Rover8FFR

Dan based upon the avalanche or replies I am not holding my breath! We can hope something might turn up in time.

Watch this space as they say

Well done Andy

 

 

 

Congratulations Andy.....Twice on the bounce is pretty good going.......Setting the standard to all us other PIG owners.

Fantastic and well done.....

You look deservedly smug

My Humber Pig is believed to be ex 4th Guards ('All seeing Eye') and I wonder if any pics of this APC are available of them in use in Germany where mine was believed to have been posted. TBC!

Apart from the odd picture here and there the majority of in service pics are in all in Northern Ireland.

If anyone has any it would be great to view / share them just from a different perspective of military use.

Ideally when in use through the 60's as mine was struck off in 1967

Date in service 4/12/53

Delivered to 31st ‘B’ Vehicle Depot Church Broughton

Receipt Voucher No. CBR/R/4454

Converted to FV1611(A) 1959-60

Struck off 9/8/67 OSDD Ruddington

Sale No. 93

Lot No. 718

Cheers

has put me in touch with an outfit called Paladin Trucks in the states.

That a bit more than a mornings drive from Tewkesbury??

I have a 1975 Mitsubishi Model J26 Jeep which is based on the CJ3-B (M909?)

 

5 years ago if I'd of known how rare this thing is I probably wouldn't have bought

it but then again I wouldn't have had so much fun.

 

Engine is a 2.6 Ltr petrol 4G53 4 cylinder ASTRON.

Gearbox is 4 speed with a Hi/Lo box and, to get it above 50 without the engine exploding, I've had a Warn Overdrive fitted plus 16" rims.

 

Aparently the J20 series were used for Shore Patrol work in Vietnam but as mine was made in '75 it's very unlikely to have been anywhere other than Japan and here. It was imported by Colt UK which makes me think it was only ever a "civillian".

 

I look forward to learning more about Jeeps from the same era and hopefully finding a solution to a gearbox problem. I've already posted the question in the American vehicle forum.

 

Cheers,

Bern

Welcome Bern, but had you bought a UK based vehicle you may have been able to pilther assistance from Ashchurch depot ...I used to work in Tewkesbury some years back. Lovely place. I remember the Black Bear fondly!

Still listed in 1986 as available, but obsolete....saw two at Beltring today...one a very good size 5 for £20....maybe I should go back and buy it ??!!!

 

Best go visit your local Army cadet hut....they've probably got bales of the things sitting in the loft.....

Doubt it as most Buckshee kit is raided by the Qm staff when they do monthly visits etc

would the Reserve Forces and Cadets Assn (RFCA), who have a lot of real estate, be able to take it over and house it as a trust or custodian funder

Gary

Not a chance there as all MOD arms affected by cost cutting. Cutbacks gone thru the TA and the ACF in the same way.

I have loaned my working Clansman 352 to my local ACF County to allow them to continue with Signals tuition. All the other MOD owned kit was taken back under instruction by QM.........

It doesn't matter which wing of the MOD it falls under it is all being hit hard even the RFCA........

Sad state of affairs when commissioned officers loan personal kit back to MOD...........:nut::blush::blush:

Robin

I was going to use the bulkhead for my #2 Rover 8FFR 24v rebuild as footwells suffered rust damage etc.

Are you suggesting the plates are of value to a rebuild or the whole bulkhead...?

I know where to go if mine pack up now!:cool2:

What a nice Dizzy u have there Mike........Luverly :cool2:

Aquired a spare 2a windscreen with 24v Lucas wiper motors. :-) and also a spare Bulkhead from an MOD 2a

Also a nice pair of Larkspur ATUs

Whilst doing a bit more on the chassis strip, namely removing rear axle, springs, shocks etc I killed a little time while the heat and oil worked into the spring hanger bolts etc by removing some of the asphaltic, bitumastic slop off the underside of the rear tub with a heat gun and scraper.

What I noticed was, that apart from the underside of the body being painted DBG, the under body support rails were also.

I have seen so many threads where they are removed, cleaned and then re-galved as part of a restoration. Thinking they were all like that from the factory I was surprised to see paint underneath (pictures to follow)!

Going back to the spring hanger / shackle bolts and I suffered on one fixing the same as the front when I removed that. Both ironically on the drivers side.......Bolt seized solid into bush! Heated and soaked for about half an hour. Left it and came back and nothing so had to angle grind the chassis to release the spring / axle complete.

Also the shock absorbers appear to be a genuine LR item as painted dark blue with a rectangular label / sticker about 100x50mm. Are these standard shocks still available by this manufacturer.....Did try the compression and rebound stroke and they are even and no signs of weepage on the rams when fully extended do may just rub back, prime and repaint, or given the cost I would surmise cheaper to replace????

All that remains for chassis now is to remove rear bumprettes and lifting eyes, along with mudflaps / brackets etc and hack up chassis for scrap man.

Looking forward to getting the replacement chassis in on tressles and then the build up can commence...Yey!

Hope whilst I was in my dry warm garage the LR fans out there that ventured to Billing didn't get to wet......No doubts threads to follow.

Bob

I agree.........Hindsight......I wish I had the rights to that, bottle it and sell it to the world.....

Could of retired a loooong time ago. Also bought a massive barn to house a massive MV collection.

Didnt most people convert to 12v when they had failures with the 24v systems and back then it was cheaper to convert than preserve / repair.......How times have changed!

The purist in me says GS are possibly the hardest to find. Collectors ignore them too easily so they are the ones that fall unloved and get broken. Considering how few GS vehicles are known to exist, compared to the FFR variant, then it amazes me that collectors still say GS are worth less and should be used as spares for the more common FFRs. GS variants have a place on the show ground. They are military vehicles, and were designed (in the case of the 2a) to be capable of having FFR kit fitted if required.

 

Prices vary greatly. I miss some gems do to not knowing they were there or having funds. I payed over the odds for my FFR wreck, but did so because it was so complete and un-molested.

Very fair comment ferret1958uk. I guess the Rover8FFR owner in me is slightly biased. I must confess looking at all the registers that circulate on the web these days, that I was very much under the impression that the rover 8 & 9 24v vehicles were much rarer in numbers than a 12v GS. Certainly a Rover9 24v..........:shocked:

They say that the S2/2a landrover is the sweetest of them all and with that different grille they just stand out (to me) as a real sweatie. That grille certainly prompts lots of questions when out and about.......The grille however did make 'bush' BBQs less straight forward as it sat behind the square section protection.

I guess this thread has identified that we all have our affections for military vehicles in all sort of fractions and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Added to that if somebody wants or needs something desperately enough then the average price pales into insignificance.

I know over the years I have had some real bargains and sometimes paid a premium for 40 amp spares. But I am just glad that I aquired the majority some time ago as they are a lot less common now. Whereas the 90 amp set ups are ten a penny by comparison due to volume of production in late S2a / S3 and the Lightweights / 101s etc.....

Also starter motors, dizzies, coils, filters and plugs are interchangeable so I guess its just that 40amp Gen set, rectifier and control box that are the unique and very rare electrics.

There is no bench-marking of prices , people with vision will pay a premium according to the possibilities. There is a steady demand for the Rover "Marks" , the better examples will always make good money. Often the person who sells understands what he is disposing of, likewise more so the buyer understands all (probably more than the seller) and will often pay more for a unrestored example than one which has been "restored". Valuations on vehicles deteriorated / specialist bits missing can still make good money if they are marketed in the right way. If a person has no interest & just wants shot quick without breaking for eBay then they could be sold for scrap price , but there never seems many bargains turning up.. eBay has made it a National / International market.

 

In my case - I drifted towards newer S3 in particualr Lightweights when they were being disposed of, now I am retired with more time - I consider the S2A military marks a better project BUT as yet with too many projects uncompleted.. So the younger ones with a interest will still have a fight to obtain the limited supply.

 

Regarding "Toast-Racks" , somebody had 2 qty. new on eBay about 2 years ago, BIN £30 + P&P , I decided not to risk & did the BIN deal (on account of if I had to fabricate and have galv.) - the other only had one bid & made £15 + P&P..

Thanks FT.

The toast rack grill is the easy part and could be easily fabricated I guess......All the working early 40amp gubbins behind that grill was my case in point...Rectifier, 40amp Gen, Control box etc..All the heart and soul of a pukka working Rover8 24v. In essence the 'Toast Rack' Land Rover.

All too many old Rover8 24v have had those items removed and replaced due to rarity and expense of replacement. Even a 90amp Gen modified to a 40amp vehicle would be more appropriate, but again not genuine. It is that genuine and exclusivity of complete vehicles / spare parts that in my book makes then a little more specialised and therefore command higher values.

I agree with what you say about the specialist versions of a S2a etc

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms">after a bit of digging I find that a Landrover 8 is in fact a Series 2A.... is that agreed?.......<BR>.......I can only go general prices around my area and it doesn't make any differance whether ex military or civilian around here to be honest..........the bottom line is .........a SWB Series 2A in bits and needing work on the bulkhead isn't worth anymore than about £250 quid tops.....<BR>.....and I wouldn't pay that..<BR>the last ex-military SWB2A I bought (18 months ago) had an excellent chassis and the bulkhead was good too......not running but was more or less complete but in a mess and a long, long way from being back on the road.......<BR>...... I gave £100 quid for her....<BR>like someone said.........its all relative to who wants her but around here a rough old Landrover ain't worth a lot at all........</SPAN>

Noted Bob but I would dispute the above values with the very best of respect Mon Ami, especially regarding a functioning& complete 40amp Selenium rectified Rover 8 24v.

A pukka running 40amp Rover 8 is becoming a very rare old beast indeed. Parts are becoming even rarer for the old Toastie Grilled Rover.

I know of a couple of 24v Rover 8's recently in varying condition, but both needing different levels of work going for between £500 and £1000. They were both bought up very quickly. Lots of them have been converted to 12v and still waer the toast rack grille, but are not complete and genuine.

I have owned my EK for six years and EL (Yes one of the Rover 8s referred to above) for only a few months and have noticed how few of these old toasties crop up that are complete and un-butchered regarding the electrics.

In the last 6 years I have only ever seen 40amp electric items up for sale once or twice. (Generator, Rectifier and Control Box). 90 amp kit is ten a penny due to volumes of S3s produced and still out there.

I agree with your comments for a 12v GS as basically that is a tweaked civi landrover, so would command similar values, unless it has an interesting history back from Deepcut.

Any other Land Rover gurus agree with my perception / opinion or is it just that.....My Opinion??????

Ruxy / Clive what do you think?

I ended up buying a 'Webtex' one for those little emergencies with C95.

For most serving personnel, if you weren't issued items you tended to make up your own Gucci kit list anyway.

Comfort and personal admin being key drivers as to what extras you aquired along the way, whether it be sewing kits, Sporks, Speed Spoons, Pocket Rocket burners, Micro Petzl head torches, extra pouches and compartments added to Bergens and of course the add ons and alterations to your belt kit. The list goes on and depended upon your role or trade!

This could all of course start a new thread on Gucci kit and personal additions and the like.

Swift and Bold.

You are essentially looking for this on the chassis rails. Mine is on the nearside.

Get a key type disconnect, stick it through one of the holes in the battery box. You will need to drill 2 holes for the bolts and buy a couple of short leads to connect it up. I've had one on mine for 10 years and never had a problem.

 

Chris

This is the way to go. Also a good anti-theft deterant!

In the good old days the customer was always right and he had the benefit of the doubt.

Has society now created this attitude where the honest paying customer is treated like the con man?

Your damned if you do complain / raise a concern and your damned if you don't

Andy keep up the hard work matey....Looking Gooooood :cool2:

Carefull if Hayley reads that mate ! She has been known to visit the War and Peace Show and may hunt you down ! :-D:-D:-D

Just as well I cannot make it but Clive probably will............I would have hidden behind Ashley Prior anyway. :angel:

All the best mate.

Wow ! Thank you all for the kind words ! I'm afraid Hayley has banned the Humber from being included in the service but I can't complain as she has never moaned about having my Scammell as a garden ornament ( well maybe a little bit ) Thanks again , its what makes this forum such a pleasant place to be the very nice people on it ! Regards Andy :-D

Banned the Humber but Happy to stare at the Scammell thru the curtains..............

Clive we need to meet Hayley.........................!

Mind you is it a question of looks or size.................Ooooops Sorry, but it just fitted in nicely!....Enjoy your day matey!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

Sorry this started as a question on Camo and now we are onto 432s and swimming gear.............NBC?????

You swines you have overpowered my thread on camo........FOR A LAND ROVER!!!!!!!

However if it all ads to the Aden livery debate..........Crack on!..............:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D

Andy

As a fellow 'Grunter' owner I want to wish you the very best and I hope the day and indeed the rest of your life together is fantastic.

Will the FV be wearing a ribbon and rumbling down the road then???

Have a tremendous day.

Best wishes to you and your spouse.