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FINALLY I've found the :argh::argh::argh: photos! Knew theywere here somewhere.
Well worth the wait. Thank you very much for posting these brilliant pictures.
It'll be interesting to find out if this Constructor is still surviving and, whether or not, it's the same one that Radiomike once owned.
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An imaginative use for another one of the batch of 0859 Militant RAF tankers was this conversion to a dustbin lorry!
It's also been fitted with the more conventional 14.00x20 tyres and wheels.
I saw this one operating in Glasgow in 1987, but I'm not sure how long it lasted in this form.
Blimey, you've been about a bit mate ! Thank you for posting more wondrous Militant 'photos. I can only assume the operator of this dustbin lorry was hoping to recruit Militant enthusiasts as drivers, to work free of charge, just for the pleasure of driving a MK1 around all day. I would have done.
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The standard Mk1 bumper is recessed in in the middle which makes it harder to couple on to a trailer and significantly reduces the available lock when suspend towing with an A frame. Maybe these were modified to make it easier as they are training vehicles.
The towing hitches look standard, they have just rotated. One's upside down and the other is on its side.
Thanks Graham. I inexcusably forgot that these earlier gun tractors would have originally had a recessed towing pin and, as you correctly say, the lorries in ekarecker's 'photos have been modified to accept the swiveling type of towing jaws that you see on the later MK 1's. I'd not seen this modification before.
What they would have been like originally.
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If you enlarge the lower 'photo of an obviously restored gun tractor you can see what appears to be the same modified front bumper, and towing jaws, as in the top picture. Both vehicles also have a spotlight mounted in the same place. Personally, I've not seen a spotlight mounted on any Militant in this way before. If you think the 'lollipop' type flashers are fitted at unequal heights on the lorry in the top picture, as they are on the one in the lower picture, then this could be the same vehicle. Or, just one of a batch that were all modified in the same way.
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These two 0860 Militant 6x6 Artillery Tractors went through Aston Down MoD auctions in 1993, very late for these type. They were latterly used as driver training vehicles.
A friend of mine bid for and won Lot 356 which was a non-runner caused by a broken gear linkage rod between the gearchange unit and gearbox (suprise-suprise!)
When I went to collect it, I took another rod, bolted it into place and drove the Militant on to the low loader.
Ekawrecker, thank you for posting these two wonderful photographs. That 'fresh out of MOD auction' look is the look that I'm always trying to recapture with my lorries. I wish I could have been there to help you bolt on the replacement rod. Both of these AEC's appear to have had work done on the lower part of the cab doors and 01 BP 28 seems to have had a plate welded on the front bumper. It also doesn't appear have the usual type of towing jaws fitted.
What did your friend do with his Militant ? Was it converted into a recovery vehicle as so many of these gun tractors were ?
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I'm pleased to hear you like RL's. Once so commonplace and now looking so exotic. I saw this one at North Petherton on New Years Day but I've no idea whether it's for sale. Good luck with finding a nice one.
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hi 6x6 has one got a leyland 680 in and the other one got a gardener in:)
How did you know that ?
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Have seen reports of snow on the continent in Belgium, France,Spain and Italy as well as snow moving north west across Great Britian .........quite a event , They said here that this is the worst winter in 18 years in Britian .
And irrefutable evidence of global warming.............. :confused:
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Hey Steve, welcome to the forum. Do you know the chassis number of your Matador and anything about it's history in the military before it worked in the woods ? There's plenty of Matador experience and advice available on this forum and, if you wish, you can start a your own thread in the restorations section on the link below. A few 'photos of your AEC would be very welcome if possible. Cheers.
http://www.hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/forumdisplay.php?f=22
It only hurts when I laugh.
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So far a very disappointing couple of inches......... it makes me cheated when I read some of the other posts. :-(
Early afternoon today.
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Nonetheless, if you are down wherever you keep your vehicles one day and are happy to let me have a little look.
Looking forward to meeting you. PM sent.
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They're now in BA3 and you're very welcome to visit but only if you're a complete nutter. :cool2:
Sorry, I meant to say....... you're very welcome to visit but only if you're a bona fide historic military vehicle enthusiast.
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Hi 6X6, I wish I had known. I am in BS37
They're now in BA3 and you're very welcome to visit but only if you're a complete nutter. :cool2:
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Unfortunately his speed/distance calculations were somewhat out and the steam loco ploughed into the side of the Scammell, removing the front axle but without de-railng the train.
Somewhat out ? It might have been just about excusable if the train had clipped the rear of the trailer but to take out the front axle of the tractor suggests this bloke was miscalculating on a grand scale. Agency drivers.
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I am hoping that a moderator will move it, as I do not want to take up too much space.
Ok, I will it on there and maybe the mods will scrap this later, I looked to see if one was on line, but apparently not.
The reason I suggested posting your Constructor post on the 'Constructor' thread is that it's hot stuff and people interested in Constructors won't think of looking under "It's Will from East Sussex" and might miss it. That would be a shame. Kind regards, Tom
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Thank you for your reply. If you have any more photographs, or stories, about these Scammells maybe you would be kind enough to post them on the 'Scammell Constructor' thread in the 'Transporters and Wreckers' section.
Here.
I see you just did. Thanks.
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Hi again. I believe the gear Maze as I called it, was standard and mounted on brackets to the floor.
Yes I did get to drive it, but only a couple of times, and much to the chagrine of the Plant Sargeant, who tried to keep it for himself, I think the driving position gave best public display of his brilliant white chevrons. Ha ha
Thank you for your reply. If you have any more photographs, or stories, about these Scammells maybe you would be kind enough to post them on the 'Scammell Constructor' thread in the 'Transporters and Wreckers' section.
Here.
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but there is probably something on line, which I will search out for you.
That's very kind of you to offer but there's already a bit about them on here. Please see link below. It was your personal experience of them that would be of more interest. Thanks.
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Hi, yes, this was a Scammel Constructor RE. It was paired with a Tasker 20ton low loader, and designated for plant vehicle transport in a Field Park Squadron.
Thanks very much. I didn't know these lorries were used by the TA. Did you ever get to drive one ?
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And here is another from the 1960's TA Days
Can you tell us anything more about this one ? Cheers.
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This photograph was taken about 10 years ago in the yard in Bristol where I kept my lorries. On the left is the ex Roland Simonds Militant MK 1 Cargo XVS 199, in the centre is the ex Laurence Davison Constructor YFO 311 and, still in snowplough red, the ex Ted Gowen Constructor YSV 865.
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It needs a new rope for the winch drum and the crane wich. Hardly a big job but it does seem to take quite a lot or rope.
Forum member Antar may have a winch cable available but whether it's the correct type and length I've no idea.
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I'm sorry to read that you have had these undeserved set backs. In my experience the most prevalent human quality I encounter is incompetence. It seems to be everywhere and I have an endless fund of similar stories to yours. When asking for something to be made I always provide good quality drawings, or a pattern, and talk through the job until I'm sure, I hope, that what's required is completely understood and they STILL cock it up. It's unbelievable.
Not in every case, but fairly often, the problem stems from the job being passed on from the person one originally discussed it with to the person who actually does the work. A sort of 'Chinese Whispers' takes over but how can that be case when there are drawings, or a full scale pattern, to follow ?
Mike, you will prevail but no one needs all this aggravation.
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Jimh, thank you so much for starting this already wondrous and totally enthralling restoration thread. I'm sitting back in my most comfortable armchair and can hardly await the next installment. What about a daily video update at around teatime ?
There was someone offering lubrication suits for cats. I'll post the link as soon as I can find it.
A bit like this but smaller and with a hole for the tail.
Scammell Constructor Gallery.
in Transporters & Wreckers (All Nations)
Posted · Edited by 6 X 6
Is that the same reg.no. as the Constructor in post 379 ?
FV11301, Thank you for a timely and interesting post, Reg No. is HFO 990 on both lorries.