ArtistsRifles

Thanks Stuart - had a great time there and thoroughly enjoyed myself. just what I needed after the last few weeks at work!!! Now I'm really looking forwards to the next one over at Kelvedon Hatch. Hey Neil You doing that Camping thing?? or are you just coming for the day/s ?? Not sure yet John - a lot depends on what happens this forthcoming Saturday!!! I'll let you know when things have fallen into place one way or the other. Be nice to do it though!!!

Maybe a silly question - but are you sure it's the same vehicle - I keep looking at the external pic's and somethings saying"they're different" - but I'm damned if I can find it......

Any one fancy a (replica) blast from the past?? C&C Military Services have a replica WW1 tank up for grabs - built for the fim "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" it's based on a Centurion AVRE and can be yours for a mere £25,000!!

Clive, Did you mean to say: Alles ist gut, aber ich kann nicht dieses Forum verstehen, mein Deutscher bin nicht so gut. Viel Dank ???? My German is a "little" better - not a lot though - I just refuse to use it as a matter of principle due to conditions at work!!!

Thanks Stuart - had a great time there and thoroughly enjoyed myself. just what I needed after the last few weeks at work!!! Now I'm really looking forwards to the next one over at Kelvedon Hatch.

Up on ebay right now is a Mk 2 Stalwart described thus: And in a rather "unusual" colour scheme: Wrote and asked what was missing from the swim kit etc. and the reply was: Sounds to me more like ALL the swim kit that was removed is missing!!! Still - if the trip this weekend gets no results I'll go take a look at this one if he hasn't sold it by then!!

Thanks Richard (the other one!) I'll bear that one in mind and if the suspension height hasn't been reset bythe previous owner will put it on top of the list of "to do"jobs!!

They tend to stop VERY fast (and stall out) when you dip the cutch due to the wind-up in the transmission. Power needs to be applied cautiously and slightly progressively when cornering. Accelerate and she'll veer one way - lift off too quickly and she'll veer the opposite way for the same reason. A Stalwart needs to be treated with care and respect on the public highway at all times - their other part trick comes from the steering rams. You need to correct the steering just enough to keep her on a more or less straight line. move the wheel too far unintentionally and the rams kick in and take over. Not unknown to need both sides of the road + the pavements + the hedgerows to correct this if it gets too bad :oops: Oh yes - and the gear change is even worse than a worn Militants one!! Going from 2 to 3 is a risky business as there's a fair chance of missing and trying to get 1!!

Too true about the grunt. Stopped on the M4 at some services way back when and a Kraut truck driver started exacting the urine from our Militant tippers. So the troop S/Sgt took a couple of tow cables, hooked them onto the front of the Krauts rig and proceeded to pull it around the truck park with one. Soon stopped him laughing .

Thats novel - a website for a group dedicated to renacting a Britsh Army unit thats primarily in German????

I think you can get away with that in a Ferret Chris - but I suspect the Stalwart might be a bit too noticeable Seriously though - I've no problems with extended maint before and after - if I did then I'd be in the wrong hobby, wouldn't I Just relieved to hear others on the Alvis 6x6 model are doing it.....

The problem with driving stollies on the road is the wind up you get in the wheels, it apparently needs to be driven every so often on rough ground to "unwind" them, just a thought :idea: Below is the full answer from the Stalwart Owners list on this very topic. Do I assume then, that although Saracens and Saladins effectively have the same running gear, the wind-up effects are not so severe on them??? Also - as regards the OilDag/gear oil mix: (Edited to include Oil/OilDag mix.)

FWIW to you Richard - we used to reckon on an average speed for the Militants of 20 mph and a top speed of 30 mph (flat out with following wind) when convoy planning. "Good" point about the Militants was these speeds were the same irrespective of it being unladen or carrying a full load!!! Just took longer to get to them Are you all planning on being at Duxford on the 18th then?? If so - will be along with camera. Too much to hope a Stalwart will have transferred ownership by then !!

Thanks folks. Intersting points of view Now - to compound the issue - one of the reasons for having a vehicle like a Stalwart moved rather than driven is the fact that they do not like being towed any great distance and certainly not at any speed in the event of break-down and recovery being required (which kind of brings us back to another thread on here about breakdown cover for H.M.V.'s!!). As they are all part of the same family - how do those who whizz around in Saracens and Saladins get on in regards to this point???

Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I weren't so set on getting a Stalwart I'd be engaged in the task of trying to find a Mk1 GS - probably an almost impossible task these days....

Good luck!!!

ArtistsRifles, that sounds very close to 'my' RL, 9 Regt AAC, BFPO 41. Traded them in for MKs in about '81. Richard, thanks for the information, it all helps to put a rough date on when the apple of my eye was on the road. 21 EP 60 - an RL-W - was assigned to "C" Troop, 215 Sqdn, 151 Regt RCT (VR) in the mid Seventies. We were based at the drill hall in the Mile End road opposite the tube station. As an Engineer suport unit our primary vehicles were Mk1 militant 6x4 tippers - holding a class 2 HGV meant I spent most of my time in the cab of one of those. Fun in their own way and more of a challenge to drive but the RL was the one I loved driving. Can't recall now the reg of the other vehicles after all this time - although I think the one Militant 6x6 GS we had was 08 ET 56. Garage there held 3 Militant tippers, 1 Militant GS, 2 RL's and one 90" landrover. Oh yeah - and a BSA B40 despatch bike....

Thanks - I'll amend the caption next time I log onto the site!!

Thanks Lee - there's no immediate rush as such!! I'm not going to look at her till next Saturday and, if we can arrange a deal thats equitable to both parties, it's going to take another couple of weeks after that (at least) to arrange the money and insurance etc.

Why not do a deal with the seller where he delivers (drives) it for a fixed fee & you give him a lift home, if it's as reliable as he says he shouldn't have to much of a problem with that.. Good idea - spoils my fun though And I need to have a destination in mind before I could do that sort of deal Right now I'm thinking I might see about getting her left in situ until something can be sorted out in that department.

Interesting range of views Primary reason for asking - of course - was to get a feel for the best wat of getting a prospective purchase home. Works out at £96 of fuel to get home unaided - possibly £300 on a low loader. Sorely tempted now to drive it home given the reports on performance and reliability from the current owner.....

Thats interesting - my fav. RL in 215 was 21 EP 60.

Well - there are a few here: http://community.webshots.com/album/548931825MedeyP Wasn't too sure how good the batteries were so took it easy Nice to meet up with all the faces from the forum who were there and I look forwards to doing so again in the future - hopefully with my own vehicle next time!! If I missed saying goodbye to any one please accept my apologies and pass them on acordingly, I was late in leaving to pick up the daughter mk 1 and didn't have time to do the rounds. Was a good day for me and I thoroughly enjoyed myself!!!! Thanks to everyone there!!!!

So - having paraphrased the Great Bard in the title - the question is do you drive a vehicle to a show - or even just drive around in general - or does it travel on a low-loader?? Reason I ask is the consensus of opinion on the Stalwart owners list is put it on a lowloader (a) because of fuel consumption and (b) because it's a 40+ year old vehicle and might break down - and if it does the average RAC/AA type won;t be able to fix it. Seems a degree of logic there However - after talking to Staurt, Lee, Kevin and others down at Coahouse Fort today I'm left with the impression that driving them is not such a big issue (provided you can affrd the fuel ) Thus the questions - provided you're vehicle is road legal: * would you drive to a show or just on a local cruise around- or would you only ever transport it there???? *Is there a "cut-off" range (say 40 miles as an arbitrary figure) below which you'd drive and over which it's transporter time?? * Would driving in a convoy affect either of the above decisions???

One of the chaps on the Stalwart mailing list posted this yesterday - I've reposted it here in case it may be of help to any one else outside the Stalwart owning community!!