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Surprisingly it is from a Mk 2. I looked at my Hornet pictures & for my old Pig & they are both the bakelite ones which seem to be far more common. The odd thing about that picture is that the hole beneath is for the new position of the turn switch. That the allows the knob to be mounted upside-down because soldiers didn't understand the top part of the original pointer knob had a point indicating the turn direction. The original upper hole should have been blanked over, but seems not to have been done & I assume when someone perhaps replaced the switch they chose to mount it in the upper hole as they still had the original pointer knob. As you know the ISPL gives the lever as LV6/MT3/LU/316622. That I believe is the original metal pointer knob for your particular switch. I say that because the Hornet, which I know has the larger bakelite knob, is listed as LV6/MT4/LU/54336366.

TL6 & TL7 I think are part of the Lucas designation for a particular WD fitting FV157965 = L-WD-TL6 FV157966 = L-WD-TL7 TL6 seems not have been NATO codified & has VAOS as LV6/MT3/LU/56007A TL7 was codified as 6210-99-803-2084 but also appears as LV6/MT3/WDTL7 the Lucas no. is 540313. This I would have thought would retro construct in VAOS as LV6/MT3/LU/540313. Incidentally the only other country to use TL7 was Denmark.

This will be enough excitement for one night.

fv157965 = tl6 fv157966 = tl7 Yes last edited & edited again! I'm try to type "FV" upper case & "TL" upper case & it keeps converting them to lower case. Grrh!

I see your transfer box was originally intend for winch use. But the PTO output will be no doubt be clamped off.

Wayne your Pig interior light is FV157965, what is the FV No. of the two open types?

I think its just a thin metal disc that is peened over. I have several scrap cases one can be reclaimed from. Hmm not the normal arrangement, should just be a brass plug. Looks a rather peculiar projection. Think it needs your degreasing skills to reveal its origins or purpose.

NSC was changed to make it 5999-99-637-0880 Retainer, lead, electric made by Airtech

Joris there is some coverage of these on page 13 on of http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/IGNITIONMATTERS.pdf Including x-rays of these devices revealing the inner secrets of two head to head self tapping screws & how to make your own using an old button!

I've taken a couple of Pigs there over the years.

With possibly a Shelters, Portable, No.12, JA5905 draped over the top. .

Actually that is the correct item according to the ISPL. The EMER describes it as having a hexagonal spindle. Although I have seen chunky bakelite knobs the EMER shows a metal pointy one. The more I think about it there should be a chrome plated small metal knob like the black one but spring loaded in the shaft. What is misleading is that mine has the metal knob but centrally secured. But it clearly is not waterproof & is of a bulkier construction. This of course figures as mine is from 1956 not a modern 1959 model :-D. This would explain why I have several hexagonally shafted switches like yours as spares for no obvious purpose other than fitting the other Pig that I no longer have.:nut: Of course it can't be confused with the GS as that had no turnlights at all!

Looks to be Shelters, Portable, No.18, JA8119

Brucie good to hear that they didn't cause you much in the way of problems. I love Humbers & at one stage I had 4 of various sorts. There are several others on here with similar tendencies, so always keen to pick up any snippets of history or problems about them. What era & theatre did you work on them? Don't suppose you have any pictures of some of the lads beside a Humber?

Wayne I expect I can find a pointy knob for the switch. I know you want to fit the proper metal one, may even have a sawn off knob from a Mk 2 that accommodates the hexy shaft. At least it will be a step up from the toggle switch thing. Did the turn lights work or any other illuminations? Good that it turns over. Have to a carb refurb practice tomorrow in anticipation.

Madness?? That's a Mk 1 tyre that was permissible on a Mk 2 as long as it was not mixed with another type on the same axle. It is stronger than the original Mk 1 tyre marked RF HS. Some nice little extras there! You've got an airline for the compressor

Not a problem for me Lee. I had been meaning to change it for a while as mine was rather simplistic. At first I panicked as I thought it was a scam/hijack & wondered why I had been singled out. But relieved to find the announcement. Can the password include things like @?&£%!$ etc? I couldn't tell if it would accept them because as you type it in it just displays large dots for the characters?

Greetings Brucie, in your REME time did you have much to do with the Humber 1 Ton?

Simon I didn't realise where you were, might be asking fellow Champ owners over there what paint resources they have found. Might be worth asking you fellow countrymen as there are a number of Champ owners in the postwar section of http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/ But be wary of buying paint from domestic outlets as they tend to be water colour paints these days.

Simon there is no doubting a good spray job can look better than when painted by hand. But DBG was available in "brushing" & "spraying" so hand painting would be perfectly authentic. No doubt spraying Sky Blue 101 of engines was carried out, but "heat resisting" Sky Blue was only available in "brushing". So I would say you should get away with brushing & feel comfortable about it :-D When I say "available" I mean it was listed as a demandable item from Stores listed in VAOS (Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores) Section H1 (a)

When I removed the excess armour from my Pig. I found that on one side the welding was quite good but on the other side it could be removed without too much difficulty. This suggests that during Op Bracelet a different team worked on each side of the vehicle. It was reported that the up-armouring process was carried out by people other than trained fitters who were keen to protect our boys from the RPGs then being used against their vehicles. Some 80 people carried out this work which included welders signed on from the labour exchange, clerical staff, a telecomms technician & a medical orderly. Some of the work being done during the 3-day week. Each vehicle kit comprised 818 components. One can see perhaps several decades on how some of these bits could be at risk of falling off.

Well you two are on the ball. I suppose one has to define what one means by a Mk 2. A real Mk 2 or what the Army erroneously called a Mk 2. Merlin & what don't you like like about Pigs?

So was it a Mk 2?

Iain thank you, I've got most of those either in fiche or paper. That list that isn't especially easy to follow, in terms of EMER structure, but I do have several editions of EMER TELS A 000 Index & A 001 Detailed Index that make it easier to follow. The problem is with me not knowing my way around the various items & their significance, as I'm not too interested in HF or VHF. Going back to the list I didn't spot any EMER COMMS INSTALLATIONS. Some of the EMERs quoted are not qualified by subject I know it is predominantly EMER TELS, but could perhaps easily have been some that could fall into EMER COMMS INSTALLATIONS, EMER TEST & MEASUREMENT.

There is a Mk 2 down that way being resurrected by Eddie who has mainly fire appliances.