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  1. From what I remember this is a Warner socket. It predates what is known as the Nato socket. If I’m not mistaken it dates back to the american ww2 system, and was continued in the UK and also in other nations where american equipment was in use. The Bofors 40/70 also had this style of lighting socket, as did towing vehicles such as the Land Rover and Austin champ, Bedford RL and probably anything which came into service in the 40s and 50s.

  2. There is actually a book (I don’t have a copy, so just know what’s online about it) written by David Morris called ‘Royal Navy Search and Rescue’ published in 2015. It does seem to focus mainly on the ‘air’ part of ASR/ SAR from what I understand although it might give you a few pointers.

    https://www.historyextra.com/period/first-world-war/a-brief-history-of-royal-navy-search-rescue-1915-2015/

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Royal-Navy-Search-Rescue-Celebration/dp/1445634635

    One snippet gleaned from wikipedia is that immediately post war, some type 2 HSLs were transferred from the RAF to the navy, so the RAF might have some information on the Hong Kong based launches at the time of the transfer. 

    I also found a write up (link below) about the author’s grandfather’s experiences in Hong Kong in the immediate post war period. Quite a read really, and there are a few mentions of an ASR boat involved in the recovery of bodies following an aircraft accident. Not directly related, I know, but quite well written, absorbing and thought provoking.

    https://gwulo.com/node/41256

    Regards

    Martin

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  3. Funnily enough, there is mention in the Foden 6x6 recovery opertaor's manual of a defence standard 25-6 with regards to towing and lifting equipment. At the moment, I can't find the relevant section on the manual so I can't say if it's relevant to the  topic being discussed. (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/519228/DE_S_FOI2016_03001___Attachment-_Recovery_Vehicle_Wheeled_GS_6x6_Foden.pdf) and I can't locate def stan 25-6, other than to say that it was cancelled. 

    I found another reference on page 38 of the DROPS/MMLC manual -

    Front and rear towing points

    173. The front bumper incorporates a towing pin and jaw, the rear chassis cross member a towing pintle. Recovery eyes to DEF STAN 25-6/3 are fitted to the front and rear of the vehicle. Recovery eyes can only be used for suspend tows. 

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/519226/DE_S_FOI2016_03001___Attachment-_Truck_Load_Handling_DROPS_15_Tonne_8x6_LHD_MMLC.pdf

  4. There is also the website www.britishjeep.com 

    I’m not sure but it could be the same people running the facebook page mentioned previously. 

    Interestingly enough, a jeep with bonnet number M5473422 is shown on the page. It’s a period photograph taken in Caen in 1944.

    https://www.britishjeep.com/jeep-in-ww2.html

    Just scroll down and you’ll see it.

    The RLC museum have most, if not all the keycards for british used jeeps. They can even do a search using just the chassis number, so who knows, you might get lucky, and your jeep might be the one shown in the picture.

    http://www.rlcarchive.org/VehicleSrch

    A word of caution here. The chances of your jeep being the same one in the picture on the british jeep website are infinitesimally small. However, I see no shame in the bonnet number not being original. What you have is after all a survivor, which at the same time is paying tribute to people who, willingly or not, in quite a lot of cases, made the ultimate sacrifice and of those who did not, many carried the trauma to their dying day.

    If your bonnet number is original, congratulations. If not, it’s your vehicle, so good luck with the search!

     

    kind regards

     

    Martin

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  5. 7 hours ago, minidaffy said:

    We think it may of been 24v but it's certainly not anymore, I'm a bit short on clues at the moment as I've only been sent pictures...he does have the army reg number but it doesn't come up with anything at the rlc archive.. cheers for the info 👍 

     

    Q

     

    8 hours ago, lozzaboy said:

    If it was a 24v FFR then the oil cooler was standard fitment.

    Correction. All military spec series 2as were exactly the same in external and internal fittings except for the electrical systems, which in the case of FFW (early 40amp 24V) and FFR (90amp) had the radio charging parts added on. The FFW had one external fitting different from all other landies, this being the 'toastie' grille to protect the selenium rectifier. 

    Of course, GS were 12 V, with the FFW and FFR versions being 24V. The oil cooler was part of the standard fitting regardless of whether it was 12 or 24V. The oil cooler carried on being fitted in the series 3 GS and FFR versions but only in the lwb since there were no series 3 GS swb landies, only CL versions, which were exactly the same as civilian swb versions, apart from some addons, such as towhook and trailer socket. Ruxy can chime in here with the exact details of these CL landies.

    With the advent of the coil sprung landies in 1983, all long wheelbase contracts for leaf sprung landies being fulfilled at that time had the oil cooler, gauge, and front bumperettes eliminated, although the military bumper with holes for the bumperettes was retained.

  6. What a lovely find, and in such an unmolested state too! I wish you luck, and will follow this restoration as it progresses. Two things which occur to me are these:

     

    1. How many pieces of wood does it take to keep a Merc up in the air? I just cannot believe that the whole shooting match is still holding together! This could be due to my second point-

     

    2. Is the Merc also resting on a carrier of some sort? I can see tracks, a bogie, and what looks like side plating in a couple of the pics, but it's not ver clear.

     

    In fact, that barn looks much larger than it first appears. I wonder what else there is in there!

     

    Best regards and I will wish you a happy new year, although I'm sure now that you have this Militant, you must have a grin from ear to ear!

     

    Martin

  7. Hello All

     

    Please can someone tell me what cross member, standard or military, for a 1959 series 2 swb ex military Land Rover.

     

    Thanks Nige

     

    Military series 2s, as opposed to series 2As did not have the military rear cross member. There are a couple of good photos in the link attached.

     

    However, I am basing this info on the date you gave. A certain pointer is the other details as shown in the shortcut link pictures. If the fuel filler is an original side filler arrangement, with only a single tank, rather than the dual tank arrangement, that would help ascertain whether or not you need a military or civvy type crossmember. Land rovers go through numerous mods during service, and after, so determining what is original and not depends on accuracy of date of production, and close inspection of what you have. Some pics would certainly help.

     

    http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?38179-RAF-Land-Rover-tilt-colour

  8. QUOTE from the DM.

     

     

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    Now look at the rear of the car in photograph background , seems post WW2 design , therefore photograph later than the stated - 5th of May 1945.

     

    In a way looks something like a Renault Dauphine ?

     

    Yep, never knew the FSO Syrena was produced in wartime:rolleyes:

     

    Speaking of photographs, did anyone notice the warhistoryonline item on the train? There's a photo mentioning a second, missing train, which shows a soldier in american uniform in it. Wasn't missing for very long was it?

  9. From my own personal experience, a request to the RAF Museum with just the chassis number will yield the VRN, if the vehicle ever was in RAF service.

     

    Mine is 95103788a, date in service 24th July 1974, and I can confirm that the original colour was Blue gray. Of course, there is a very small possibility, if the base colour was Bronze Green (that was the colour of the ones ordered by the army and marines), that it might have been originally army/marines and then later taken over by the RAF. This is a very remote chance, I repeat.

     

    If you want to check the original colour, if the landrover has never been taken apart,look at the underneath of the seatbox, and if that fails, try splitting the upper and lower bulkhead, and check underneath the rubber strip.

     

    Regards

     

    Martin

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