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Hi Howard,
great work you're doing there.
A friend here in Hampshire has acquired what seems to be a CCKW tractor from early 1942, albeit in a terrible state, but with a great deal of it's history known. I'm looking forward to seeing his progress!
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She's looking good, fella!
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I think this is the same sort of Napier as Mark has. It does also have the hooks on the front of the dumb irons which suggests to me that it is an ASC wagon. As you say it does have the less common round spoked wheels which did feature on some of the military lorrys. I cant make out the hub on Marks one to make a comparisson though. Any chance of another photos Mark?
Hi Tim,
yes, it is the same as mine. From what I have learnt so far I think it is either a B62 or B72 (I'm not sure which of the two mine is, and embarassingly I don't know what the difference is yet!). I will dig through my pics and post a few more later today, particularly the hubs.
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Not proved wrong Alan. I just happen to have found the one photo which is different from the norm. All the other ones i have seen have the Y spoked wheels as opposed to the round spoked wheels. It does seem that they swap them around a lot just to keep us on our toes. No one has really written a history of these things. I think that is for us to do together through HMVF.
Tim
Tim/Alan,
sorry, took me so long to type my reply there were extra posts!
Alan, I echo Tim's comment, your'e certainly not proved wrong. They aren't the best documented lorry the WD had,so research will take me some time. I am experiencing a huge learning curve since November with Napiers in particular, but Great War lorries generally. I'm the new kid on the block here, and I really do value your thoughts/opinions/theories/knowledge. Its all a great help, please carry on!
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I hate to put a downer on things, but this may not be military. The miltary Napiers typically had Y spoked wheels and a flatter rear hub, such as in the picture here: http://www.napierheritage.org.uk/spip.php?article100460&id_document=100609#documents_portfolio
The style of your chassis is reminisant of that seen in many charabanc photos, such as this one:
Worth checking if the Napier Trust have chassis records or other information that would help with a positive ID.
Whatever it may have been, there's certainly a challenge ahead. Best wishes.
Hi Runflat,
if I've understood it correctly (and bear in mind I am a complete beginner with anything of this period) the larger weight categories had the more intricate style of wheels as you describe, but the 1.5 tonners seem to have had the six spoke front/eight spoke rear very plain style as per Tim's photo, which appears to be a B62 like mine. Also, a nice rear view of a couple in Bart Vanderveen's pre 1940 Directory, on page 193. I would love to see a larger version of that picture, as it's the only rear view in full military spec I have seen!
Thanks for the link to the flickr photo, I have seen that before (couldn't remember where!), it has the WD style chassis hooks, and just about all the charabanc photos I've seen also seem to have the hooks and WD spec brush guard. Most of these photos seem to have been taken in the 1920s, my best guess is that these were built on War surplus lorries?
Just a guess though!
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Looks like there's a fair bit to do so no need to rush in solving that conundrum, but I reckon you've done the right thing and you are starting with more than some folk, so good luck with the project.
Hi Roy,
funnily enough I am just about to invest in your Omnibus book, I've heard many good things about it.
As you say, there is no rush, she's safe from the scrapman's gas axe, and now indoors for the first time in years.
I have to finish my Chevy restoration (five years so far, at least one year still to go!), and then a full ground up resto on the jeep, so realistically I doubt I will even start it for five years; but I will use that time to find as much information and missing parts as I can.
Thanks for your kind words!
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Having been up many dry gullies searching for memorabilia etc. I would think that what you have is first of all a great save from the Chinese scrap steel market, a good start for a project (albiet with due respect to the difficulties due to heritage etc. to state the obvious), a better start than some we have seen in the past and generally a good basis to work from. Good hunting and I look forward to following your progress. Regards Rod
Hi Rod,
it's certainly going to be an an uphill battle, but I like a challenge!
If you hear of anything Napier related coming up for sale in Oz maybe you could let me know?
many thanks for the encouraging words
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Madness!
But the distance between insanity & genius is very small, or so I have been told!
Anyone who has the vision to turn hundred-weights of hydrated iron oxide into a shiney, living creature, that moves under its own power, has my complete admiration.
In my case I'm certainly edging nearer to insanity than genius!
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i reckon your barking mad:nut:!!! but thats got nout to do with the Napier:D. now get on with the Chevy!
Hello all, sorry for the delay replying, family outing to Stoneleigh all day!
Hi Baz, you cheeky b%%%%%%.
But yes you're right, barking mad
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A few pics to show what I have acquired!
Above, side view showing she's survived pretty well. By all accounts, there was a living van built on top, which obviously protected the chassis very well. Downside, the engine, diff, gearbox, cab, bodywork, etc were probably all removed and scrapped when this living van was constructed. When the gentleman who was living inside died, the wooden superstructure fell into disrepair, subsequently rotted and recently collapsed, revealing the chassis beneath.
Quick check a few miles down the road to make sure she wasnt going to make a break for it!
Back at the workshop, time to start studying what I've gone and done. Wooden crossmembers that had been supporting the living van removed.
So, WW1 lorry fans, what do you think, have I done the right thing?
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Hi Tim,
I will post a few over the weekend.
By the way, big thanks to Charawacky for posting the old girl on the original thread;
http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?19028-ww1-lorry-chassis-NAPIER
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Alix, I will chase those parts we discussed the other day
She's a beauty!
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I'll be there with the family Jack, you'll meet my two little lads for the first time!
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Amazing work you're doing, Dan, watching this thread with great interest.
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Alix,
given a choice of walking over to a line up of jeeps at a show, or walking over to your CA, the CA would win every time! I can't wait to see it, you need to take it to War & Peace and I bet she'll make it into at least one of the MV monthlies!
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For many many years I have wanted a World War One vehicle, preferably British. Well, despite the best advise from my Psychiatrist, late last year I took the plunge and bought a Napier chassis from a chap in Nottinghamshire, the one advertised on a previous thread on HMVF.
She is missing more than is actually there, but hey, it's a start, and it would be criminal to allow her to be lost. Chassis in reasonable condition, wheels pretty good, same for springs, wheels all turn, front wheels steer, all in all not bad.
So now the tricky bit starts, trying to track down as many of the missing parts as possible! Radiator, steering box/column/wheel, engine, gearbox, pedals, levers, etc, etc.......................
I am a complete novice on anything built prior to 1941, so any info on UK examples that I could photograph, advise from owners of anything of the period, any help gratefully received !
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Nice looking truck, Gunnar. Keep us posted with your progress!
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Alixcompo,
apologies for being slightly off topic, but I may be able to help with CA parts.
drop me a PM if you need anything
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Thanks for posting that, very cool
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Yes, Steve Lamonby, alive and well (bumped into him at Goodwood Revival last year) and still supplying vehicles for film/TV
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Great pic, posted it a couple of years ago, as they all look very new they must be the first batch 1941 Willys MB as they have the short windscreen frame.
Nick,
as they're all busy posing for the camera, you keep them talking while I unbolt a hinged filterette box for mine.............. :-D
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Wowwwwwwww :wow:
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Totally agree with the above comments, a well deserved honour for David
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Happy birthday, matey!
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WW1 Napier 30cwt lorry
in Pre WW2 vehicles
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Hi Roy,
It never ceases to amaze me the amount of knowledge that members of this forum hold!
Thanks for your reply. Your comment reference Napiers being uncommon makes sense, Bart Vanderveen quotes only 400 of the 30cwt types in use by the WD in WW1, from what I have heard thats fairly low numbers. I've also heard that Napier's total WW1 production only amounted to around 2000 vehicles, this figure comprising a few light trucks, many ambulances, 400 B62/B72, but mostly in the 3 - 4 ton range.
There are a few Napier books around, but in those I have seen the production of lorries in WW1 seems the poor relation.