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http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/14210/4243/6/FRC1962-LT95-4-SPEED-GEARBOX-ASSY.html

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LT95

The main box casing - give it a scratch , it may be black paint (giving impression of procedure for cast iron finish). If it is alloy - then probably a Santana LT85 , there were design changes to casing single/two part and I think the last ones had the reinforcement ribbing (same was the last Series 3 "Suffix K" boxes than Santana manufactured).

Don't think it is a R380 or LT77 type.

The FRC 8252 - probably just a number allocated to a reconditioned unit covered by Land Rover warrenty from franchise dealership - so you won't find it it parts books, or a Unit part No. allocated to a specific Solihull supplied military recondition contract..

Sounds like good advice from your neighbourly paint man. Would be great if you could share the brand and specs once you are satisfied that the products are robust so that future chassis are so well treated. :cool2:

If he does not contact you in the rest of your lifetime - then it was a good paint system !!

OK - later type and I can see the inner doubler plate on the offside.

If you could show a picture of the No.2 cross-member (with relay hole(s)) - probably a pressed inverted U rather than four welded corners using all flat plates. Also - if you don't mind a few detail photographs of the intersection of main longerons with the rear tow-member. Should get better pics when in grey primer..

I have a difficult decision if I ask for builing to original design - but I think Richards use thicker material (than originals) in the longeron side plates that may resolve the problems.

Interesting to note that Richards are doing the centre tub support to original design (later it was a angle welded on top of the chassis - that way you don't get the water trap because you don't use the pintle packer with the bite out). Although less of a problem with a galve chassis.

Could you please show a photograph of the chassis front - I am interested to see how they do the dumb-irons - if later doubler plate type (with holes for later steering damper bracket) or early type..

On a Land Rover , forgetting fixings. Apparently this is the only component that has seen service from 1948 to present time 62+ years..

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/467/301328-ROPE-HOOK.html?search=rope%20hook&page=1

s/s to latest Defender type No. for version pre-punched

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/14630/MWC8648-ROPE-HOOK-CLEAT.html?search=301328&page=1

Every one that were got running & kept running say by a Turkish farmer is potentially one less new vehicle going down the Otokar assembly line . With the very high local content - the Turkish government will be protecting the manufacturing capacity of the country.. With Kurdish ethnic infighting - they would just want shot.. The vehicles probably lack the required EU Vehicle (and component) Type Approvals Conformity to fill a Roll-On/Off and sell them in to Western Europe..

But they did spread some sort of tarp. on the ground to prevent oil/acid/anti-greeze contamination of Turkish soil !!

Yes , all those hinged rear spare wheel mounts would have gone down a treat on eBay for starters ?

Basically the 6-way switches

1. Hollow spindle for Ign. key barrel , screw terminals

2. Solid spindle , screw terminals

3. Solid spindle , 1/4" Lucar blades

You can fit a later knob on a early hollow spindle , you can make short conversion leads , lucar to screw.

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They can act as a fusible link , sometimes the wipers play up but you can play with it and get a connection.

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To test , us a resistance scale , bell test , lamp or whatever, TEST FROM 1 (input) TO 6.

Work to the truth table here - to see if the switch is 100% functional

http://www.land-rover-lightweight.co.uk/Lights.html'>http://www.land-rover-lightweight.co.uk/Lights.html'>http://www.land-rover-lightweight.co.uk/Lights.html

You will find a load of COLURED diagrams here , Lightweight(s).

http://www.land-rover-lightweight.co.uk/

Military Land Rovers all follow a similar theme.

You don't say if you are S2A or S3 , either way you will be on a very simple "civvy diagram" diagram (probably S2A) but incorporating a few mil. features such as the 6-way switch , just test through all connections once you have given all clear to the 6-way switch.

Obviously more vehicle details would help.

Don't regard holes in body as VPK certainty , the best positive ID hole is at the rear of the tub where the lowertail-gate rubber seal normally sits, this is for the centre-parting doors shot-bolt securing.

Axles - look for AEON hollew rubber spring cups welded on top of axle at normal buffering position , some also had them on the front axle.

You may find a modification to the axle straps - like this , (I am not convinced by the usefulness) :-

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This shows 85 KB 04 Cargo. typical positions of holes blanked with hex. sets (sometimes big pop-rivets or grommets) :-

I also have FFR 52 HG 33

The strange thing with both is that they had new tail-gate assemblies when released BUT nobody had bothered to order & fit new galv. cappings to the upper section or fit gardening tool bracketry.

Many VPK never hit the streets of NI , they were held in reserve.

AFAIK the only VPK released to civvy life was to MJC and this is now back to NI.

IIRC some kits were sold to security organisations in Norway or Sweden ??

Apparently the rest (LIGHTWEIGHT 1/2 ton) were smashed in a pit with a JCB & then fired.

If you are keen , from photographs available , the hop-sack weave effect can be reproduced easy with the correct glass & resin , so start building the moulds but don't lay them up so thick (other than at the edges) - apparently they panels were very heavy..

You will get differing definative / latest instructions on this , my understanding is that something must turn even on highway ( a rotating 3" draught eye) or the DB Light pintle FV987958 (rated 4.08 tonne).

So with a Sankey narrow-track FV2361 the pintle remaind locked upright , BUT possibly there is a need to rotate 360 degree on rough terrain (I do).

You can always ask Dixon-Bate (now Bradley Doublelock since late 2010 - who manuf. the fixed draught as used on wide-track) , so they are now the competent authority to answer this question for a wide-track pulled with a DB Light Pintle (that was not the case prior).

Something makes me think the Mk.1 Wide-track in fact had the rotating draught (as narrow-track ?? , I don't have this model to have a look). From memory - there is a upgrade to draught (this may have made them a Mk.2)So this is something to be aware of..

Wide-track trailers FV.2381 were manuf. by :-

1. Reynolds Boughton

2. Universal Engineering

3. Viking Trailers (I think Mk.2 only)

4. Arrow Construction Equip (they made the Mk.1 , IIRC some were up-graded to Mk.2 or Mk.3 & 2 struck out)

5. Parotow

6. King (a handfull or more)

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More of importance to me , there were 3 or 4 locking devices for the top latch of the pintle, long bent stainless split-pins, bent coat hanger hooks etc.

I would only set a DB Light pintle to rotate esp. on a public highway with the latest "Nappy Clip" on lanyard

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Fine BUT - these things , filters

Market Economy , ePay etc. - they have been creeping upwards in a never ending £ spiral..

They seem to be desired by everybody with a pair of FV.700's

Now - all the MOD trucks built up to late 1970's with a IR inhibited switch , one would assume there was a ready available supply of filters available.

So - what I don't understand is this , where did they all go , smashed ?? If they had been released at disposals then they would be at a realistic price now.

Or - is there a few Nissen huts somewhere stacked floor to corrugated roof with tens of thousands of pairs of filters, and if so - why ????

Pre- 1973 vehicles not eligible , an example would be one badly restored and out of compliance with the DVLA points systm. For example a Land Rover originally built with leaf springs but re-built on a new chassis for coil springs. There again some are in compliance if re-built on a Pre-1973 Range Rover chassis or a new chassis if re-built prior to the DVLA Historic Vehicle Points Systm.. This would all take a bit of investigation in the field , perusal of documentary evidence and could not be done fully from a computer data base ..

That red-oxide can sometimes shear away and look pink/red or grey/pink - that is in fact the IRR NATO Green..

Often the Army did not do a proper prep , sometimes I don't think they correctly de-greased new DBG because I have fully stripped NATO Green off with a steam cleaner..

I used to use Dufay Titaine original IIR NATO and have the brushing & spray data sheets somewhere. This firm was taken over by PRC-Desoto and everything has changed. In theory the original IRR was supposed to be sprayed on a prepared surface (at least the first top-coat).

Now - you would probably use something like this :-

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:mwj96yW1JHkJ:www.lindberg-lund.com/files/Tekniske%2520datablad/PR-219-TD.pdf+desoto+def+stan&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjH4nzjrFhYuBI7Pplk_hhHUVPgqLv6YNLyVKQrcB6SnZE6O0pceRLl64-7aD-VnPDd8aL2sHArIZoha2qarWkVXr-iejmX_233SVb-C0BkJEV4P-AdOn88E2kCOQKyiXZ83X7M&sig=AHIEtbSvzTY6dhS5qop7xiYosgdctMY3qQ

Note the colour - Olive Yellow , not too far away from Eau-De-Ni

From what I have observed of RAF Land Rovers - they did not use service men to re-paint them. They always seemed to get a good spray finish. I know until recent years they employed their own civilian painters for aircraft re-finish, AFAIK they use the paint makers staff or contractors for the new compliant paints. It is probably just grey used as a sealing coat, the original could be / suspected infra-red reflective and the last coat NATO Green that was not IRR. Either colours could be a isolator used over an air-dried synthetic or anything , I have used a paint called OB Primer , a very universal (2 pack) cure all (not a isolator) made by a firm called Upoxy Research Ltd , use it over plastic , bare metals and directly takes finishes inc. celle.

Original chassis paint at best would have just been de-greased. OD would probably not be a good base for a class finish of RAF Blue/Grey. If it was a gloss dress coat of RAF Blue/Grey - then it would probably need a grey undercoat , alternative would be a obliterating ground coat of something suitable he had to hand such as Eau de Nil (that he had probably tested on a earlier job). Undercoat colours are funny , grey covers most OK for most top-coats. Yellow finishing often needs a brown undercoat for best results..

The mail just plucked the info. off the web site page :-

http://www.cellaenergy.com/index.php?page=Markets#vehicles

I would not doubt the technology is proven and there but yes 10 years to get this low pressure system on the forecourt even if full funding available , this would need a breathing space for car production tanked up as required before the ideal stage of fuel cell and direct electric propulsion at realistic cost (30 years away)..

http://www.cellaenergy.com/

What they are saying is that the problem of storage and transport of this "hydrogen based" fuel is now resolved.

They are a bit short on info. on production of the hydrogen - a extra nuclear station or two should power it.

Possibly hype - who knows just now..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1351341/Relief-pumps-Revolutionary-hydrogen-fuel-cost-just-90p-GALLON-run-existing-cars.html

Or will it be taxed out of existance..

Bodywork such as bonnet , grille mesh, wing front panels (position of lamps side by side) - are all indicating civvy build spec.

However - it could be a Contract B Car Utility , the chassis No. could confirm..

Yes - that I understand , however without clarification - it reads as if all vehicles must be Re-SORN after change of ownership. We are agreed that - The SORN scheme only applies to vehicles where a tax disc expired on or after 31 January 1998 , therefore laid up vehicles not within the SORN sheme - do not have to be SORN on change of ownership.

There must be DVLA people at Swansea with nothing better to do with their time but trawl historic vehicle forum sites such as this - they must be laughing their heads off..

Re: SORN fines

Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post

You cannot SORN it until the log book has been issued in your name, you have to wait until the logbook arrives then you can SORN it.

Even if it was taken off the road before SORN came in, when there is a change of keeper you have to SORN it. Same applies if you acquire a vehicle that is part way through the twelve month SORN period, when the new log book is issued the existing SORN is canceled and you have to re SORN. Just because the previous keeper signed and agreed to keep the vehicle off the road, he has no control once the vehicle has been sold on.

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The above quote..

With forum comments on such subjects , if you rely on a experience or know for certain then it is always best to quote some reference. My comment was that AFAIK - this is being re-cycled and not based on known facts , also I did agree with you on the variance of advice from DVLA. The problem being is that too many people are searching the internet for the truth because of misunderstanding due to official literature not being produced in plain English. The authoritioes rely on the fact that there are few solicitors & barristers and that the rest of the population lead a busy life , this enables these QUANGO to operate yet another extortion racket. You can see from the little info. presently available on SORN2 , they are feeling their way along with their police backers , drip, drip, drip

I take it that it is safe to assume DVLA VS GREY = DVLA -v- tim grey ??

DVLA - seem to rely on the population taking a general disinterest , how right.

I need to be looking more into this SORN racket and watch the legal situation.

Two sites taking a interest regarding SI's :-

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?186019

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=45780

The comment by Grumpy on this forum - that their are alternatives to making use of the DVLA facilities to SORN on a annual basis is most interesting , BUT is he correct with this comment ? It is all very well scribing with a officious style , however I am now satisfied he has been wrong with some comments, need to determine the truth with the same documents the DVLA briefs have to hand..

If he is then the words illegal entrapment, intimidation and embezzelement come to mind..