Great War truck Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think that the skeleton is still at Aberdeen (and no longer in the closet), I do hope it is in one of the buildings now as opposed to out in the weather. I think that as the Grand Panjandrum was never used in anger it can not qualify as one to build from scratch. A mark V is a much better idea. Failing that an armoured Autocar body on an original chassis muight be a better idea. I saw an original running example with a horrible replica body on E Bay a while back for $14,000. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Here's a nice HMVF restoration project. It needs identification and recovery first, though! Any takers? - Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Where was that taken? Afghanistan? Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Looks like a Crossley armoured car body: I want it! The one to the right is a WW2 Daimler A/C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I believe it is a Crossley, 6 x 6, (Medium) Armoured Car built during the early 1930s. A number of these were supplied to Iraq. That is where these remains were photographed around 2005. Anyone packing their bags already? - Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 That is amazing. Just out of curiosity, whereabouts in Iraq? Tim 9too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I believe it is a Crossley, 6 x 6, (Medium) Armoured Car built during the early 1930s. A number of these were supplied to Iraq. The 6x4 Crossley armoured cars seem to have the door hinged at the rear, whereas the 4x2 Crossleys had them hinged at the front. So I don't think it is a 6x4. Are those solid tyred wheels related? - They could be off a 4x2 version: looks like some singles and twins there. I don't think the rear axle in the background belongs to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Guy 6x4 amoured cars had very similar bodies... looking at a few photographs they would appear to have the door hinged at the front... but there are some detail differences as well which makes me think it isn't off one of them. Edited January 18, 2009 by Runflat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Just out of curiosity, whereabouts in Iraq?Tim, I don't know, the pics were sent to me by someone as I was looking for Sherman tanks in Iraq: http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/showgallery.php?cat=797 The Crossley was part of a group of AFVs including Sherman TRV, Daimler AC, and Indian Pattern Wheelded Armoured Carrier. - Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) The 6x4 Crossley armoured cars seem to have the door hinged at the rear, whereas the 4x2 Crossleys had them hinged at the front. So I don't think it is a 6x4. My guess is based on the similarities of the hull and the fact that the 6 x 6 was supplied to Iraq. I would love to be proven wrong, though. I think Tim can handle the chassis work. But why is going to recreate the domed turret? Adrian? - Hanno Edited January 18, 2009 by mcspool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Agreed - it would be interesting to know more. Looking at some more photos, I note that some of the 4x2 versions had side doors hinged at the rear; so presumably a development at some stage. But still not seen any 6x4 versions (they are four wheel drive, not six) with them hinged at the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) Here's another candidate for the HMVF restoration project. As the first one, it needs identification and recovery first! - Hanno Edited April 1, 2009 by mcspool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Which country is this in? Then i can think about recovery. Thanks Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Which country is this in? Then i can think about recovery. All I know is that the picture was taken on a "Trip to Tripoli and Benghazi in Lybia, 12Mar2009" by a certain Paul (it seems he´s from Holland; who knows, he could be living down the street). There´s another interesting AFV close to it, please bring it home for me when you go and fetch the A/C! By the way, do you know what type of A/C it is? - Hanno Edited April 2, 2009 by mcspool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 The a/c looks like a Lancia IZ or IZM. http://www.immaginidistoria.it/immagine2.php?id_img=364&id=16 Not sure what the tracked vehicle is yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 I would agree with Alan on the Lancia. The tracked beast looks a bit Fiat like, but with a very unusual hull. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) I agree too on the Lancia. The tank seems to be a carro d'assalto Fiat 3000, albeit with changes to the track system. Seems it was replaced by that off a crawler tractor at a more recent date. Could have been used as a crawler tractor, hence the loss of the turret and the glacis plate. After entering service in 1921, this Renault FT-17 clone was first used in action in February 1926 in Libya. That could explain the presence of a survivor in that country. Fascinating stuff still to be found out there, eh? - Hanno Edited April 3, 2009 by mcspool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Well someone has beaten me to it. I see that at Bovington this year is the debut of an A7V replica. There is a superb one in Germany, but this is a different one built in the UK by Bob Grundy. Has anybody seen it or know about it? I might have to go to Bovy after all just to see it. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I don't know about the A7V but the Lancia and Fiat 3000 mentioned earlier turn out to be film props from "Lion of the Desert" filmed in Lybia: http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11071 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Ah that explains that. I found references MV magazine of M3 half tracks kept on a British base in Lybia in the 60's for use in the making of war films. The tank museum guide mentions the A7V replica on page two of the guide: http://www.tankmuseum.org/asset_arena/textual/de/bovtm_tankfest_2009_show_guide.pdf Sadly not much info and no photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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