Marmite!!

Surely its the same with two people or 15 people, normally only one person is insured but if it's on private land then insurance is negated to a certain extent :dunno:

 

Yes but the test is taken on the road, isn't it :dunno:

Weather looks like it's going to ok, so they say :dunno:

Headline:

Evening rain clearing then a mainly dry night. Windy.

 

This Evening and Tonight:

Rain this evening, perhaps heavy for a short time, accompanied by strong, blustery southwesterly winds. However, the rain will clear away southeast leaving most parts dry and clear for much of the night, winds easing to allow temperatures to dip. Minimum temperature 3 °C.

 

Sunday:

A much brighter day in prospect with a good deal of sunshine, although this becoming rather hazy at times. Feeling cooler in quite a strong and blustery southwesterly wind. Maximum temperature 10 °C.

 

Updated: 1526 on Sat 13 Jan 2007

Coalhouse Fort picked up their donated Green Goddess today from RAF Scamptom :-D

Andyroo done it with his friend see below

 

Hi all,

 

I took my class H with a friend of mine in June last year.

 

 

Yes Mark read that but that was just two people, what I am saying is if we have a large amount of people how we going to get round the Insurance part??

How long does it need to be :whistle:

 

Don't, you two will start Neil off again.. remember http://www.hmvf.co.uk/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=49&topic=2680.msg20992#msg20992 :evil: :evil:

Anyone bringing some rope this time, just in case..

Can halftracks be driven on an ordinary licence :dunno:

This is where I need some clarification, if we higher a mini digger.....it would be the same test as if we were to do it in a tank?

 

 

Below is the minimum standards for a test vehicle, I can see a problem with insurance if we hire in a digger for the test. If we hired a digger how would we fill in the hire form so that it showed that all of us were insured, normally to hire a vehicle you have to have a Full licence for that class of vehicle.. also the same problem if we had a MV on loan to us.. the Insurance would have to show everyones name with provisional licence entitlement.. :dunno:

http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/vehicleowners/specialistvehicles/specialistvehicleclassification.htm

Specialist vehicle classification

Three or four-wheeled light vehicles - category B1

Agricultural tractors - category F

Road rollers - category G

Track laying vehicles steered by their tracks - category H

Mowing machines or pedestrian-controlled vehicles - category K

Specialist test vehicles

Unsuitable vehicles

The condition of your vehicle

 

 

 

Types of Specialist Vehicles

The following vehicles are classified as specialist vehicles.

 

Three or four-wheeled light vehicles - category B1

Motor tricycles or quadricycles in category B1 have:

 

three or four wheels

a design speed greater than 50 km per hour

an unladen weight of no more than 550 kg

These vehicles may be designed as a small car with car-type controls or a motorcycle with motorcycle-type controls. You must be 17 years old to use a vehicle in this category.

 

Agricultural tractors - category F

Agricultural or forestry tractors:

 

have two or more axles

are constructed for use as a tractor for work off the road in connection with agriculture or forestry

If you want to drive tractors on public roads you must be at least 16 years old. At 16 you are restricted to a tractor which is no more than 2.45 metres wide and only driving on the road when travelling to and from a driving test appointment until you’ve passed your category F driving test.

 

If you are driving a category F vehicle in Northern Ireland you may also drive at 16, when engaged in the course of agricultural operations, on any road which is not a road where the maximum speed limit under Article 50 of the Order is 30 miles per hour or less.

 

At 17 years old you can drive any tractor and you can drive unaccompanied on the road displaying L plates, or D plates in Wales.

 

Road rollers - category G

Before you can apply for a provisional licence for a category G you must have passed a test for a vehicle in category B.

 

At 17 years old you can drive a road roller:

 

with metal rollers

weighing less than 11.69 tonnes unladen

which isn’t steam propelled

At 21 years old you can drive other road rollers. These include rollers:

 

which have pneumatic, resilient or elastic tyres

that weigh more than 11.69 tonnes unladen

that are steam propelled

Track laying vehicles steered by their tracks - category H

Before you can apply for a provisional licence for a category H you must have passed a test for a vehicle in category B.

 

You must be at least 21 years old to drive these vehicles.

 

Mowing machines or pedestrian-controlled vehicles - category K

Mowing machines are specialist, ride-on, grass-cutting vehicles with permanent cutting equipment.

 

A pedestrian-controlled vehicle is a powered vehicle where the operator walks with the vehicle, and does not ride on it. This vehicle is not treated as a motor vehicle, so you will not need a driving licence to use one.

 

You must be 16 years old to drive these vehicles.

 

Specialist test vehicles

It is your responsibility to make sure that the vehicle you are going to use for your practical test is legally roadworthy and has a current MOT certificate (if required). The vehicle must be fully covered for use on the test and for you to drive.

 

Your examiner will ask you to sign a declaration that your insurance is in order. The test won’t be conducted if you can’t do so.

 

Your vehicle should also display:

 

a valid tax disc

L plates displayed to the front and rear (or D plates in Wales if you want)

L plates should not be displayed:

 

on any windscreen or back window where they could obstruct your view

where they will cover any lights or indicators

If you do not comply with these rules your test may be cancelled and you could lose your fee.

 

Unsuitable vehicles

Your examiner will check that your vehicle is suitable on a practical driving test. The test cannot be conducted if the vehicle:

 

is operating on trade plates

does not display a valid tax disc

is carrying any loose items which could fall off

has damaged lights or indicators

has broken or missing mirrors

is carrying any load

could be a danger to other road users due to damage

is fitted with an item of equipment which may cause a danger to other road users

has such a poor view that you need another person to help when carrying out manoeuvres or at junctions

is in category B1, where the examiner travels in the vehicle but he or she can’t see clearly behind

The condition of your vehicle

Your vehicle must:

 

have clean number plates and lights

not be carrying a load, or be partly loaded

not be towing a trailer

not drop mud or any debris on the road

Your vehicle must also be mechanically sound. All equipment required by law must be fitted and working correctly.

Jack (Dorset)

richardrosser (Kent)

Mark (Kent)

Neil (Essex)

John (Essex)

Lee (Essex)

You have to go one better, don't you :roll:

 

Well I thought they just might of cleared the Accident on the london bound at J2 by Sunday :tongue:

Here's the motorways in real time, put your cursor over the little boxes..

http://www.trafficengland.com/map/browse.cgi?X=550000&Y=150000&width=500&height=300&client=tcc&srec=0&coordsys=gb&scale=2000000&currentChk=checked&trafficChk=checked&vmsChk=checked

For those coming down from this way (Essex or thereabouts) I heard on the radio tonight the M20 is closed for Kent Polices "Operation Stack" - apparently the Froggies are on strike. Again!!

 

 

Didn't have a clue what you were on about until I checked it out :oops: for anyone else who doesn't know what "Operation Stack" is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Stack

Correct me if I am wrong Lee, but I think they are only allowing the one flight and then it goes into a museum somewhere, not sure.

 

From what I can see they had three dates booked subject to serviceability.

17 June 2007 - Falklands Flypast http://www.tvoc.co.uk/diary/default.asp?date=17/6/2007

30 June 2007 - Waddington International Airshow http://www.tvoc.co.uk/diary/default.asp?date=30/6/2007

1 July 2007 - Waddington International Airshow http://www.tvoc.co.uk/diary/default.asp?date=1/7/2007

WOW :schocked: :schocked:

 

I stand (or sit..) corrected - I am suprised and delighted that one of the old girls will be airborne again but I have to admit I never ever thought the CAA would be allowed to give one a ticket.

 

It's so nice to be wrong!!!! :-) :-) :-)

 

Not forgetting XL426 just down the road from us which is being restored..

Yes it is supposed to be flying in a dispaly this year somewhere in the UK, I am sure I saw this on the news

 

Yep.. http://www.tvoc.co.uk/

2007 will, of course, be a memorable one for the project; and, given the sort of good fortune it surely deserves, it will see 'your' aircraft safely restored to its natural environment - and, once again, thrilling the millions who watch it at air displays or in transit to and from them.

So is an airsoft SA80 a realistic replica?

 

Yes.. if it looks like the real thing without close inspection..

(2) For the purposes of this section, an imitation firearm is not (except by virtue of

subsection (3)(b)) to be regarded as distinguishable from a real firearm for any

practical purpose if it could be so distinguished only—

(a) by an expert;

(b) on a close examination; or

© as a result of an attempt to load or to fire it.

(3) In determining for the purposes of this section whether an imitation firearm is

distinguishable from a real firearm—

(a) the matters that must be taken into account include any differences

between the size, shape and principal colour of the imitation firearm

and the size, shape and colour in which the real firearm is

manufactured; and

(b) the imitation is to be regarded as distinguishable if its size, shape or

principal colour is unrealistic for a real firearm.

(4) The Secretary of State may by regulations provide that, for the purposes of

subsection (3)(b)—

(a) the size of an imitation firearm is to be regarded as unrealistic for a real

firearm only if the imitation firearm has dimensions that are less than

the dimensions specified in the regulations; and

(b) a colour is to be regarded as unrealistic for a real firearm only if it is a

colour specified in the regulations.

Deacs are not part of the VCR Bill & have been left out.. The firearms section of the VCR Bill deals with realistic replicas..

And on sunday it will be 15 weird HMVF members Mark.

 

Do we all get to sign the canvas :-D

Hi lee

Yes put us down for 2 jeeps .

last year was a very good show and well attended considering the weather

Steve

 

Cheers Steve.. done..see ya there :-D

For me it has to be this... another squatter :roll:

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Sounds reasonable to me ;-)

Lets be honest - the odds on it being where it is, unsold, by June/July, are on the wrong side of non-existant. ;-)

 

So it's Stuart and JT on the MV sub-committee now, yes?

 

No just John.. Stuart is still spokesman for the MV Owners, the MV sub com.. is a new thing, JT & two com. members.. it's to iron out a few issues some of the Com. have with the MV's.. Stuart wasn't there last night so JT got the short straw, anything you need bringing up let JT know..

Sorry for highjacking this thread.. :oops:

 

What happened at last nights meeting??? You've got me curious now!!

 

Not a lot, JT was volunteered on to the MV owners Sub-com.. & it looks like that the Fort has all the MV's it needs at the moment.. got to remember Neil that they have other events there that are not MV related & they need to have enough room so they can be stored out the way..

Dont worry Neil, ill bring a tub of Vaseline ;-)

 

Watch out for those Brighton boys :shake: :shake:

Yes - and I know who's got one for sale too... Suppose it's hoping too much that it won't be sold by the end of June but one can only cross the fingers... ;-) ;-)

 

Better look for storage first Neil as it looks as if the Fort's now at max capacity for MV storage after last nights meeting..

Actually - thinking about it - they probably refer to vehicle owners as "<censored> <censored> idiots", after all - who in their right mind bys and maintains a vehicle not really designed for work without a full base workshop to call on??

 

"Walts", usually, is a term applied to those who dress in uniform with badges of rank and decorations etc. and pretend to be what they are not...

 

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