ruxy

At some stage the demand for DERV and petrol will drop, the distance between pumps will increase.   I can't see much scope for diesel engine fumigation , for petrol engines - I think the propane conversion kit quality will improve , and that will be the way for a while.   By then Parliament will ban diesel tractors , then plant , diesel & gas fork list trucks.   No doubt CalMac will be showing the way with their new ferries  LoL

Essentially  -  think of the  5% promise for  leaded 4 star , also LRP fiasco and you will not be far away.   For the masses , it will be a leased battery electric car for those who can afford a second mortgage, the rest will be public transport or pedal pushing..

The batteries (size of football pitch) being built now for wind turbines has sealed it, they just need the charging facilities (faster) that will not be so easy unless they make a quantum with the batteries.  I did not expect the huge storage batteries now fact, so all else is not impossible soon. Very soon,,

29 minutes ago, radiomike7 said:

Also check out MRC2458 and DA2130

Sorry - not what he requires.

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This is a bit complex.    Even the Solihull Supplementary Parts lists have it wrong.   He wants a door hinge mounted Wingard metal head for a Wingard boomerang arm.  The metal head has the securing clip correct dia. for the arm dia.  This is the larger dia. arm  (approx.  5/8" dia) ,  it originated from the Wingard "commercial vehicle range" ,   I used to order them from a factor.

In the years the metal head was factory fitted , spares were UNIPART numbered to Franchise dealers. However ISTR  Unipart may not have supplied loose heads and this was from time of introduction mid 1982 to end of S3 production.

Mirrors were a total  PITA  ,   the early Lightweight wing Wingard boomerang was a special long length supplied only to Solihull.   I have them new in Unipart boxes and probable LRP&E boxed.  I used to also fit door hinge mounted using kits , the mirror matched the mirror head on wing and was oblong plastic MRC 55  , the arms are smaller dia. approx. 1/2" .   I don't think Solihull ever fitted these civvy Optional Parts Cat. kits to the door hinges  (the bracket plate was pressed).  The factory went straight to the thick plate hinge bracket (to prevent vibration with a  5" x 7"  commercial head and heavy duty commercial arm) . 

Door mounted mirrors were such a mess , I haven't explained all - no wonder the Army fitted Defender ones,  the last months/years of Lightweight production may have had them fitted too.#

I think you mean  MRC 8276

I have just had a look through a book  -   Military LAND ROVER  : Development and in Service.  by Pat Ware ,  dated 2007.     Study of photographs shows more unusual antenna etc.

Pages  156-161  ,  The Laird (Anglesey)  Ltd.  Centaur  (half-track)  Land Rover,  there is a photograph of a hardtop  "communications vehicle"  (obviously stretched) , one wingbox antenna  & two roof mounted.  The rear one seems to be this type of mount.  I think this may have been a vehicle exported to Oman, the book does not state such - just reading between the lines.

Centaur was - based on 1978/79   "Stage One"   V8 ,  the British Army was involved but did not buy into the Centaur concept , by 1985 the project was dropped..  Total production only 7 or 8 vehicles , the last was based on Defender 110.

The fact of a blanking plate on other wing , sort of indicates to me that a pair were fitted originally ,  that would be a serious bit of radio kit on receiving /transmit ends.    I have assumed all base antenna/ aerial rubber mounts were manufactured by RACAL  (I have a pair of No.31 Mk. 2 new & c/w BALUN still in RACAL box).   Plessey must have had their own test vehicles - possibly they didn't wish to use any equipment made by commercial opposition  ?.  

37 minutes ago, 64EK26 said:

The antenna base is not a clansman pineapple, however it is similar in design, the clansman one has 4 short fins an two long fins on each side. The base looks like an experimental one and the PV may stand for Private Venture, like “ruxy” I have never seen one like the one you have. It is also attached to a pair of civillian series wings (indicators on series military land rovers are vertically alligned), which suggest that the previous owner bolted it on for show of for experimentation.

Cheers

Richard

Thanks , I am aware you are better informed with radio matters than I.

Civvy S2A wings - yes.   However before Tr-Service vehicles, I am aware the RN & RAF did obtain Army FFR's  & gave them another reg. mark.  Also the RN did obtain true civvy models (often diesel) as did the RAF (on odd special occasions). My understanding is diesels used near weapons stores and radar ,  inc. USAF bases nominally under RAF .  Due to the tidy blanking plate , I am thinking service vehicle, I know RACAL  (radio manufacture)  had  6 qty Wolf 90 for testing Clansman , so don't see why they did not have S2A & S3 earlier.

There is a  odd photograph around the internet possibly borrowed off the front of a book about the RAF police (also has a Bedford 3/4 ton) ,  unfortunately - it seems they cut a hole in the roof of the hood (centre of hoop at seat squab position) for their radio antenna ,   actually I have two Westminster (both marked Yeovilton RNAS).

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winchman  -  check the base against  :-

5"  O.D.

Holes on a  4.3/8"  PCD

Holes will be clearance for 6mm bolt clearance (Clansman)   or  1/4" bolt clearance for Larkspur.   I am quite certain it is Clansman era  (introduction starting approx.  1978).

Hi.     It is a  'pineapple'  - in fact I would say defo. a alternative to a 'base antenna mount'   , however not like any I have known.   I would say designed with reason, the holes and PCD  (I will post up dims. later) are to match those on top of a Larkspur  ATU wingbox, Clansman TUAAM wingbox or  'candlestick'  (the pole thing used as a antenna mount on rear tub of Land Rovers , and in fact the sliders of a Lightweight "Unitary kit".   The whip spring shock-absorber is similar to a accessory used in conj. with base antenna mounts.    Of the several different manufacturers of radio equipment , they used similar terms but perhaps not always to same time-tine.   I was recently amused to see on the rubber parts of 'base antenna mounts' (they went through several  versions of Mk.)  - I was not doing a 'time-line'- but determined the change from ' base AERIAL mount' to  'base ANTENNA mount'  .  IMHO this was a major strengthening to the mounting ring flange and was in the early stage of Clansman equipment.

Strange as it may seem, and I need to guestimate here (1980 to 1990/95)   I was a regular visitor to the extensive works of Plessey at Hebburn.  I don't recall any military equipment.   3 or 4  regiments of Plessey ,   1.  manufacture of long insulators as used on National Grid pylons.  2.   The larger works (I was not in all area)  ISTR sheel metal for cabinets - probably for Telecoms. equipment.  3.  I remember a small factory - remember the type of machinery , don't remember products.  4.  A larger factory that was for semi-conductor products , early computer that probably included 'engine management'  ,  I well remember picking up a (best described as - proper etched Vero board) ,  I asked - what are these  (I had seen similar huge computer boards at another firms factories at Cramlington & near Edinburgh)   ,   the reply was they are for the dash on cars "we do many makes"  inc. VW and Mercedes.   I then asked was the Mercedes a better quality - the reply was they used gold for connections on a Mercedes board but silver for all other car makers.  Being a mind of useless info. - I remember that very well  !

I am not a MarconiSahib  ,   it is obviously very military ,  I suspect it may have been used with a PYE  Westminster or similar era set  ??    called something  'Storno'   ISTR    If so - then I would be interested in purchase (I have a non-function PYE).    IIRC  normally local airfield communications , well at least the set I have has a Dyno tape RN Air Service base on..

BGS   ,  have a look here , early days of Blog tell of another in a museum.   Unfortunately  TrueS2  died last year and the project was not far off completion. 

TrueS2 always went the extra distance for quality of his projects.

https://forum.emlra.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=11408&p=110505#p110055

Regardless of statements in House of Parliament  ,  IMHO  probably the greatest 4x4  of all time.

2 hours ago, Surveyor said:

I know of one locally thanks for the suggestion

Richard

Leece-Neville  (Prestolite)  are the specialist in that sort of size.

Find a local auto electrician - I suspect it is a standard frame , of-the-shelf  Prestolite used on a bus or lorry. 

Some used to claim the coal originated from outcropping coal seams on the sea-bed.    I don't recall observing coal being raked up from beaches around Hartlepool / Redcar after abt. late 1980's  -  so I suppose it came from colliery waste.

On 1/7/2020 at 3:30 PM, Malcolm R said:

I know this thread is old and I don't know if anyone will be notified in this but I noticed that a few people here seem to like FFR Land Rovers. I have recently got one in quite bad condition (new half chassis, doors, rear side panels etc.). Someone has already done some work on it including bad welding and a bad paint job. I was thinking about converting it to 12V because I don't have any particular inspiration to take it back to its military heritage. I am going to use it as a daily when it is fixed up and I'm not bothered about originality (fitting more comfortable seats and belts). Just wanted other people's thoughts on this because I do appreciate the military heritage. Also if I do convert it would anyone be interested in the 24V parts and toast rack grill... . Please bare in mind it would be a good few months/ years before I got round to ripping them out. It needs a full tear down anyway. Thanks for any response.

Limited market for  'Toastie' era   ,   if the main machines (starter motor & genny) are serviceable , you may wish to retain 24 volt (2 x 12 volt) batteries  , dispose of the 24 volt genny  loom etc. etc. for simplicity  (24 volt starter motors are OK) , you could fit a cheap used 12 volt alternator at normal nearside location and a second additional 12 volt alternator on a high level bracket above.   Lots of options ,  keep the CAV  DZ dizzy but remove the anaconda flex shielded wires  and silicone cement 12 volt std. civvy HT wire set to the cap to enable cheap 12 volt spark plugs to be used.  A swop of a 25D or 45D Lucas dizzy (or Chinese contact set/electronic copy 45D)  - is not quite so simple.   At least the DZ is quality and all centrifugal advance so you don't need a vacuum pipe from carburettor.  Dispose of the Ign coil and filter for standard 12 volt Ign.  coil.    You can for simplicity and at no £ cost  maintain all 24 volt services as/is  -  inc. the main bulkhead harness.   It is not just a matter of swopping out 24 volt bulbs.   To go direction of a 12 volt civvy. spec. harness  from AutoSparks  along with all normal civvy spec. 12 volt stuff   - that would be totally top $ to do the best of jobs ,  seems the base vehicle value does not warrant such investment.

Several ways to go about this conversion, main objective normally is to get away from the normal 24v genny on to what is better understood , along with cheap £  common spark plugs.

1978  -  I watched colliery waste being dozered into the sea at  NCB Dawdon , Seaham  -  that must have kept the  'sea-coal traders'  busy at Hartlepool.  I suppose your photograph was taken near Blyth ?    ,  so did the washed black gold return on the next high tide to Blyth  ?    

On 1/6/2010 at 12:44 PM, Spood said:

One more for now, one of the original rail carriages used for transporting ordanance. I've got a couple more I'll put up if anyone is interested.

Trying to find a few things out from my mum as she worked there for a while in the war packing stuff, stencilling crates and taking full trollies to the railway pick up point, but her memory is a bit hazy now she is getting on in years. I will persevere though and hopefully come up with a bit of interesting stuff.

 

QUOTE.   

Has anybody a recent page out of "Glass's Guide" for the AEC Matador ,,

2 hours ago, johnwardle said:

These lamps are still in use as part of the CES for Cvrt, they are not listed on the CES for Defender or Wolf. They do sell for ridiculous money on eBay, don't know why as they aren't particularly rare.

The colour is correct and the 'lens is actually a shade to keep the light out of you eyes when using it.

A friend of mine who has a militarization shop has quite a few of these lights, but the plugs had all been cut off, apparently the plugs are very sought after by certain classic car owners.

I do have some new plugs available if anyone is interested.

Good  info.  to know -  ref.  CES   -  I have often wondered , knew they were in MOD type packaging -  I had pondered that they were intended for Civil Defence.    A bit like the filters for IR switched  FV headlamp units ,  never seen them go  £ cheap -  possibly there are  Nissen huts on some isolated camp under care & maintenance  -  filled to the gunnels with them ?  , then someday they will be dumped on the market.

The two-pin plugs did go scarce and copy ones are shoddy fitting.   You can get  ;genuine;  new Lucas ones now  - the type with knurled nuts for securing the wires (probably manufactured by TVS-Lucas in India).   ISTR these lamps could be had with same size two-pin but connections covered - similar to domestic 240 volt round pin.    I would rather hide a quality waterproofed fitting  ,  such as used in boat cockpit / ski-boat.   The original red/black sockets are only good for period decoration.  Land Rover bulkheads etc. not noted as good for preventing ingress of water  LoL

Defender / Tithonus may be different ,  up to Series 3 the inspection lamp line Ex-Works did not have fuse protection.

They may be CES kit listed  ?

Sales pushed with the two words Land Rover ,  however I have never seen them listed as 'Optional Equipment' in Civilian catalogues.  Can't say I have seen any specific mention in S3  Military User Instructions , would have to check S2A.

They were  Lucas & probably made over a 20 year period ,  IIRC some BIG cars were supplied new with them.

The 'inspection lamp sockets' are "historic"  ,  

For punctures in the dark etc.  You need such as a  COAST  rechargeable LED Head-Torch  High 270 Lumens / Low 85 Lumens    £20 would be very £ expensive.     My son 2 was using one for mountain biking in the dark , then  - it seems much more powerful  & two X'mas ago he got me one  (imported from China) .  The elastic strap just says  HEAD LAMP Can't find the box / instructions just now  - I give to son to re-charge , it is USB port re-charching and with Lithium battery(s)..

The better Inspection Lamps & Head Lamps now are  COB  (chip on board) ,  Son 2 says to me  - There are Lumens and Chinese Lumens  !

Interior map lamp   &  trailing lead / tent lamp  - since late 1970's - I have made my own using projector lamp bulbs that were originally intended for Carl Schenck balancing machines.     I have  the proper Defender  Hella   'military' map lamps , been intending to look into converting to LED.

They have been on eBay for years , seen them on stalls at MV shows , yes same colour but often with rust spots bursting through.  The card boxes they come in often show signs of damp storage.  They used to be very common - £ has been climbing these last few years..   The dash panel sockets - the asbestos card insulator strip , I have had them crumble to dust in my fingers , make certain there is a in-line fuse  !    I think I would just use No.1 Primer as finish colour is about right.

Looks to me as if somebody has done a blast with soft media , then used a rattle-can of Hammerite NO. 1 Primer  (pink) ,,   has that cable grommet not been sprayed, photograph not great but cable seems begrimed with paint at odd spots.  the lens looks a bit sus. with overspray but you would think it would have been removed , was it prior smeared with grease  ?

Possibly it would help ,  find the chassis No.  better still the MOD  -  VRM  if still plated ,  I think you will then be able to make some  'initial'  RLC  on-line searches £ free yourself.  Or contact the RLC Museum , they may be able to turn out more than the Ruddington disposal date for catalogue.   There is the odd specialist searcher who can do much / all of the above + additional.  for a £ near to RLC search.

1 hour ago, Old Bill said:

Hi Ed.

That's right. There are two steel bands involved. One is part of the wheel and is shrunk on as a plain band, holding the wheel together. On a horse drawn vehicle, this would also be the tyre and in contact with the road. Solid tyres were made by first attaching a layer of bakelite (or it may have been ebonite. Someone correct me here!) around 1/4" thick to a steel band and then vulcanizing the rubber to that under pressure and heat. The tyre is held on by an interference fit between the two steel bands.

We cut the old tyre bands off because, as you say, we have some complete tyres in stock and these bands were very corroded and not good enough for re-use anyway.

Steve  

I don't think Bakelite or Ebonite would be a suitable material for the application.  I think it may be the hard form of Gutta Percha , I think it would be most suitable for vulcanization to natural rubber, to early for ersatz Buna. Apparently bricks of virgin Gutta Percha are still being washed up from a shipwreck off the South West ISTR.

This is just a little complex , due to types of mix available

The proper finish now is what is known as  CARC  ,  the previous IRR finish is no longer available.

The paint of near correct colour is readily available , in differing quality - you don't need the CARC or IRR contents.

You need  -   British Standard BS381 285 - NATO green