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Nope, this should help: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/plate02.jpg[/img]

Nope, nope.

Yes it is, well done. But for what?

Any ideas? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/-gun-shield.jpg[/img]

Probably because some interior designer with an affected name, on one of those awful improve your home & sell it TV programmes has pronounced brown as no longer a "now colour". Others follow the trends & colours become passe for no good reason. Bit like light bulbs, I was unable to buy an ordinary clear 60 watt light bulb in a very large store. All they had were, light bulbs for women who watch these TV programmes. All in silly shapes & colours, nonsense like my theme, chill, smooth light, gentle pastel, relaxing pink. Madness.

What are you proposing Tony, a living history display of a soldier having a bath? Well volunteered then! Below is an extract from Administration within the Division 1951: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/RAOCBath.jpg[/img]

Been doing some digging & chatting, W10 was not around in 1937, was introduced to absorb some existing groups like W1, V2, V3 . Anticipating a big take up allocations straight into W10 were in 5 digits rather than the earlier 4 digits. I have a few scanned pages of the 1956 revision. Can you give me the part number & see if it is listed on what I've got.

Well I suppose the RAF having been around for less time, could just jump in with a system, without the evolutionary problems that beset the Army & goodness know how the RN keeps track of things, when identical components end up with different part number because they are used in different systems! VAOS Vocab sections & subsections seem to have exist well before part numbers were allocated. The problem with collecting documents like VAOS is that they are large & bulky, so difficult to put in a pocket. There would be relatively few in number & tend to be kept in stores where they would be under lock & key. They would not be issued to troops in the numbers like training manuals & thus not end up in lofts that get cleared out when some old soldier dies. In many peoples eyes, unlike a training manual, VAOS stuff is considered boring & discarded! I would join: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MilitaryManualCollectorsClub Out of interest you might enjoy this sales catalogue link, there are no VAOS sections attributed to the items, but it certainly makes interesting reading. Good luck in your searches. http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83019 There are a few articles on various stores systems on site, here: http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/EarlyArmyPartnos.pdf http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/NATOparts.pdf http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/RAFPartNumbers.pdf http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/ArmyandNavyStoresNumbers.pdf

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Well he is completely wrong & you are right, aren't we! Where do these people come rom with this nonsense? What next? Are you going to enquire about the 1950s Swiss made trainer that is not a water cannon that in fact is a water cannon used by the Germans in WW2? And there are now markings German markings to prove it.

Here is a wartime Australian set up. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/wwmobilelaundryk.jpg[/img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/wwmobilelaundryj.jpg[/img]

As far as mobile laundry units go in the 1960s they were almost exclusively on 5-Ton 4-Whld Brockhouse trailers. Bath units were less plentiful & would seem to offer limited accommodation being based on 1-Ton trailers. Brockhouse Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted from Mk 1 to Mk 4 Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Drying Room, Mk 1 Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Drying Room, Mk 2, LH Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Drying Room, Mk 2, RH Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Drying Tumbler Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Drying Tumbler, Mk 1 Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Washing Machine & Extractor Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Washing Room & Extractor, LH, Mk 2, Type A Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Washing Room & Extractor, RH, Mk 2 Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted , Washing Room & Extractor, RH, Mk 2, Type A Cleaver Brooks, 5-Ton, 2-Whld Laundry, Trailer Mounted Eagle, 5-Ton, 2-Whld Laundry Unit, Trailer Mounted, Boiler & Hot Water Storage Tank Brockhouse, 1-Ton, 2-Whld Bath Unit, Trailer Mounted Sankey, 1-Ton, 2-Whld Bath Unit, Trailer Mounted

B&Q are still listing it as available in store, this is called "garage door paint" whether that is smooth or hammer finish is not stated: http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=brown+hammerite+paint&selected=products&x=35&y=11

Unfortunately I have very few wartime VAOS none are W10. I have some editions of W10 but they are the later publications i.e. COSA. That of course means that they are NSNs preceded by the old VAOS prefix merely used to give the Domestic Management Code. Although VAOS in all its forms started after the Crimean War, the allocation of a stores vocabulary numbers only seems to have happened at the very end of WW2. Myself & other VAOS enthusiasts have never been able to pin down the precise time that the numbers came in. I suspect it was a rather woolly time span like the introductions of NSNs & the phasing out of VAOS by COSA. At one stage there were still VAOS but comprising NSNs & no VAOS numbers! I can understand how you want to pin down the date for items. But the problem is that it was not necessarily chronological. Once the VAOS section & group is defined there are usually a some code letters to identify the manufacturer. The final bit of the vocabulary code is the manufacturer's own part number. Sometimes these were chronological or based on some whim of the manufacturer. So looking at a VAOS code with lower numbers does not necessarily mean it is earlier in manufacture that an item with a longer code. You will be lucky to find a wartime VAOS. Such VAOS & their catalogues would have the code in the top left: 57 Vocabulary ???? Immediate post war VAOS would have a W.O. Code No. ??? on the top right. I am afraid there is no obvious logic to their structure or as they were later designated Army Code No. Catalogues of VAOS were compiled in WO Code No.12123 Groucho publications do reprints of many wartime publications including VAOS. He has changed to his name. I went to this link but, he seems to have changed it & you can't view what he has got without registering. http://www.robvanmeel.nl/index.php You may get some help if you join: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MilitaryManualCollectorsClub The only other thought is, given the contents of W10, is it possible it could also have something the RAF or RN could have used? If it was in RAF use then the numbering was much more likely to be chronological. It would be listed in the relevant Vocab of Air Publication No.1086. But if it was in RN use then heaven help us all. RN part numbers are chaotic, logical in places then very illogical for most of it!

Zero bids, but sadly it'll just get posted until someone falls for it

I hope they are square mushrooms, not mushroom shaped mushrooms :?

Yes , yes, yes. Well done Richard :yay: :yay: :dancinggirls: :yay: :yay: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Bofos02.jpg[/img] I don't know if anyone has got ones of these. I have a thick EMER covering the gears, hydraulics, synchros & amplifiers.

These are the Bronze Greens: Light Bronze Green BSC222 Middle Bronze Green BSC223 Deep Bronze Green BSC 224 The Army appear not to use MBG as it is not listed in any COSAs I have to hand. LBG is used for certain instruments & some stencilling. I agree with Richard that the early PW vehicles were to be high gloss DBG (up until NATO schemes came in). This was laid down in Specification 2012 issued by the Fighting Vehicles Design Department (FVDD) in 1948.

The caption reads: "This marker balloon is used by jungle patrols to signal aircraft. It is blown up by adding water to a chemical in a container attached to the envelope. Then it is allowed to rise above the trees, where its orange plastic skin is easily seen. Its job done, it is cut loose." Was in a 1956 article about the Malayan Emergency.

Not aware of any project called Green Arrow. Did you mean Green Archer? It isn't but you are getting very warm ;-)

Some useful stuff here: http://web.archive.org/web/20030625194512/http://www.jed.simonides.org/misc/jerrycans/jerrycans.html

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Richard, I have here a copy of the treaty. It makes interesting reading although it is rather wordy, not forgetting half of it is in Russian. In Article III there are certain exclusions to destruction: In process of manufacture, including testing Exclusively for R&D Belong to historical collections Awaiting disposal, having been decommissioned Awaiting export or refurbishment for export APCs held & used by organisations for IS duties In transit for no more than 7 days to an area outside the treaty Section X covers the procedure for reduction by means of static display, which I note should not exceed 1% of total Section X covers "Procedure by means of static display" which amongs other things includes the concrete. I remember seeing about 6 Ferrets, including some Malayan ones, at Boscombe Down, these were filled up with concrete. They were said to be to provide heavy loads for aircraft & drops etc Section VIII provides for conversion to non-military purposes: GP prime movers Bulldozers Fire fighting vehicles Cranes Power unit vehicles Mineral crushing vehicles Quarry vehicles Rescue vehicles Casualty evacuation vehicles Oil rig vehicles Oil & chemical spill cleaning vehicles Tracked ice breaking prime movers Environmental vehicles

The On-Site Inspection Agency's Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe have minimum requirements for the destruction of AFVs of various types & aircraft. However there is an exception in the form of "The Procedure for Reduction by means of Static Display" where one of the requirements is "to have their engine compartment filled with concrete or a polymer resin". So maybe this 432 was selected for this treatment.

Oh that's a relief, I was always worried that it was a picture of you ;-)