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Stone

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Having a poke around on Wikipedia the other day I noticed that many of the Soviet tracked vehicles fielded by Bulgaria may use rubber track pads, unlike (apparently) every other user...

 

Examples:

 

BMP1:

Bulgarian_bmp-1.jpg

 

2S1:

Bulgarian_2S1_Gvozdika.jpg

 

MTLB:

Bulgarian_mt-lb.jpg

 

T-72:

T-72M2.jpg

 

Israeli T72 for comparison:

800px-T-72-latrun-1.jpg

 

Does anybody know if they make these padded tracks themselves for internal use, or were they widely available but not used? It obviously makes way more sense for parading if you can spare the manpower to change the tracks over (they seem to use normal flat links when deployed) but it'd make them a lot more desirable over here if you could ease your passage through DVLA :cool2:

 

Stone

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Problem is the same I had when having pads fitted to the OT's tracks - the pads bolt on and to fit them to the "normal" steel tracks requires holes to be plasma cut fairly accurately for the securing bolts.

Id you were buying a Bulgarian piece of kit then not a problem but for converting a vehicles of similar type from any other country look to be paying around £9,000 for that work to be done as the track has to be removed, broken down to individual links, holes cut, pads obtained and bolted into place and then the whole lot reassembled and refitted!!

Pads on mine come from the latest BMP variant.........

 

Oh yes - and you will never get an easy ride - or a ride of any sort through DVLA currently as 99% of Warsaw Pact armour is over-width!!

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Looking at the photos of the t72 the tracks have a distinctly German look -ie Leopard 1 style, although difficult to judge on one photo the end connectors look different in size and spacing from the normal T72 track (which would mean a revised sprocket). The Mt-lb additionally seems to have revised wheels although they may be the heavy duty type theat appeared on the repair/recovery version.

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Problem is the same I had when having pads fitted to the OT's tracks - the pads bolt on and to fit them to the "normal" steel tracks requires holes to be plasma cut fairly accurately for the securing bolts.

Id you were buying a Bulgarian piece of kit then not a problem but for converting a vehicles of similar type from any other country look to be paying around £9,000 for that work to be done as the track has to be removed, broken down to individual links, holes cut, pads obtained and bolted into place and then the whole lot reassembled and refitted!!

That was part of the masterplan - you'd hope a pair of tracks + shipping would come in less than that! It's obviously way easier to fit a new pair of tracks than to disassemble and modify them link by link. Plus you get left with a set of offroad tracks for when it's snowing :cool2:

 

Not sure if the pads are separate or bonded to the links but wasn't someone on here investigating having rubber-metal bonded items restored? Putting the 'tyres' back on roadwheels rings bells for some reason.

 

Stone

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schliesser92

Must be a purely Bulgarian thing. The BMPs taken over from the east German NVA didn't have rubber pads, and when some were upgraded , they couldn't be registered to travel on German roads (because of the lack of pads), and were subsequently disposed of.

 

 

My post was specific to the T72

 

steveo578

Looking at the photos of the t72 the tracks have a distinctly German look -ie Leopard 1 style

 

 

The tracks shown are almost certainly from the Croatian M95 Degman, the tracks of which were developed by Diehl GmbH & Co.

 

Steve

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