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From the latest FBHVC UPDATES..

Continuous Insurance Enforcement

Uninsured vehicles will be identified by comparing the Motor Insurance Database with DVLA’s Vehicle Database. Where a vehicle is taxed, but apparently uninsured, the MIB will issue an ‘Insurance Advisory Letter’ to the registered keeper advising them of the actions they need to take:

· If not insured, insure immediately;

· If they believe they are insured, contact their insurance provider immediately to check that the Motor Insurance Database has been updated with the correct information;

· Make a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) to DVLA so that the vehicle is not included in CIE;

· If they no longer have the vehicle, notify DVLA in writing.

If the keeper fails to undertake one of the above actions and the vehicle remains taxed but not insured, then DVLA will issue the registered keeper with a £100 Fixed Penalty Notice (reduced to £50 if paid within 21 days). Failure to pay the penalty and insure the vehicle could result in court prosecution with a fine of up to £1,000, and the vehicle being wheel-clamped or impounded if found on the public road.

CIE does not replace the laws of driving whilst uninsured; that will continue to be enforced by the police.

This new motor insurance law only applies to England, Scotland and Wales (vehicles registered in Northern Ireland, Channel Islands and Isle of Man are excluded from this law as they have their own registration authorities).

For more information on CIE, please visit http://www.direct.gov.uk/stayinsured

When is CIE being introduced?

The exact date cannot yet be given, but will be in early 2011. Announcements will be made in the press before CIE becomes law.

Historic Vehicle Owners

For historic vehicle owners there are a number of important things to remember.

· SORN – if a SORN is made and the tax disc surrendered because the vehicle is not in use, then the vehicle will not be subject to CIE;

· Pre-SORN vehicles - vehicles which have been kept off-road before SORN came into force on 1 February 1998 are exempt from CIE unless they are brought back into use, in which case they would need to be insured or a SORN made;

· Vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1973 – though the vehicle may have a ‘nil value’ tax disc, it is classed as being ‘taxed’ and a SORN should be made if uninsured and not in use;

· Ask MID - if you want to check your vehicle is recorded as ‘insured’ on the Motor Insurance Database, visit the free service at http://www.askMID.com.

The author has kindly allowed us to print his email address if anyone has any enquiries: ian.davies2@dvla.gsi.gov.uk

I have been embezzeled out of £80..

Herein lies some of the traps,,

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0496.htm

Advice you can trust, when you need it - £1.53 per / min.

http://dvlaguide.co.uk/index.php/dvlaguide/how_to_make_a_sorn/

Another to$$er money making scam - can you trust what they say - NO !!

Record the answer - do you have evidence that would be accepted by a Court of Law - NO !!

Note the small print at the top - Advice provided is available free of charge from DVLA

and the large print in blue - UNOFFICIAL GUIDE TO THE DVLA

A letter by recorded would be an investment in comparison to this lot..

I am anticipating some fun, as I understand. Possibly they could say it should have been SORNed years ago and send me a back-log of fines !!

I don't wish to be in this situation - that is why I intend sending a lengthy correspondence to them by recorded delivery. The letter of reply will be retained with the existing reply (email) as documentary evidence should the issue go to court..

I have read on forums that the DVLA do not accept their own emails as documentary evidence in these matters ?

Things may have changed , possibly.. Several years ago I was reliably informed that a FAX transmital could be used as evidence in court of a legal transmital of a document BUT e'mail with / without attachments could not as it does not have the same quality of evidence.. This I can understand - I don't have FAX facility - so it will have to be a letter sent by recorded..

No / No

This is the only laid up vehicle I have that is not SORN , it is the one I was told by the authorities that it does not need SORN. However - if Grumpy is in fact correct - then it does need SORN.

It would be appreciated if Grumpy could post any correspondence references ref. his case , that I could quote to them alongside my similar case and ask why the discrepancy in their reply.

This highlights what could be unresolved SORN issues , and they are experimenting soon with SORN2

QUOTE Grumpy

That’s the opposite of what I was told by Birmingham DVLA. Just to complicate things further the different answer might be because the vehicle I had purchased was on the old V5 log book not a V5C.

Its not unusual getting different answers from different offices in DVLA, in fact you can get different answers from the same office, even in writing.

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I don't doubt what you state is correct regarding differing answers , because if all the SORNing info. was written in plain English then I would understand as well as those earning their crust administering the system..

I have several vehicles on SORN , what you have stated alarms me because the reply came by email. I think I will send a letter to Swansea by recorded delivery asking for "further clarification" as I have no wish for a hefty fine in the future.

Last night - I tried to SORN this particular vehicle on-line , however the software would not permit. The fact that SORNing is being blocked indicates their answer to me was in fact correct , in the alternative their software systems are crap. The 2011 Mk.2 SORN - well , they are just going to see how it goes (as are the police)

http://www.polfed.org/roads_policing_newsletter_January2011_low_res.pdf

You cannot SORN it until the log book has been issued in your name, you have to wait until the logbook arrives then you can SORN it.

Even if it was taken off the road before SORN came in, when there is a change of keeper you have to SORN it. Same applies if you acquire a vehicle that is part way through the twelve month SORN period, when the new log book is issued the existing SORN is canceled and you have to re SORN. Just because the previous keeper signed and agreed to keep the vehicle off the road, he has no control once the vehicle has been sold on.

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Something wrong with this post :-

Quote this sentence.

Even if it was taken off the road before SORN came in, when there is a change of keeper you have to SORN it.

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You had me running for a file to check - this is a comment that keeps getting re-cycled and is wrong...

Regarding a vehicle purchased by self 1996 , that had been laid up off the road since 1984..

I queried this point with the DVLA and have correspondence from J. Punchard Customer Enquiries Group.

States.

The scheme only applies to vehicles where a tax disc expired on or after 31 January 1998. As your vehicle was untaxed on this date, it does not fall into the SORN scheme. It will only become liable to SORN if it is re-taxed and then subsequently taken off the road.

regards

And there is a moot point. During my teens (1960's) many was the time I walked through the fuselage sections on the top of Mickle Fell (often as a first hike of the year after the snow to High Cup or search for other aircraft) , like a pilgramage.

Apparently the sole survivor was the tail-gunner who managed to get to Birkdale Fm. We never did find any tail-section but the water-shed peat gullies were difficult from the Birkdale side. Apparently it was the best preserved WW2 crash site in England due to remote position.

I well remember the well burried engines and twisted prop blades , one point I can not forget is the uneven weathering to the blades - like Redwood part raised like the harder rings , between heavily eroded like sapwood.

Over the years I visited - little seemed to have changed, obviously much must have been taken shortly after the crash.

Unfortunately I did not take photographs because I never considered it would be removed, far better to visit once a year. It must have been about 1969 - I heard it was being taken, and in fact noticed a lorry with a downed light helicopter travel through Middleton-in-Teesdale that had been involved.

A year gone X'mas - I was reliably informed that these large recovered sections had been in storage somewhere at a RAF base in NW England and had in fact been scrapped ??

Lets say , Middlesbrough, Cleveland postal code TS3 6NP , is not a good area (for every reason). In fact it only exists because the Carless Capel & Leonard cracker was at the doorsteps and was fully expected to go up and take the lot with it !!

I used to go to CC&L for years and the quickest I could get the hell out the better.

At least you have to thank CC&L for the word PETROL .

Long-wave heat radiation during the night causes such as corrugated steel roofing (without bonded / uninsulated) surface temperature to drop below the ambient air temperature - this is a major problem. I don't know if this radiation can also affect a vehicle below the roof line as well ?

Once your vehicle temperature gets down to overnight ambient , it will not warm up in the morning as fast as the building structure - if the air is water laden then you are going to get condensation.

Steel , alloy, concrete,brick are cold materials and good condensers. Wood is a warm material , I line timber garages inside with cheap tanalised fencing boards , the gap with slab poly. The extra timber adds to cost but increases security , the joints allow breathing. Rather than some ventilation - I think better to seal - all the extra timber absorbes moisture until it dries out , I have come to the conclusion this is better than a single cladding.

Some people do bag their vehicles , such as made by Cocoon , my cousin has his Morgan in a Airflow bag.

The diff. filler plug - the splash of yellow paint is Solihull - done immediately after oil fill , the red will be military

2010 was a bit of a grey area for "non-compliant" automotive paints and sensible investment in new spray guns , for some paint manufacturing ceased but sales of "existing stock" remained legal , start of Jan 2011 - these sales are illegal. Unless for your canal boat or aircraft and there - low volume sales will inflate prices.. Some types of thinners will become unobtanium - time will tell about availability of "premium" gun-wash that could be handy leaving a flatter finish than that available with maximum base matting..

Possibly 2011 will see the end of this OD debate - and have to accept what colour(s) left available - who knows ??.

The clue is the NATO SC code at top of the label - and what date NATO numbers were established ..

Sound research followed by expert pontification is great stuff , modellers for years have found this more important than those into 1:1

It is a fact that military museums are lacking in the most important artifacts as sound evidence (empty or full paint cans) - how I wish I had retained a few.

I do have a few of what will be early IRR NATO Green cans , however this is my earliest and IMHO it is what was used immediately prior, the date was probably very clear until I wiped the dust off with a damp J cloth. I recon earlyish 1970's - there can't be many 40 year old mil. paint cans around..

Very good - only spoilt by the fuel external fill that is incorrect..

These beads by such as Broquet etc. etc. will in fact be a sintered metal such that it can disolve , in texture they look like a sintered bronze filter (these tank thingies do disolve but I very much doubt if they slow down valve seat regression).

A quality fuel tank , used on such as a Rolls Royce , and early Land Rover tanks (until later S3) (that had seams) - were made of a material called Terne Steel (tinned steel sheet) , so I suppose if you had a tank that was rusty internally then possibly the fuel (or a contaminent in diesel esp. home brew bio types) had disolved away the pure tin coating , I don't think I have seen a tank internal coat eroded away by petrol ..

One of the clever things about the German radar systems of beams to fly down etc. was that it was well hidden (circuit incorporated within other innocuous radio equipment) - more clever British research staff found it when they got their hands on a relatively intact aircraft..

The Germans flew up and down the East coast using airships prior to the outbreak of WW2 and failed to determine the true use of all the Chain Home masts, if they had got it correct then things would have been different.. The British were also good at getting temp. stations up & running when they were knocked out - such as at Isle of Wight..

The Germans must have been wised up by the time Hess made his approach to the coast (if he in fact was not invited).. You can read as many books about Rudolph Hess as you like but we will never know the truth..

A very complex subject , in my opinion the fact that they were both there. None of the marks were perfect or better than the other at a particular date. Even the Hawker Typhoon was found a good use despite loss of tails that was never fully resolved.. The privateer input in the early days was by people with vision and keeping a watch on Germany during the 1930's.

I found this book most enlightening during the lead up to WW2 , the radar chains were most important and just as well the Germans considered British radar to be primitive..

http://www.books-by-isbn.com/0-9531544/0953154408-RDFI-The-detection-of-aircraft-by-radio-methods-1935-1945-The-Location-of-Aircraft-by-Radar-Methods-1935-1945-0-9531544-0-8.html

It was no good wearing out aircraft and men , using fuel until you had a good fix and then effective management of the situations as they progressed.

Bader - all you can do is read all the books and make up your own mind. The pilots under the command of Keith Park were well used but you needed combat experience to survive. All very close run..

In ground role - the Unitary kit - in the early Larkspur days would have used a Onan genny set to re-charge the batteries, probably with four NATO 6TN batteries (both trays full) . In vehicle role - I understand only two 6TN carried.

The idea was to free up FFR's for GS Cargo role , however this seemed not to go to plan as there were so many FFR Lightweights to hand many were used as a 12 volt GS. However the "Unitary Kit" design does go back to the Lightweight pre-production days.

In Clansman days - I would imagine that this would be the ground role genny set..

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The point being I suppose - this complete dismountable was a "Radio Station" first be it under canvas or branches, the fact that it is associated with the Lightweight is secondary. I understand some regiments did in fact carry the Unitary Kit in a 109" - probably easier to man-handle in and out of the tub. Fully kitted - I think the upper body-sides would best be removed on a Lightweight (unless you had a helicopter to assist). And yes - I understand the Unitary Kits were moved forward by helicopters without the Lightweight.

Yes - all that was needed to secure in the tub is the floor lashing points - that the 12 volt Lightweight has , IIRC only the earler 12 volts had the additional earth body straps that the FFR had - later discontinued.

I have two FFR Lightweights still with Unitary Kits that I am starting to fit out , one may be Larkspur & the other Clansman. Something I have neglected , the "Unitary Kit" - the Lightweight Military Spare Parts Catalogue has the odd sheet at the end BUT it is mainly electrical fittings and cables. There must be a full spare parts list inc. clamping components and in particular the sliding/folding seats - ??

Most appreciated if anybody can assist with this even only if info. on document identification - so far I have been unable to determine exactly what I am looking for..

I am looking for a pair of "genuine original" sliding seat tubes for a Unitary-kit , I understand the possibility is slim as they get bent up..

In the alternative I suppose if push comes to shove a bent up one would do for identification of tubing / surface coating.

Looking at the seat tube clamps - the tubes must have a outer dia. of about 7/8" / 22mm , possibly they are just bits of Tamlex 20mm conduit - either of the hot dipped zinc or pre-galv. alternatives - then no problem - about £9 for a 3.75m length at City Electrics..

I doubt if they are pressure tube quality ?? However if a stock tube size - no problem to source the material and get it plated.

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So could somebody advise me of the lengths of the tubes , exact outer dia. & wall thickness, surface finish - cad. plated , BZP ??

Thanks in advance

However

I have two copies of the 61278 , May 1975 publication. Managed to get a copy soon after (so much for restricted) , came in very handy, the later one has a few Amd. sheets. However AFAIK such as the steering box covers (particular to the Lightweight) were never listed - I added to the bottom of page H12 :-

Steering box cover (nearside) 346256

-do- (offside) 346255

ISTR - when Brooklands did a re-print - quite a few pages were missed out ?

No problem now with steering box covers - as you have found out that Les Chrome does a excellent reproduction (as are his bulkhead hinge plates and footwell repair panels)..

Good book , I have noted the odd error.. You need to get into the way of using it due to the lack of illustrations.

There are just a few important part numbers missing...

Or a normal intruder alarm and devices called "SOUND BOMBS" !!!

Never seen one in the tub , seen them on the front grille (easy wiring access to a 12 volt truck)

Have seen the odd one on rear tow-member of chassis - IIRC one a REME LAD Rover..

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amd. Helistart are built in to side of hard-top with reeler, ISTR having seen a Red Arrows Team Rover with reel & socket inside hard-top..