Marmite!!

Nice to meet up with all the faces from the forum who were there and I look forwards to doing so again in the future - hopefully with my own vehicle next time!!

If I missed saying goodbye to any one please accept my apologies and pass them on acordingly, I was late in leaving to pick up the daughter mk 1 and didn't have time to do the rounds.

 

Was a good day for me and I thoroughly enjoyed myself!!!! Thanks to everyone there!!!!

Just for you Neil, even if you did turn up on foot :wink:

Vehicles built before January 1973 are Tax exempt.

 

When changing the chassis, for example on a Land Rover, the vehicle would still be tax and MOT exempt, it does not need re-registering.

 

Chris

here's the full requirements for re-builds:

75. Where there is sufficient evidence of the original identity of a vehicle, it may retain its original mark if the application is supported by documentary evidence and is authorised by one of the historic vehicle enthusiast clubs.

76. However, there may be instances when a vehicle has been built as a faithful reproduction of a classic vehicle, using parts which have been sourced from more than one vehicle.

77. In order to qualify for registration as a Reconstructed Classic, the completed vehicle must comprise of all genuine period components, of the same specification, all over 25 years old. The vehicle is allocated a non-transferrable, (this does not prevent a registration mark being transferred onto the vehicle) age-related registration mark and the date of manufacture is based on the youngest vehicle component. The vehicle will qualify for exemption from vehicle excise duty if the components were manufactured prior to January 1973.

78. The historic vehicle enthusiast clubs play an important part in this process as they have to verify that all the components used in the build are over 25 years old and are of the correct specification.

79. The Reconstructed Classic category generally relies on the honesty of the applicant and the integrity of the enthusiast club in allowing these vehicles to be registered with an age-related mark rather than a Q registration mark. The vehicles are not physically inspected by DVLA.

80. The objective of the inspection for this category of vehicle is to allow vehicles which are built from parts and purport to be ‘classic’ to be registered, whilst providing consumer protection.

It will be easy to spot Lee (safariswing) he will be the one running around like a loony playing event organiser at the nuclear bunker show, and I'll be doing much the same thing at the gunpowder mills show :lol:

 

http://www.millsmilitaria.co.uk

http://www.royalgunpowdermills.com

& blowing things up :twisted: it's ok we should have about 30 cadets & the TA to help out now..

Rob,

still got to play with your steam engines on the 20th?? see you on the 21t??

Larry,

have a look at these two MOT exemption forms

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/forms/pdf/V112G.pdf

http://www.direct.gov.uk/assetRoot/04/00/95/92/04009592.pdf

Also look at this thread:

http://www.hmvf.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=742&highlight=mot

Road Tax Exemption:

Exemptions from Vehicle Excise Duty (VED)

The law requires any mechanically propelled vehicle that is used or kept on a road in the UK to pay VED. Schedule 1 to the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 (as amended) prescribes rates of VED. There are exemptions from paying VED and these are contained in Schedule 2 to the 1994 Act. The main exemptions are:

Old Vehicles – vehicles constructed before 1st January 1973 that are not used for hire or reward or in connection with a trade or business.

Fire Engines/Fire Service Vehicles

Ambulances and Health Service Vehicles

Mine Rescue and Lifeboat Vehicles

Vehicles for Disabled People

Limited Use Vehicles – vehicles used for the purposes of agriculture, horticulture or forestry that are only used on public roads in passing between different areas of land occupied by the same person. The distance travelled on public roads between two such areas of land must not exceed 1.5 kilometres.

Tractors/Agricultural Engines

Agricultural lift and loading vehicles

Since 1st January 2002 an additional category of vehicle falls within the Agricultural Machine Taxation Class (Tax Class 40) and attracts a nil rate of duty. To qualify for this additional category there are certain criteria. Vehicles must be:

Designed for off road use; and

Designed to lift and load; and

Used solely in agriculture, horticulture or forestry.

Please note that digging machines will not fall within the scope of the Agricultural Machine tax class.

Mowing Machines

Steam Powered Vehicles

Electrically Propelled Vehicles

Snow Ploughs/Gritters

Trams*

Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycles*

Pedestrian Controlled Vehicles*

Even though the above vehicles are exempt from paying VED, they are still required, by law, to be licensed and registered on the DVLA vehicle register (except those annotated *). For further advice you should contact your DVLA Local Office.

Tony,

you will be able to see it at the Bunker in May, I'm sure it's the same one that's booked in to the show..

Incidentally - something I forgot to ask earlier - any one know a firm/individual who runs things like earth moving kit down to East Sussex way and who might be interested in picking up a 9.5 ton back-load if returning empty????

try Dez Northover airdez@dezair.fsnet.co.uk lowloader, & MV owner, he might be able to do it on a back load..

Neil

 

A lot of banks/lenders will not deal with anything Military related the worst being the Co-op..

Cheers Lee - will bear that little gem in close mind!!!!!

How about just saying "Historic Vehicle" - think that will go down OK???

Just say it's a vintage truck or get a home improvement loan...

Neil

A lot of banks/lenders will not deal with anything Military related the worst being the Co-op..

Hi,

does anyone know of a truck/trailer mounted 40mm Naval Bofors???

Thus far the best interest rate is with Northern Rock so lets hope they say yes!!! Fingers - and everything else - crossed!!!!

Don't tell them it's for a MV say it's for a car..

 

To return to the V112G topic, I’ve been looking at various DVLA documents, and it would appear that if my post-1960 truck, exceeding 3500kgs mass, not towing a trailer, being a ‘mobile project vehicle’

It has to be registered as a "mobile project vehicle" you can't just call it that..

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Richard,

pity your not bringing the FH70 to our show, got some special pyro's that sound like a real FH70 firing, you could of joined in the fun.

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Nor those with permanent 6 wheel drive Chris :twisted:

I though yours only had 3 wheel drive & only goes forwards :wink:

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Funnily enough - my first ever copy of the MVT magazine popped through the door today - in it was a registration for the W&P show and this said, AFAICR, that all vehicles must have 3rd part off-road cover whilst there.

 

Ths must mean such cover is available - I guess from some one like Road Sure - if so needed????

MV insurance includes third party off road cover as part of the policy..

 

If they could never get an MOT would that make them un-insurable? Is cover available just for MV shows but not for the road?

A lot of MV's are MOT exempt..

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I think you need bigger pennants :wink: :lol:

I own 32BA77 the earliest Ferret

Hello Lee,

That would be No.3 then? According to my notes, I worked on 32BA78, No.4, back in 1980. Also just noticed about the same time, also worked on a Saracen, 32BA24, that must also be an early one.

Richard

PS had a look at the Saladin yet?

Hi Richard,

Yep hull No.3 that's mine..still serching for an in service photo of 32BA77 I have found photos either side of my Ferret's number but not mine.

We are tackling the Saladin on Friday if our mate has moved his lorry by then, he's parked next to the Saladin & there's trees on the other side so we can't traverse the turret at the moment..

Had the Fox out at the weekend & the gearbox is still A1..Cheers

safariswing I bought a sterling mount off that guy with the early ferret, I think his name is chris, mine could have possibly been in the same batch.

Mick.

:? I own 32BA77 the earliest Ferret, Chris McMillan's Ferret if that's who you are refering to is a bit later.

I also bought a Sten mount from Chris when I first got my Ferret..

look out guys the walls have ears and eyes BEWARE

it's ok Im safe, I'll just button down the hatches on the Fox :lol:

John,

if Stuart isn't coming you know what that means, we won't have the Teas Maid either:wink:

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Square hatches mean early vehicles built as straight Mk 1 or Mk 2, usually with BA registrations.

 

Chris

Er isn't that pretty much what I said?

;o)

This is a Very Early Ferret, Hull No.3 from the first contract of six.. 32BA77

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We could probably sort out some outside storage for you not a million miles away from you, I'll check it out tomorrow, we will know this week about the other storage we were talking about..

Interesting range of views

 

Primary reason for asking - of course - was to get a feel for the best wat of getting a prospective purchase home. Works out at £96 of fuel to get home unaided - possibly £300 on a low loader. Sorely tempted now to drive it home given the reports on performance and reliability from the current owner.....

Why not do a deal with the seller where he delivers (drives) it for a fixed fee & you give him a lift home, if it's as reliable as he says he shouldn't have to much of a problem with that..

hi all,

we always drive with at least 2 vehicles because if one breaksdown help is at hand even if its just to tow to a safe place to try and sort it out.many hands make light work or at least 20 to push a dead saracen!!!! :lol:

as for range trying to not completely knackering yourself through driving is always an advantage but if its weekend rather than a day i'll go a little further.

the drivings the best bit!!!!

What do you mean, IF one breaksdown, surley you mean WHEN or are you leaving Kevin's Ferret in the garage from now on :wink:

if you keep spreading these rumours i'll set the wife on you!!!! :twisted:

Ok you win, I'm not that brave. :wink: