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Bryan - I'm confused now (not difficult to achieve!). The airfield construction units when under RAF control were called Squadrons (e.g. 5002 Sqdn). When they were transferred to Royal Engineer control I thought they became Regiments. You guys (who were there) talk about Squadrons within the RE - is that particular to the airfield units only?
I had dealings with the RE ADR lads in Germany -( Bruggen then Laarbruch) we used to look after their prestocked plant which was in air conditioned dry clad bags !! yes big plant in huge rubber bags.
Turning back to WW2 my dad was RE when he was in 15 Div which was an infantry Div his unit was 279 Fld Company, when he was posted to & Arm Div his was in aFld Park Sqn.
During my time in Germany all the RE I dealt with were Sqns X number of Sqns belong to a Regiment; i.e 39 Eng Regt is comprised a number of Sqns. Now if you really turn the clock back- The Army used the title Sqn long before our once great RAF was thought of !
hope that helps
TED
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Thanks for that link I had no idea that was happening, possibly you have already tried but I used the word Palestine in my search on LoC and it gave some great results.
Thanks again
TED
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Ted- I suppose for clarity i should have said I know them as the armed/unarmed tender, or something similar. I am aware the Library of Congress has a number of RAF Middle East photographs in its collection, but it's one of those things I mean to get around to looking at and never do! I shall head over there promptly.
take a flask but watch out for the border guards, most if not all the useful L of C shots are on FLICKR now.
can I ask how you got the shots you posted I have tried all the usual routes on the internet into the RAFM collection.
take care
TED
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Here is the picture with the aerial erected, so a wireless truck it is. These Fordsons were preceded by Commer Raiders, a Morris and RR mounted tenders; I think with some of these some were specifically termed wireless tender. A fancinating era .
TED
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Great shots thanks for posting, now according to the bible its a Fordson 79 truck 30cwt 4x2 Officially known as Armed Tender Type F; On the RAF M site there is a pic of one in Manger Squarte and one also appears amongst the library of congress shots. I am a little concerned about wireless bit as there was an armed and an unarmed wireless tender I am sure I have seen a picture and it has more poles and bits and pieces to form an aerial I will have a dig -- have you seen the library of congress shot ???
TED
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You don't need an FOI the info is freely availible; the record cards are at the RAF museum Hendon. If they have the card they will copy it for you for a tiny fee. Go to their website phone the number or go to their website and e mail them and ask if they have the card and if so request a copy, the normal charge is about 24 p per sheet +p&P aome cards are just 1 sheet some run to 3 or 4. But be aware a percentage of cards are missing. good luck
TED
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you can just make out the fixture- the driver screwed a short flag staff into it. On lease cars they have a magnetic base !
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Is the roundal 4 inch dia approx ?? if so its a car pennant for station commanders of Wing Commander and above.
Saluted it many time !!!!!!
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I wonder if that shot was at RAF Cardington ??
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53AM78 I think that might be the nearest to yours - go to FLICKR do a search using RAF mountain rescue loads of series Landies several AM reg lightweights but not in your batch. some wonderfull local conversions for the DMRT lads in the middle east !! warning get a bug mug of tea before you start !!
In the meantime back to the 2A see attached
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Thanks Ivor. I've seen that first shot before and to me the tilt looks grey. I'd imagined that grey was the original colour or it had started off blue/grey and faded. No disputing it's khaki in the second photo!
I also think its a scruffy grey ! re the khaki and white hot weather tops, they were locally made in GEF , Canvas came in a range of green /khakis on 4ft 6inch rolls . the white was LPO .
TED
ps although this is a Series 3 L/weight I had to share this shot !!
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As you are aware , the webbing & duck colour was available :-
Documentary evidence of hoods available by way of Rover / MOD Parts books & literature - not so easy for me to come by. RAF (in service) - photographs are not easy to come by , esp for Lightweight
We were issued with B/G webbing of 37 pattern when I joined as an apprentice in 64
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It was possible (certainly with the RAF and I would assume the Army too) to have the base colour as Khaki Green, No 3 as usual but to have the disruptive pattern painted in Light Green, No 5. I assumed this was the look they were going for here?
Ted - unfortunately, I have yet to uncover a photograph of the recovery Matador. I've only come across a reference to it in a history of 51 MT, but it's been something I've been keeping a special eye out for.
I would suggest the colour and pattern are from the era before we had the knowledge base we now have?
re the Matador with 51 MT I will revisit the items in my cuttings box might get lucky On the recovery subject I found mention in a magazine article that 317 Suppy & Trans Column had an Austin breakdown Gantry, the article was centred on one of the fitters and he notes as tail end charlie when the unit moved out of Hamburg he had trouble keeping up with the main body
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69AA79 tilt has not been emulsion painted , if it had - then the duck would be same colour as the seam tape ,,,,
then it is as supplied in a canvas to match RAF blue grey ??
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Here we go lads its a Series 2 or 2a this is how the tilts looked with the blue grey emulsion; hope this helps
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I guess the Mens & Boys would be to do with the size range- I was 15 when I joined a little skinny dwarf !!
TED
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Have these got rubber buttons on the cuff ankles and down the front, i joined 64 we had blue / grey and green, some had rubber buttons some had big brass press studs- fantastic overalls, proper overalls which gave protection to oil spillage and had some warmth to them; and could be worn in the welding/ blacksmith shop without fear of melting !!
TED
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Exactly; you mention 51 MT Co have you a pic of Matador Rcy with them.
returning to the original message there was very little ground wise in BoB that was accurate even the colours were wrong.
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I was just wondering if anyone knows the history of this very distinctive QL tanker. The was a little plaque inside which tells us it was used in the film Battle of Britain. I am wondering if this would have caused a few issues of continuity as the QL was not in mass production at this stage. Anyway, your comment would be most welcome....
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QL bowsers did apear in the film BoB come to that most of the vehicles used in the film were not in service until well after the BoB and some such as the Matador artillery tractors never served with the RAF.. There is overwhelming photo evidence that few if any vehicles were still in blue grey by the BoB If you think the Film BoB is bad try looking at 633 sqn !!
TED
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Mostly in Mid East but one did end up at Tengah post 1946, Many soldiered on well into the 1950, about 10 of them had the tanks removed and fitted to Austin K6 bomb flats . Been searching for years for a rear view for a model
TED
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HI STEVE
The answer to your Question about the renumbering of matadors it appeared to have happened between 1951 and 1952
a number where converted from YY numbers to RD and RH numbers I can not find any referance as to why this happened
REGARDS
WALLY
My understanding which I have read in many articles & books : in 1949 the Army & RAF went over from H12345 set to 11AA22 format, ARMY vehicles that would remain in service until the end of their expect life got a reg pair from near the end of the alphabet, vehicles that were rebuilt for longer term retention got an RD etc number; So I would suggest this vehicle was allocated a new VRN on rebuild- there may well be a rebuild plate on it somewhere
TED
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On the back it says "LAMPS ELECTRIC NO-JL LTD"?
That's all I can find mate?
Bill.
sitting at £3.74
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Are there any markings, the ones with that handle are normally ARP/Civil Defence lamps ??
ted
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I was on holiday last week so didn't have any access to books.
According to the September 1944 edition of A.P.1086 42Y/2 was"500w A.C. portable test set, J.A.P. 4B engine"
Do you by any chance have section 33A for that period please, I have tried Hendon and their reply was no !
TED
Air Field Construction CAT D6
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Blimey that may well be so, I was jan 79 to jan 82 2 and a half hanger was GEF's home;
TED