wally dugan

HI

just being lookin for more information on the MACK LMSWs and came across a picture in BART VANDERVEENs book

FIGHTING VEHICLES DIRECTORY world war two page 85 a NR 4 loaded with a M3 STUART LIGHT TANK it is also fitted

with a condenser like the ones in the pictures and looks to be fitted with single tyres all round

REGARDS WALLY

O come on BRYAN

Just sat in the garden with a beer l think what you say about the NR4s is right in the last lot of paper work sent to me

there is a section on american trucks used by all three arms of service also a list of light tanks the heaviest being 18 tons

one of the book l searched was the TM 9-2800 series of books but could not find a mack type 86 mentioned the EXBX is mentioned several times once stating that it could carry a tank up to 18 tons THE mack LMSW is rated at 15 tons and is

6x4 what l say about the NR4 EXBX AND the LMSW all come from a war department data book date dec 1945 covering

all vehicles still in service with army navy raf at that time

REGARDS WALLY

HI SIMON

I have found pictures of the 10 cwt trailers made by the canadians in ww2 there seems to be two types of bodies

one constructed of wood and one of metal there are three pictures of each type with text on function dimensions

weights references and discription of body

REGARDS WALLY

GOOD AFTERNOON TED

I have just seen your pictures of the MACKS they do look like NR 4s but I am not good on yank trucks I have looked

through all my reference books including FRED CRIMSONS wheeled military USA vehicles and all british data books

without any luck but l know that on the forum there are people with more knowledge on this subject than me

REGARDS WALLY

HI SIMON

In the book I mentioned there is a plan of the chassis layout and all the tec details in all I have eleven volumes on

every thing Canadian manufactured during the second world war found them in a skip after a clear out of offices at a

MOD site I will have a look through them all to see if there are any pictures of the trailer other than the chassis lay out

if you want any copies we will have to see how to get them to you as this computer and I do not get on

REGARDS WALLY

HI SIMON

I have just looked at volume Vll of my design record candian Developed Military vehicles WW2 titled TRAILERS

There appears to be a few small differences between the British and Canadian 10 cwt two wheeled trailers These volumes were issued by ARMY ENGINEERING DESIGN BRANCH

DEPARTMENT OF MUNTIONS AND SUPPLY OTTAWA CANADA eight titles on all CMP WARTIME EQUIPMENT PRODUCES

up to1945

REGARDS WALLY

I think its a bedford oyc water bowser 3 tonner as oyc chassis tended to be used see vanderveens book on bedfords

pages 41/ 42

HI BRYAN

Could the MACK be a NR 4 it was rated at 13 ton but I cannot at the moment find a MACK rated at 15 to

REGARDS WALLY

Interesting just a thought was the BRIDGE CLASSIFICATION a direct copy of the army one warts and all with no amendments The QLT I can understand as a personal carrier the STAGHOUND AIR FIELD DEFENCE may be

HI MATT

First welcome nice bikes had two in my care one fitted with a side car both army and un touched as to deepcut giving

only the army reg number 01 EN 18 I wonder how they came up with that it is right for a ARMY TRW but if they found that

out they must have the form 419B If so that would tell you abit of its army service history and when and where it was sold

as it may not have been sold at RUDDINGTON What information did you give them

REGARDS WALLY

HI LAUREN

If I remember right ammeter needle flickers

1 inter mittent short circuit or open circuit between dynamo cut out and switchboard

2 internal fault in dynamo

3 fault in cut out

I HOPE THIS HELPS

REGARDS WALLY

THATS what happens when you try to sell it you frightened it in to curing its self

HI PETER

I agree with your comments on age on photographs but it also applys to colour cards I was very lucky that lived near to

mr Gerry Barton who owned a company called The HUMBER OIL COMPANY who made amongst other things paint for

the WAR DEPARTMENT during the war and kept lots of original colour cards and orders and they kindly let me copy what they had as you say a fascinating subject The name Humber Oil Company may not mean alot to some but I bet the name

HUMBROL does

REGARDS WALLY

HI

I think the debate on the right shade of wartime paint is one which I think will go on and on the problem seems to be there is a lot of I think about when really we are not sure most of us where not even born when these colours were being used

yes there are colour photos about which are a great help yes there are books on the subject and as pointed out with mistakes written years after the event most are used as source of reference without any way of it seems proving for

sure one way or other they are correct AS I said in a earlier post I have being collecting paint samples and Data for

many years on this subject and do not feel that I by any means no the answers also I was in a better position than most

to do it these are my thoughts on this subject

REGARDS WALLY

HI GORDON

I seem to remember that the three wheel in line prototypes used a whittle belt drive system the one we had was

a TRIUMPH 1926 REG MK5626

HI PAUL

Good Question if you find the answer you will have the whole museum world beating a path to your door for what its worth

having spent 20 years working in small and national museums A must is get your vistors involved wanting to have repeat

visits simulators are a good means to do this also visitors must be able to interact with the displays childern are a must

I was once told that if the kids are happy so is mum there fore hopefully dad can enjoy his day

ps make sure you have got lots of money

REGARDS WALLY

HI

IVOR to what you said about the colour of ammo boxes we had a large number of them from the second world war

which where what we thought where service brown these boxes contained the POLISH GOVERMENT in exile archives

during the war these where British army issue when samples were taken and tested it turned out that it was not

service brown but what I can only say looked more the colour of milk chocolate and not the slightly darker shade

which I expected

REGARDS WALLY

HI

With reference to post number 142 having looked though a Data book 1945 which lists all types of tyres fitted to british

and common wealth wheeled vehicles and equipment and looked at all the pictures of tread patterns I am sorry to say

there is not atread pattern anything like a AVON TRACTION tyre as you would find on a series Landrover

REGARDS WALLY

HI SIMON

This age old question when I was at The MUSEUM OF ARMY TRANSPORT in the early days people would ask the same question what is the right colour so as i was in a postion to collect paint samples from period equipment i did as well as

paint lists from war department and mod suppliers from 1900 up to the present details from manufacturers like ROSE &

CO of LEITH as well as others over the years one thing I found out was no two manufacturers produced identical shades

of the same colour so ask for a sample first they will be glad to do this if there any good so you get most important what

is right finally over the years people involed in paint making asked for a copy of the lists as one day i hope to complete it

I have seen books on the subject of military paint colours and at times wonder where and how they got there information

as some of the colours look nothing like samples i have seen on untouched items

REGARDS WALLY

Well RICHARD that was my next guess so here goes is it a TAC MARKING

IT looks like the symbol used on military maps for Logistics and admin

Is it to do with the three main religions at that time HINDISM BUDDISM and SIKHISM and the cast system

IVE GOT IT they are mobile traffic lights for when there is no electricity

as it is pre 1938 is to do with identifing a vehicle in a particular role

is to do with sickness