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Adam just been trying to guess the 2nd digit! So we have 0* BK 81. Of the 10 vehicles it could, I have discounted the ones which were still FV1601 or converted to FV1613 & FV1620. This pig is a FV1611. So that leaves 4 candidates remaining that are FV1611. One can be discounted as it was struck off census before the picture was taken. So the possibilities are: 03 BK 81 S/O 17/5/65 School of Artillery 05 BK 81 S/O 31/12/68 School of Infantry 06 BK 81 S/O 3/5/67 BAOR Would be interesting to see if it was among those that were used by Canadian or Danish UN contingents.

Anyone not seen this shot before? Looks a bit overdone as a restoration?

Well I'm not parking next to you at a show, I won't be able to receive anything! Had you thought of trying to contact any servicemen that had served with them? They might be chuffed that these artefacts have been preserved & who knows what stories, info & photos might follow such a reunion?

They are BSF. If all else fails I might have to make some or get some made up. Its just frustrating that the shorter ones are available for as low as 50p. I just keep on hoping that somebody, somewhere, has a grubby little cardboard box with 5 of them just waiting for me!

Norman, yesterday I went to a LR dealer who once used to deal in military stuff. I hoped there was some NOS still around. He produced a S3 hub. Identical except as you say it had fatter studs that were serrated & pressed in. Unfortunately no 2A hubs, although he had got the studs. These studs, 217360 superseded by 561590, are advertised as SI & S2. They are used in 2A & 2A 1-Ton. But unfortunately they are the short ones. When I came across 217360 I got excited as the long double-domed stud is 217361, so I thought they must be compatible. But not so, just wish I could find the part number for the longer stud. I suppose if all else fails I could get the S3 hub. Apart from the non-originality, I think the studs are metric & then I need to carry another wheel brace.

Trouble is if you go there & follow the link to military scene, my security system feels it necessary to block the page. When you finish browsing all manner of advertising rubbish is left despite having a pop blocker turned on.

Oh yes. He extended the crane horizontally, chained it to the front of the pig, then pulled it in. Chocked it, reduced the chains & repeated this until he got it up near the lorry. Then the big lift. He coped very well with the lane a lot better than drivers of smaller large lorries. This contractor had actually delivered the same pig to me eleven years ago when I bought it from the Tank Museum.

Yes, on the cab it said 110 TONNE METRE What does that mean? He told me he can lift a 432 on board with it.

He did a recce yesterday. Came at 1130, left about 1230. Ring Ian, I have just spoken to him.

Going Going Going Still going Gawn! :cry::cry::cry:

Ah, the crash has a lot to answer for. Forgot the books weren't there any more. It was useful for the ordinary member to comment on their experiences with a particular book rather than the more full blown critique & review.

CW yes you're right it would look odd with the junior nuts on, rather than the long double domed ones. I've got screw in studs on the other hubs, they have never moved. Although they have been there for 44 years I suppose.

But there was a particular place, but it's gawn.

How was that achieved Chris? The inner end looks slightly domed inwards. But no sign of any sort of hammering over anywhere. Not sure how satisfactory welding steel & cast iron would be. This may all be academic if the studs aren't available as spares or even if they do actually exist, identifying them with a part number! I think there is a figure of something like 80% of MOD stores are not lost through damage or theft, but are "lost" because the label has come off & nobody knows what it is for!

Adam with 4 wipers needed, I hoped these would do: http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/9721/PRC1330F-WIPER-BLADE-FLAT-SERIES-II-III.html?search=wiper%20blade&page=1 But no picture:argh: He seems quite reasonable on other prices & found him via a recommendation. Wouldn't be a problem in the show season looking & comparing, but trying to distance buying is problem particularly trying to match up this hub for it. Yes those pressure switches were off ebay I thought I bought his last two. Then next day he put up another five, so plenty to go round!

Thank you both. I hadn't thought of 2B, but I had zero response on the Series 2 forum where I thought someone would have recognised it. If Dunsfold was nearer I would take in the old one, trying to explain on the phone is not so quick or easy as seeing it directly. Looking in the IPC the C suffix vehicles & the later 1 Ton chassis have the same hub 561889. My studs are threaded not serrated, this leaves both types of vehicle as having 561590 studs 9/16" BSF x 1 21/32". The only domed each end nuts are 217361 1" x 59/64. The dilemma is even if I could source the longer studs. I don't know whether the replacement flange I fitted has threads or serrated. I suspect threaded but I don't want to mangle it all up in my efforts to try to remove them Even if I did that I am not clear how securely the studs can be locked into place. I can see the serrated ones have a little shoulder, but I worry about the security of threaded ones. I would feel happier in my own mind to fit a factory assembled hub with studs already fitted. Wheels & brakes are the most important things. I'm not just thinking of the recent tragedy where someone had done their own work on a Rover. This hub was ruined after my first ever trip out. I omitted the tighten the wheel nuts & I drove it 35 miles to Bovington. On the Bere Regis roundabout the wheel came off rolled into a field & the Shorland uncomfortably collapsed blocking the flow of traffic. That event is still very vivid in my memory, as a frightening & could have been a tragedy event! The Mk 3 IPC isn’t a great help it quotes for a “Rover axle” hub as 593796 or “Salisbury axle” 599679 both with shouldered studs (presumably serrated) 599678, but we are in Series 3 territory now. Here I am being rescued by Dick Sheppard. Got me back to Bovy where & Chatty welded the wheel onto the remnants of the studs.

Yes I believe his brother was a landscape gardener then Richard Anstey restored it before he got his MRA1.

Adam, yes I've always had to hacksaw them down. Where images are shown on these sort of items, it is never a very clear view of the exact fitting. Was that standard type if 50s/60s then? They are are bit expensive as I will need 2 pairs. BTW do you need a stop light pressure switch on the pig servo? I have found some at £1.98 although postage costs more than that!

The proper wiper blades for my 1965 Shorland are no longer obtainable. They had no Rover number but were identified by Lucas 54700102 or Trico 205410E. In the past I have just picked up single stud in the arm push on wipers & cut them to length. Easy seeing them at a dealer or stall, but internet ordering not so easy as everything is identified by part number & often with “image not available”. So do the wipers below have the same fitting means as the standard wiper of the time? But I am not sure what is meant by “box fitting” (GWB128) or “stud fitting” (GWB127). I would prefer black as they are easier to paint than chrome, is there are identifying part no to distinguish that? Thanks

I’m trying to find the correct rear hub for my 1965 Shorland that predates the official 1 Ton chassis. It has ENV diffs & 900-16 tyres. Twenty or so years ago I damaged the hub & fitted something else that seemed identical other than the studs being shorter. The nuts do not fully engage & I now wish to fit the correct thing. What I don’t know is whether the proper hub is like all 2As of the time ie 561886 or whether it was something else. I suspect it is the same. But would appreciate if someone knows the length of the protruding stud & can reassure me that it is the same before I order one. Protruding stud 1.30 in (33.16 mm) Nut length 0.995mm (25.3 mm) Below is the incorrect hub. Here it is flush to show the shorter length of the stud for comparison. Protruding stud 1.12 in (28.47 mm) Nut length 0.995mm (25.3 mm) With the wheel fitted the thread end is recessed into the nut by about 3 turns. Had this query on the Series 2 forum for 2 days & got no response.

Yes even when you order microfiche documents, they are processed to order, but at least they will be up to date.

I don't know how many pages & documents that was, but I paid a similar amount to the MOD for all the AESPs for the Wolf. Even these are photocopies, there isn't a stack of printed documents, they are printed to order. In service the move seems to be paperless with documents accessed through the military intranet.

Yes that was the thing catching them at it. I knew what was then a GPO inspector & he was frustrated that magistrates would not convict on installation of WT gear alone. Although this in itself contravened Sect 1 of WT Act 1949, magistrates wanted only evidence that of them being caught using it.The equipment was confiscated & only a modest fine imposed. Even more frustrating was TV licence evasion, in those days (1960s) the fine was usually about the same as the TV licence itself, so many saw licence evasion as a worthwhile gamble!

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Alex, I clicked on that & my internet security system blocked it as a forged site, whatever that means - so I got out quick!