kevin powles Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Have a look here http://www.barrycontrols.com/products/product.cfm?cid=5&fid=31 It might help Hi, I will check it out, another question is the colour of the dash, I have seen them painted in black, but this Centaur one had white/cream painted on the back, any advice would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I painted mine white as that was the original colour I found under the silver paint but dave Arnold told me black was correct, like most things I think they varied so if you found white paint then paint it white. rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin powles Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 I have restored a Centaur dash i borrowed and made some replica ones, I am looking for the correct fuel gauge for my dash like the one pictured and a Smiths temperature gauge in degrees F (250 highest reading), if anyone can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I have a temperature gauge, NOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Looking good Kevin. My dash has been redone and it is in black, and I will leave it in black, like my Humber instead of painting it white, so it will be a little different than Ricks and yours, unless he already painted it.. I will add some pictures of mine here, have to download them from the iPhone. Lance Adrian, don't forget to send me a list of the bits and prices, so I can send you some bosh before Rick comes to see you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Git Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Looking fantastic Kevin You must taken more pics than this mate? Please post them up, I'm in need of a Cromwell fix mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 kev i've got a spare fuel gauge you can have. rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Kevin, got around to downloading my pics. I am going to leave mine black, my HSC was is black and I want it to be a little different than all the other ones out there. Just have to put my gauges in too, with the correct length of wire and coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin powles Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 Lance, Thanks for posting the pictures, I will now hi - lite the wording around the dash dimmer switch (which I ALSO NEED FOR MINE). I managed to pick up the correct oil pressure gauge today. kevin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 NP, Rick has my dash if you need to borrow it too, I think Adrian has some dashes along with Ian, they might have the correct dash dimmer switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I managed to pick up the correct oil pressure gauge today. kevin. With the 20' tube and diaphragm banjo fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin powles Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 With the 20' tube and diaphragm banjo fitting? No just the gauge, thread fitting on the back so can make the tube and fitting to suit. Old Git, You asked for some photos, here is a few from today, 2 pins out in 4 hours, believe me that's good going, also a picture of the Molasses pit of Doom!, much easier in 1/35th scale. kevin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 rather you than me mate ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Git Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Lovely mate, absolutely lovely! Keep em coming Kevin. Have you rebuilt those final drives yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin powles Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hi, No not rebuilt as yet but I now have all the parts to do the job, only have another pic from the pond of certain death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 No just the gauge, thread fitting on the back so can make the tube and fitting to suit.kevin. Ok, that's not the right gauge then! Originally, it used a diaphragm sender with a sealed tube to the gauge. This avoids having engine oil under pressure routing through to the panel with the potential for leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Adrian, do you have the parts number etc. for this gauge, it might be the correct one that I need for the HSC too. I will have to check with Rick to see if I have the gauge, I think it is still in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Lance, the gauges are not the same. Cromwell is an 87PG/240 where the tube is 240" long Humber Scout is a 97PG/192 where the tube is.......192" long. The 87PG gauge is 0-160 PSI and the 97PG is 0-100 PSI but some illustrations show both and frankly, either would work fine. Out of interest, Centurion ARV uses a 87PG/312 and is a potential source. Obviously, the longer tube will work in all installations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin powles Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Adrian, thanks for the info, I have an original oil pressure gauge on loan which we took out of a Centaur dozer 1943. Will post some pics, it's 0 to 100 P.s.i.g, I can make a sealed sender unit and adapt to operate like an original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Lance, the gauges are not the same. Cromwell is an 87PG/240 where the tube is 240" long Humber Scout is a 97PG/192 where the tube is.......192" long. The 87PG gauge is 0-160 PSI and the 97PG is 0-100 PSI but some illustrations show both and frankly, either would work fine. Out of interest, Centurion ARV uses a 87PG/312 and is a potential source. Obviously, the longer tube will work in all installations. Adrian, thanks, I was just wondering, when they did my oil pressure gauge it was leaking some by the gauge itself, but I think it was from a loose fitting, I don't think there is a problem anymore. When I had my gauges rebuilt, I had them put on new lengths of cable/tubing etc. so if Kevin just has the gauge, I am sure Kevin/or a rebuilder can do the correct length. I will check with Rick, supposedly my other 2 gauges are there, but might just need to be rebuilt and tidied up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 lance the original eng temp and oil pressure are still in the tank but have not been looked at but will be before it goes to war and peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Git Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hi, I will check it out, another question is the colour of the dash, I have seen them painted in black, but this Centaur one had white/cream painted on the back, any advice would be helpful. Interesting to note that the original cut-away drawings for the Cromwell I which are in the Service Instruction Manual (and are in colour) show them to have a silver interior with a black control panel. Just wondering what the Service Instruction Manual for the Centaur shows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Well some have seen the movement of the Centaur from Kevin's location, the project is now mine and it will go with the other Centaur Dozer that I have, (she is continuing the restoration at this time at track and wheel http://trackandwheel.co.uk/, and will be upgraded to a Cromwell MK IV (meteor) I will just add info and updates here instead of doing a new post, fingers crossed on a few more Centaur/Cromwell/Cavalier projects to add 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lssah2025 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 More pics on the FB group Tank, Cruiser, Centaur A27L, Cromwell A27M Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin powles Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Good Luck with the project and would really like to drive it when finished. I noticed also the rear final drive castings are dated 1943 when it was being lifted, it's also got a double skin fighting compartment floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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