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Just incase some of you missed this as I posted this on another thread.I found this in a tumbled down shed local to me whilst on the hunt for lorry parts .I`ll be interested if anybody can shine some light on the writing on the end of the tank.I have the broken piece of horse shaft which is just a case of gluing back together .Educated guess in that its pre 1915 as it was originally khaki then green then brown.The pink is the original wood primer coat.

Trench system,tunnels bomb holes,dug outs, no mans land ,gun inplacements ,hessian road screen plus blown up buildings .Its all there.It was originally only for 2014 but has a stay of execution until 2018 but who knows as over the five days there was always a queue for the trench tour.

Couple more pics from GDSF. Dan posing,he wanted to be a dispatch rider Roll call Daimler Y type 3 ton and my Daimler CB22 30 cwt which got named "Baby Daimler" by the others !

The lorry had a bit of a push as we had to get it back on its wheels for Dorset which required a few evenings to get it all on a roll again.Couple of friends pitched in Simon with his sign writing and Doug the sail maker for the tilt both of which i was really pleased with.Dorset was great as each year has the habit of improvement on the last which in my opinion is brought to life with the rein actors do their bit.

For a moment after my last post I thought I was the only one interested ! Should be about 13 to 16 lorries there :wow:.

Any one going,got my pass through today for the Daimler unfortunately can't drive it as its just not finished :cry: Hopefully see some of you there.

Had our second attempt at steaming wood !First attempt went well but as it dried on the jig over the following week it kept splitting and after regluing still split so put it down as practice and started again .We decided to steam twice as much as was required because what we worked out from the start was the grain has to be correct or it just snaps,anyway here`s some pictures of my son and I making the cab roof frame warts an all.The wheels came back with new rubber which we didn`t have a choice over as they had separated from the bands .The angles for the tilt I laser cut and fabricated as I don`t have a set of rolls for angle we also added an extra board down each side to support the tilt as on all the original photos the canvas is poorly supported and bellies in.

Cost + we are a steel fabrication/ agricultural engineering business as our day job.Once its painted it will be our secret but with the new half shafts and bearings and building up the crown wheel it more than added up which would be a huge part of the decision making process if I was to do one again with the diff missing . .

Haven`t updated for a while.Changed the colour post Dorset as I realised I preferred the brown to the green . Since day one there has always been a gap in the back axle and I lived in hope but alas it wasn`t to be so new diff top casing was fabricated and machined by a friend who does this sort of work for his living as I was able to use the gears out of a CC axle I had as they are the same .Just getting ready for its appearance at GDSF wont be drivable till next year as work keeps getting in the way and have gear linkage and controls to make.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that there was a business relationship between Clarkson and Davey Paxman.I may be wrong just got to remember where I read it :nut:.

Last week saw an extended weds night (every night) as we temporarily put the back axle together wheels on rad brackets and a few other bits for its first venture out of the workshop to go camping with Dans Halley in darkest Dorset.We came away today and the whole show was coming together at a rapid pace with so much interesting gear turning up by the lorry load.

Small update,king pins reground and oversized top bushes made all fitted .Even though the Willis Knight engine is a stop gap its getting the treatment as will be used until the Daimler engine is ready.Dynamo refurbished by John as the shelac had started to crack and fall off plus the usual with the com ring being worn and the bearings shot apart from that all is well.Had a bit of luck in that a new old stock dynamo drive sprocket came up on Ebay which made another problem quick to resolve.Carb refurbished polished and lacquered, looks a bit shinny .In the process of making a new track rod as we didn't have one but we did have the remains of the ends which came to bits increadably easily .A few parts including an engine id plate were purchased from the Willis Overland Knight Owners club and were prompt in their arrival from the States which is great for something built in the 20's.The wheels are having a temporary coat of paint ( as applied by Skinny and Gadget see attached photo) and refitted to the lorry as we have been asked to take it down part done to the Dorset Steam Fair which was one of the best ever last year ,the mud was there last year to add to the atmosphere of the trenches.As i think i've said in earlier posts there's usually six of us on a wednesday night working on whatever the project happens to be. We have been doing for the last 10 yrs or more with us all being friends since school days so it makes the whole job very easy with a combined experience bank at hand.

Had a bit of luck as i managed to buy the remains of an original 1916 Daimler Knight engine which was an adventure on its own to collect but worth the effort.We've decided to treat the engine as separate project for a later date as we want to use the lorry for some of the centinary events so we will use the six cylinder Knight for the time being.One piston has a special low compression mod just in case someone has a spare . We've been making all the brackets and clamps for the body which is slowly coming together also got given the remains of an original bonnet which has taken the guesstamating out of the profile against the bulkhead which also gave me the size of the handles and beading.

Had the springs sand blasted as they were covered in a thick black paint which was difficult to scrape off in all the joints between the leaves.After blasting a pleasant surprise was the numbers and Leeds being stamped in them.We got the king pins out one evening last week after drilling out the cotter pins and putting them under the press.Gearbox all together apart from one bearing which is due in this week,had a chuckle about the oil required for the gear box as it states "thick black oil" whatever that is. In answer to the previous post we haven't got as far as filling our rad yet but we have a couple of snags to over come with ours as it is as i bought it and just needs finishing off but i think ours may contain a tad more ally LOL.

Quite a productive few evenings this week ,dummy fitted the "cab" what there is of it for the first time just to double check the fuel tank and brackets fit.On the whole we are all quite pleased with it as we are about to embark on a crash course on steaming ash to make the roof.Decided to use Sapele for the cab and body as we had experience with soft wood and sap on a earlier project and it didn't make a blind bit of differance with the knot stopper the paintwork suffered.Added a photo of John and Roy as they both had a camera shy moment as they uttered the words "go away"(similar) we have all been life long friends with many shared projects under our belts who's help along with Steve ,Ted and Tony would mean our projects wouldn't proceed as quickly.We also had to offer the rad up because thats the law and we wanted to see how and if the proportions was the same as the period photos we have.

We had quite a productive few evenings this week,all the gears cleaned and the rather nice RHP and FAG bearings came in but ran out of time to reassemble this weekend.The body is taking shape just got to make the iron work to hold it all in place.From all the CB22 photos i have i scaled the body and cab dimensions from known dimensions mainly the wheels and hopefully i'll end up with something fairly close to the genuine item ,constructive comments welcome as i'm confident all the body dims are within.One of the nice things about this project is it is all metric,of interest the original bearings in the gearbox were Swiss ,is it me but they seem to do well out of wars !.

Update,over the last couple of years i've been on the quest for Daimler parts i was fortunate to be able to buy the remains of another CB22 so i will combine the best of everything to make a good one as it were.Just after NewYear all the parts i had acquired were placed in the chassis so it would give me a feel for the missing/yet to find or make parts as my Wednesday night crew thought it would be good to have it finished for this WW1 centinary.On the look out for a suitable engine i found a 1920's 70A 6 cyl Knight in exceptional condition and just needed some minor sorting out and some poor repairs redoing.I intend using this engine for the time being and it also has the benefit of electric start :blush: .The Willis gearbox is going to be locked in top gear as it drives straight through which will enable me to use the Daimler CB22 gearbox i bought. Unfortunately the Daimler gearbox was 1/2 full of water which had damaged all the bearings but the rest was all reusable and is now in the process of strip and clean.Over the last couple of weeks we have got into it in ernest as Wednesday night usually four or five of us and saturday mornings being the lorry time.I've decided to paint it as per 1916 army colours ,i should really paint it Flying corps being ex RAF MTSS :cool2: but army it will be.I will add more up dates as and when but we intend this lorry to look the part but it will be a bitsa and it will be fine tuned and any details we can't live with will become a work in progress but with a bit of luck we are trying to get it finished for next year and its centenary.

Whilst looking for Daimler parts we came across this fine water cart :wow: initially all we could see was the very top of the tank and wheels,all very original with no signs of a pump or filter ever being fitted.The shafts also had the remains of khaki with green on top but was so flakey it didn't survive being washed down to remove the all the accumulated crud.I'd be interested on any suggestions as to what the red numbering on the side could of been as its under the green paint but over the khaki so must be pre 1915 ,maybe regiment ?

Whilst on the hunt for parts for my Daimler we came across this fine water cart literary buried in a shed :wow: on a small holding, any way deal done and got it home at the weekend.No sign of it ever being fitted with a pump or filters,the shafts did have the remains of Khaki with green paint over the top but did pull through the wash down to remove the years of crap which had built up.The red numbers are interesting which are under the green and on the khaki paint ,would be interested if anybody has any ideas.

We've just had a bit of luck,under some fossilised crud on top of the f/n/s axle low and behold the cast brass chassis plate. Type CB22 Car No 1623 List No 16166 just the r/n/s brake to free off and were ready to roll !!! ps thanks Richard you seem to know more than a bit.

Thanks for everybody's input,i think for the time being it will be given a clean and put in the shed and see if we come across a period engine and box.Out of interest have many of these survived and of these survivors are there any restored or being restored?Hats off to the guys doing the Dennis i'm up to about p33 now.

I'm sure somebody will enlighten me as to model ect of my latest can't let that go for scrap !The story was that it had a showmans living van on it which the grand-parents of the family that lived in it until a few years ago bought it in the 20's,and over a period of 80+ years grew into a bungalow and became the utility room after a succession of additions.Anyway the site was being cleared and it was mine for the scrap money so we collected it last week and i know very little about WW1 lorries .I think it is an AEC going by the wheels apart from i can't quite match the rear wheels as they are more or less solid centres with small oval holes which don't match up with any of the AEC's i've found on the web.The chassis is a laminate of steel/ash/steel unfortunatly its been cut and extended but can be returned to original spec without to much effort.On the whole it seems in ok'ish order considering where its been i think its ex army as there's traces of faded green paint under the black.If anybody can shine some light on it that would be great,thanks Duncan

Hi, I,m really into my steam ,but until last week we unearthed what i think is the remains of an circa WW1 AEC which i think i will do something with but this is early days.I know a bit about military vehicles as i was in the RAF MTSS during the 80's :cool2: and now run our own engineering business www.pittockengineering.co.uk which usually lists our latest projects (work and hobby)