wally dugan

HI IVOR

I would refer you to what i said at the start the only reference i could find to the number 17 is the one shown i checked

all war department books on unit serial numbers and could not find the number17 mentioned again these books cover

all aspects of units including the ones you mentioned while i will state i have no way of knowing if any more original information is out there up to now no one has come forward with a original document to prove me wrong those who

know me well know that I have a open mind on the subject if you or any one else can provide that fact i look

forward to it up to now all we have are personal quotes by original I mean one written by the war department not by

some one after the event as i have been told these books contain errors on this forum

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regards wally

HI

ON the number 40 you correct as well as others but please show me original goverment period documentation

for 1939 to1945 which I have sent to cyclone303 This is not the first i have been questioned about what I have said the first was on the subject of bridges plates it was said l was flying in the face of what was accepted it was only confirmed when another member of the forum posted a copy of the document i refered to so show me the number 17 on a original

document and if I am wrong I will say so on this forum

wally

HI IVOR

I have several books written by the war department covering the period 1939 to 1945 on vehicle markings and unit

signs in all of these the number 17 is on a blue background not black it does appear after 1945 on a black background

this has been confirmed by Chris I also have gavin Birchs book and all the picture are in black and white not colour

I have sent Chris copies of these documents which he now has and Iam sure if he reads this he will confirm what I

have said further more after 1945/46 unit numbers where reallocated I also have the amended books 1946 through

to 1960

kind regards wally

HI

I can throw some light on the fate of some of the vehicles when the museum closed in 1989 a small number where on

loan from the MOD these where recovered by a local army unit one a Humber Pig reg 30 BK 09 went on to have a short

but interesting life I still have the original file details

regards wally

sorry should have said if the ferret was left in neutral the pedal would be near to the floor it would normally come up when a

gear was selected in most cases 2nd to move off

wally

HI

what I would do is select 2nd or 3rd gear as far as I remember leave in forward or reverse but make sure its engaged

in one or another stamp down on the pedal several times and see if the pedal returns back to the upright watch for it kicking back its worth a try all the best

regards wally

HI

SORRY you are correct it is gear change pedal not a clutch pedal had a senior moment but it is not as bad as some of the things I have heard it called oh happy days

regards wally

Hi

just a thought have you selected a gear then operated the clutch pedal when neutral is selected the pedal sits flat on the

floor if i remember rightly

regards wally

HI

In answer to your points

what was the original question it was what are the shipping diamensions not what are the general diamensions which is what you are working from i said that went for the mod document after looking at all three and as barts and mark

cooks only refer to the general diamension and did not even agree on that you have pointed out that lenght 12 ft

i said the same height 6 ft 6 I said 6ft 8 a differance of 2 inch lastly width i said 6 ft 6 you say 5ft I respecfully suggest

that the shipping diamensions are for a different purpose and requirement

regards wally

HI

I have just rechecked all the data and i have misread one number height should read 6 feet 8 inches but that is all thats

wrong and at least i admit it

regards wally

HI

Try page 176 i also checked BART VANDERVEENS i for data and then went for the largest sizes which are the mod ones

these relate to shipping and not what i think is right

regards wally

HI

71 AW 65 IS A RAF REG BEST BET FOR INFORMATION IS HENDON

regards wally

HI

A few years back i spent time at LANDROVERS LODE LANE plant on the SOUTH WORKs there was the remains of wartime

camouflage also at the CASTLE BROMWICH JAGUAR assembly plant there was also the remains on a building of camouflage

do not know if they are still there

regards wally

HI

just remembered that all the air portables that came in to our workshops mostly where fitted with 6 x 50 x 16 tyres as

standard very really did we ever see any fitted with 7x50 x16 tyres

regards wally

HI

THE details I posted came from mark cooks book half ton and shipping details used by 47 air depatch as the question

was about shipping I think that is agood referene

regards wally

Hi matt

DETAILS of series 3 air portable Landrover

LENGTH 12 FEET

HEIGHT 5 FEET 8INCHES WITH HARD TOP

WIDTH 6 FEET 6 INCHES

REGARDS WALLY

HI

IF you want it to look factory fresh it would be black we had one in a display case a present from AEC to be used for

instruction dated 1943 to go with our Matador

regards wally

HI

I have followed this debate about the engine colour I started working on british military vehicles in 1965 and still involved

with them what richard has said is correct the name Duck Egg blue is widely used but to be correct it is called Sky Blue

Regards wally

HI

THE Bedford MWT is Listed in the 1944 ministry of supply book of wheeled vehicles it states that it has a similar body to

the GS with detachable superstructure and seats for personnel

regards wally

HI

The LVT we had at the Museum of Army Transport was a MK3 during its rebuild we found its cenus number pre 1947

and its post 1948 number which was in the ZR range a fact confirmed by Bovy so the British Army had one MK3 and i

suspect more the one we had l think came from Framlinton and a picture ot it appears in WHEELS and TRACKS sited

there before it came to us

regards wally

HI

l see what is said about the number 17 on GENERAL HORROCKS jeep the information came from two original dated books

one dated 1941 headed vehicle markings the second one 1944/45 headed vehicle unit signs written by command of the

army council in these books the number 17 is allocated to field sqd re on a blue back ground so l would ask the following is the picture in colour or black and white is the jeep General Horrocks and not one he was using supplied by his hosts

all my working life l have only used information that can be confirmed by use of original documents like many others l have read books written with good intent containing historical mistakes and l am happy if someone can prove me wrong and will admit it

regards wally

HI again

Just looked up vehicle unit number 17 in my book it shows that it belongs to a Field Sqn Royal Engineers and would

be on a Blue background

regards wally

HI CHRIS

To answer your questions generals stars in the british army are silver look at any picture of MONTYS ROLLS and Humber

staff cars I know because I look ed after them for 20 year and still have some silver stars in a box some where

thanks for the pm if you send me your address I will photo copy the pages as side I would go for the 100

Iam waiting for a new scanner

regards wally

The British Army used the LVTs during The SUEZ crisis in 1956 there is footage of them in use in the IWM archives in LONDON we had a working LVT in the MUSEUM OF ARMY TRANSPORT

IN the book formation badges of world war two only one badge is displayed the one you described for 30 corp as to Headquarters serial numbers you have a choice they are as follows HQ AND HQ COY the number 30 HQ DIV AND HQ COY /SQN the number 40 lastly CORP HQ the number 100 I hope that this does not confuse you all these are as you say are on a black background this information comes from document vehicle unit signs north west Europe 1944 /1945 hope this helps