Adrian Dwyer Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 From Basic Combat Engineer Skills: part 1 (RE: 1981). In case useful. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Five Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Another suggestion is to make something similar to the box but built like a sled. Some 4"x2" timber with a couple of pallets on top. Then a couple of bits of timber and straps to stop the bomb rolling off. Then lift one end of the sled with the excavator and track backwards dragging it out. Some round fence stabs might work as rollers - very Stonehenge. Some creative lifting and pushing/pulling could also get it onto your trailer. Sounds like it could be fun, very frustrating when it is not going to plan, but very satisfying when completed. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmaoileoin Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Job done. I got there - all the comments and pictures you folk sent helped - so many thanks. The holder at the nose worked wonders - I had been using straps but they slipped, However a coil of polyprop did the trick and was also great to secure the bomb to the trailer for my throught Inverness! I now have to find a way to put it on display, it would be nice sitting nose down in the ground - with most of it showing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmaoileoin Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 18 hours ago, Adrian Dwyer said: From Basic Combat Engineer Skills: part 1 (RE: 1981). In case useful. A Adrian, I have the 1911 Manual of Field Engineering. I found it facinating - how to compute the flow of water in a burn/river, how much water you need for a troop, how to cross a ravine with a rapid pile footbridge etc. I never though about moving forward in time. Your input is/was much appreciated. Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Proper job and a great result! A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Nose up: so people know it's a bomb! Give some thought about the depth of a footing to stop it toppling over if it gets a good clout. Nose down would only work - in my view - if you could get hold of a tail unit (so people know it's a bomb!) All the best. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 4 hours ago, iainmaoileoin said: A wealth of good stuff here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmaoileoin Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 3 minutes ago, Adrian Dwyer said: I have ordered one; Is there a part 2 - I cant find one in any of the bookshops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmaoileoin Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 24 minutes ago, Adrian Dwyer said: Nose up: so people know it's a bomb! Give some thought about the depth of a footing to stop it toppling over if it gets a good clout. Nose down would only work - in my view - if you could get hold of a tail unit (so people know it's a bomb!) All the best. A I am on the hunt for a tail - I am told there was one in an inverness museum that shutdown. Somebody said the units were hollow (I had assumed concrete filled). If hollow I could remove the detonator and the "plug at the rear" and insert a pole/section through the bomb. The plan was a nice poured concrete slab with the pole supported on a ground plate embedded in the 'crete. (Same as we do for masts that we put up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, iainmaoileoin said: Afternoon Iain - I have never seen a part 2 but I suspect there was one. Now you just need to locate a splash of olive drab and yellow paint . . . A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, iainmaoileoin said: I am on the hunt for a tail - I am told there was one in an inverness museum that shutdown. Somebody said the units were hollow (I had assumed concrete filled). If hollow I could remove the detonator and the "plug at the rear" and insert a pole/section through the bomb. The plan was a nice poured concrete slab with the pole supported on a ground plate embedded in the 'crete. (Same as we do for masts that we put up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmaoileoin Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 mixol and a keen eye goes a long way to getting the colour you need - mixol tints Thanks for those photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Or, you could have just slung it on the moped . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iainmaoileoin Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 At the end of all of this I fear there was a trivial way to proceed ;-( Take out the detonator, take out the end-cap, strap or rod front to back, job done. In my head I had the bomb filled with concrete. I didnt pay attention to the "the cast makes up the weight" comment. So if anyone else is on this job a strop/strap through the bomb may be an easier way to fly. I might go down that route for the "lift off" and see if it is viable. But not this week 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 19 minutes ago, iainmaoileoin said: At the end of all of this I fear there was a trivial way to proceed ;-( Take out the detonator, take out the end-cap, strap or rod front to back, job done. In my head I had the bomb filled with concrete. I didnt pay attention to the "the cast makes up the weight" comment. So if anyone else is on this job a strop/strap through the bomb may be an easier way to fly. I might go down that route for the "lift off" and see if it is viable. But not this week 😉 Don't leave home without one! <https://pro11wellbeing.co.uk/product/pro11-wellbeing-hernia-belt/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 7 hours ago, Adrian Dwyer said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Ask at the National Museum of Aviation - located at East Fortune Airfield , North Berwick - they may just have a complete sample of this bomb & blueprint / able to get you the tailfin drawings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 You may not have 'employed persons' involved , you may be DIY in total - however - if a risk assessment is completed / & work in accordance with LOLER Regs. - then there should be no injuries , normally a excavator used for craning is fitted with rupture valves ! Normally for best effect such as a bomb is best suspended from a gibbet , anything less is a bit naff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmaoileoin Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 2 hours ago, ruxy said: You may not have 'employed persons' involved , you may be DIY in total - however - if a risk assessment is completed / & work in accordance with LOLER Regs. - then there should be no injuries , normally a excavator used for craning is fitted with rupture valves ! Normally for best effect such as a bomb is best suspended from a gibbet , anything less is a bit naff. It is just me and the wife. So RAMS etc are done 'on the job. We are very aware of the issues with using a wee digger! We have blown a few pipes in the past 😉 Hey the great thing about owning everything personally (and not having a company wrapped around it) is that I can form my own H&S. I am nearly 70 and still alive and kicking, yes I have had some scrapes but never been injured at work. Strangely enough it is paragliding, horse-riding, waterski jumping etc that have done me much more damage than 'work'. I appreciate it is a very different matter when the public or employees are involved - but they dont get near our manouvers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 8 hours ago, iainmaoileoin said: It is just me and the wife. So RAMS etc are done 'on the job. We are very aware of the issues with using a wee digger! We have blown a few pipes in the past 😉 Hey the great thing about owning everything personally (and not having a company wrapped around it) is that I can form my own H&S. I am nearly 70 and still alive and kicking, yes I have had some scrapes but never been injured at work. Strangely enough it is paragliding, horse-riding, waterski jumping etc that have done me much more damage than 'work'. I appreciate it is a very different matter when the public or employees are involved - but they dont get near our manouvers. As noted: good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmaoileoin Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 On 9/23/2024 at 1:43 PM, Adrian Dwyer said: Both bought - a complement to the sappers pre-ww2 book I already have. It is amazing the engineering techniques that are in these books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Dwyer Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, iainmaoileoin said: Both bought - a complement to the sappers pre-ww2 book I already have. It is amazing the engineering techniques that are in these books. Tried and tested: if it ain't broke . . . ! All the best. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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