ted angus

Mike, I think you have lost the original point of the thread at #1 AUSTIN asked the question """ I wanted to see the correct color and markings for a post war vehicle too."""""" I have endeavoured to answer the question by giving the official info current at the time his vehicle would have been in service. Yes Of course "anything goes" and I for one would never dispute that, but that does not answer "AUSTIN'S" question, whilst it has generated some outstanding period pictures for which I m very grateful for everyone sharing them, we have now ended up with a thread requesting info for a post 1953 Austin that is full of piccies from the WW2 and imediately after WW2 era . But keep them coming anyway they are priceless, Ted

I want one !! TED

Not at All, both those vehicles are in Germany so they are both spot on for that theatre, On the introduction of the 9" roundel, unit production of a 9" dia disc onto which was painted the the roundel was an option given, So in reality metal discs for roundels were around as long as metal discs for bridge class numbers, in fact they may well have preceded them. However not the case above though as I said both are serving in Germany so the roundels are on the offside !! also bear in mind the bridge circle was to be on the front in such a position as nopt to obscure any other marking as on this pair. TED

Probaly many units had only limited undercover parking. TED

Classic 2 TAF markings roundal and TAF plus unit mark on the offside. TED

Hi Mike its possible but it looks the wrong tones.. I would suggest the left hand is a double entry bridge class and the right hand one is a white circle with possibly the Sqn number note the checked roof. No doubt there have been hundreds of vehicles with a roundel on the back but the WW2 AMO and all subsequent regs diud not authorise one. But remember overseas theatres produced their own regs. TED ps I am sure somewhere I have a rear view of a Tractor with markings I will dig

Clive, et al yes shame on them. But I would have loved to have heard the soundtrack !! may be it will feature on ROADWARS one day. TED

Adam when I joined up there were still a good few series one Landies kicking about, The first one I drove was a 2 I have driven 2,2A 3 swb & lwb plus lieghtweights. 90, 110, defenders including a class V8 in the Falklands. plus 1 tonne I would put my gipsy up against any series Landie both on and off road. I think the biggest let down is the brakes, mind cruising at 50 with my fire pump on the back is not what the brakes were designed for . Its too easy to forget 20mph was the norm cruising speed when they were built !! SAM some days I struggle to drive my car 6 miles to Dundee to Tesco; so I will have to pass on that; to be honest my back has deteriorated so much I am sadly considering selling the Gipsy; I mentioned my pump, it was my previous project took 3 years. I thought it was ex NFS when I bought the pile of bits. but after I got it and checked with Godiva then the Army I traced it to having been Army from nov 1943 til the mid 1980s. post D day it made the journey to Germany where it served for many years. It returned from UK and ended its days at Cultty bragen camp near Perth. I restored it to Germany 1954 colour & markings. just a co incidence my later Gipsy was the same colour !! yes that engine was rebuilt in the kitchen where else !! TED

Adam I was at Leuchars for both GW 1 & 2 we only had an archaic paint bay in the lead up to GW 1 most of our stuff was in Alkyd FS 30279 , we held a number of contingency refuellers and bulk tankers they were done in the aircraft wash hanger, we did dozens of the ISO size drop tank storage containers and mountains of GSE . We got a signal giving the mix ratios for the paint. it was mixed in a dustbin of course the blanket stackers started beating their gums about dustbins weren't scaled for paint mixing --nothing changes with that lot. needless to say every batch was different we mixed it with a spade. We did a few vehicles in Lt Stone and again mixed our own paint from a formula it had a real banana yellow look to it !! GW 2 was a different kettle of fish we had recently commissioned our £6m paint facility, we had a bay in which we could get in a Tornado and lots of room to spare. then in addition 2 big drive through bays which could be compartmented we could work on 4 HGVs in total isolation, plus we had 2 component bays. WE could roll stuff out in 3-4 hours after final coat we could wang the temp up very high but boy did it consume north sea gas !!! I could have employed 30 painters per 12 hour shift but I only had 32 total, they worked their socks off . AS usual HMG stuck the knife in. You might know the trade has finished in the RAF even on main operating bases its now a Serco task same lads but on an even worse wage. attached is a type not often seen in the RAF. TED

Here's the deal I will send them my restoration file discs they can give me the fuel allowance Balmullo to where ever easy !! LOL I have more !!

Mine !! TED

How many miles ??? TED in sunny Balmullo

Clive I was testing you !! and as a prize -- I don't know if you have seen these photos of mine before, this is BS 381c tint 380 Camouflage Desert sand that the RAF adopted just before gulf war 2 to replace the use of FS 30279 desert sand pink introduced initially in ARTF then in synthetic alkyd for Gulf war 1 and BS 361 Lt Stone, WE did virtually the whole fleet of No1 ACC in 48 hours, as Boulmer doesn't have a spray shop. TED

Adam another anomoly was the colour we all loved on the aircraft Dark Green currently BS 641 was for many years numbered 241 !! TED

I wonder if a griper means an ex GEF man ?? The roundel was never a requirement on GSE and was only a requirement on the front of MT although of course after a bit too much thinners the painters sometimes did go a little crazy !! TED also once a griper !!

they look like old denim BD trousers they are Commando boots with the screw on rubber sole. I would think those trousers were a bit before thetime you are adfter.

Mike a one piece boiler suit, sometimes called denims, overalls or coveralls. depending what trade you were !! at that time some had big rubber buttons some had big brass press studs, some were green some were dark blue/grey. In those days they weren't on personal issue you just signed them out of section stores, on laundry day you swapped them for a pair that was the nearest fit. Of course many people just wore their battledress I had a leather jerkin all the time I was at Scampton , Commando boots with the screw on sole worn believe it or not with white seaboot socks that was up to sept 1970. No fancy gourtex in those days . WE also had a blanket lined parka some were green some were blue grey. they were 3/4 length, but they were like gold, they were a poor man's version of the cold weather p[arka worn by the multiseat aircraft aircrew. . By the way the denims (overall coveralls) had a collar and fastened at both the cuff and ankle. unlike the WW2 type which had no collar and normally had no cuff or ankle fastening. TED

Denomination of Quantity I hope the spelling is correct. If you say order a tyre the D of Q would normally be one . so if you had 10 tyres in stock, your computer system or stores ledger would show 10 (D of Q =one). If you had 500 half inch whit bolts they would be in say packets of 5. there fore the Dof Q is 5 . So the relevant NSN would refer to a packet of 5 your stock would show as 100 which is 100 packets of 5 =500. I hope that is clear TED

Clive I would think its the same one, just checked the Cosford web it only shows an internal picture which I have refrained from posting !!! but it confirms it served in Cyprus until the mid 1960s, restored at Halton and presented to Cosford in 1982. Attached is a view I poached from another site, regards TED

who pushed send ??? I wasn't finished ! The athed is an early version waiting to embark post d Day. I will try & find a shot of the preserved one regards TED

Clive that is most likely the one currently in the RAF Museum at Cosford. It is of the later variety, the ones that appear to have crossed to EUROPE post D Day were on the earlier WOT1 chassis and with a slightly lower body. I believe this one served in Cyprus for most of its service life. I also believe it was a "gang of volunteers" at the then No 1 School of Tech Training at RAF Halton -- where coincidentally the RAF used to have a dental training school

Clive that has just reminded me dentist and hygenist tuesday that will be £90 out of the pension for 2 minutes look in the mouth and I have lost a huge filling dso that will be another £150 on top of that I bet that dental truck didn't cost much more to build !!! thanks for sharing the piccy TED

More sleep needed LOL TED

Clive no not a typo a bl**dy cock-up !! I took it from a tin of modelling paint I will e mail them and let them know they are on a fizzer !! I should have done what I normally do and look at my colour chip chart. Just the tin was in front of me on the desk doing the roof of a Austin K6 ballon winch circa 1950s . as you say it should be 356 Apologies cheers TED

BS 381 c tint 256 golden yellow