Jack Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Just wanted to let you know that I called around 4-5 paint suppliers last week with not much luck. In this morning post there were 8 paint samples, painted on little sheets of tin. This was sent to me by Kerry at RR Services http://www.rrservices.co.uk/index2.html . I just wanted to say a big thank you to those guys as the service was most excellent and no prizes for guessing who I will be buying the paint from. Service is king when it comes to business and unfortunately it is something that the majority of UK business's lack so it is refreshing to come across a company that cares! Anyway my next problem, is what colour to choose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 ........................................................................................................Anyway my next problem, is what colour to choose! No Jack, thats THE SAME PROBLEM.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Made up my mind! It is going to be green :mrgreen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Ah, but what shade of green, Jack :?: :?: :?: :lol: Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Andy, He's deliberated for weeks on GREEN, don't confuse him with yet more options, or it'll never get done. Karoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Karoshi, well,....to confuse, even more,-Jack, stay awake, now............ Counter- Shading Priniples. 1)Top Surfaces darkened. 2)Darkening extended over edges to conceal the shape of these surfaces. 3)Shadow of truck on ground is extended up to the lower edges of the vehicle to break these edges and distort the shadow. 4)Unless catching the sun, windows stand out as black shapes which need to be broken up by the application of dark paint round the edges. As an aside, the glass area's were(still are??) a real problem, so differing idea's were tried. The germans tried tape, the americans tried a film of oil,- which attracted the dirt/dust etc, and they both employed the folding down of windscreens. Mind you, if you are going the british marking's way, what about the Mickey Mouse Ear pattern ???????? Just a few idea's, for you to mull over. I can't take the credit for the counter shading info, came from a book, D-Day to Berlin, by Terence Wise. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 At risk of sticking my neck out a bit. Terence Wise has, well....been wrong before. Jack just go with the FULL MATT finish and let it take on its own patina. It'll counter shade itself given time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest matt Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Jack just go with the FULL MATT finish and let it take on its own patina. I'll counter shade itself given time. I agree with Colin,full matt finish.I personnally wouldn't go with the Mickey Mouse pattern on a GMC,might look rather strange.... :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Ah, but what shade of green, Jack :?: :?: :?: :lol: Andy Oh, that is a point.............. now I start all over again :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Grosvenor Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Jack, you could spend months reaching what colour to use. You could even get an exact sample from GMC (if that was possible), what ever colour you paint it, at the first show you take to it, some know-it-all will tell you it's the "wrong colour". Just paint it a colour you like, it's your vehicle after all :lol: Personally, I like a SATIN/EGG SHELL finish on a preserved MV. My little Ferret is still in MATT Gulf War colour and it is hard to keep clean, the dirt seems to get into the paint. I don't know what others think of a GLOSS finish on MV's, I think it tends to look over the top. I think in service MV's would have been painted it whatever was available. Regards Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 2, 2005 Author Share Posted October 2, 2005 I now hate any colour green, it is keeping me a wake at night :oops: :cry: :twisted: :roll: So operation rub down is looking good, gone down to bear metal in most places.... Do I have to put primer on first? How long do I have to leave it before applying the top cost? Can I use the top coat as the case coat? How long does the top coat take to dry? Does he 'G' in GMC stand for Green? :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Do I have to put primer on first? Yes How long do I have to leave it before applying the top cost? Until the base coat is dry Can I use the top coat as the case coat? No How long does the top coat take to dry? It will be dry when it's no longer wet Does he 'G' in GMC stand for Green? No, it stands for I GIVE up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 oddball, that reply made me spill my tea,...............laugh, with tea in my lap, I DID wet myself.............. Nice one. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 So operation rub down is looking good, gone down to bear metal in most places.... Do I have to put primer on first? Jack, As a full time restorer of military vehicles, I prime bare metal with red oxide, a couple of coats if neccessary and use a gloss green as a barrier coat, usually Deep Bronze Green (Land Rover green, available at tractor dealers for good price). You will find if you use red oxide and then finish with matt olive drab that moisture will get through the paint and rust spots can appear. When gloss is dry, flat off with scotchbrite pad or similar and apply your chosen colour. My choice for practical reasons of keeping the vehicle looking tidy is semi matt. It has a slight sheen that goes off after time, but paint is more durable and if oil or grease gets on it, it can be cleaned off without marking the paint. Something that is not possible with dead flat matt. My thoughts on the subject ....... Kewelde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Thanks for those kind words Andy, nice to know someone appreciates me Talking of tea, it's time I had another one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 2, 2005 Author Share Posted October 2, 2005 Cheers Kewelde. It has a base coat red oxide and on others parts there is grey undercoat. I have seen red oxide on most farm machinery so why do we use red oxide as a base coat? Also, is a wire brush finish good enough to paint i.e. the wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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