wally dugan

DAVID that is indeed sad news l got to know BILL first when we met and found that we had a connection with DALMUIR he with the CONQUEROR when he worked  there and later when he became involved with the K&WVR and the need they had for railway plans and information  to help with the restoration of rail equipment that was housed at BEVERLEY

WALLY

The chieftain that was at ELVINGTON  was  a prototype the  end user was to be in the middle east 

when you say data plate do you mean a   ministry of supply data plate with a post war number ie  OO RA  27 or a contract plate ?

you are  asking a question that dozens of  owners of wartime built vehicles ask and sadly the honest answer to it is no you might get a bit more from the data plate but even so it will be not much

BRYAN as some one else on the FORUM found out he was told that they did not have the records  for his vehicle in his case But after he then got back in touch they found the information l have no faith in the RLC MUSEUM because they cannot think out side the box unless it is on the computers they just stop

in the file on allocation of numbers  1945 -1949 is addressed to ministry of supply contracts dept  CAXTON HOUSE { WEST } TOTHILL STREET SW1 it has thrown up a interesting number of things which will need referencing with the 1944 CHILWELL LIST the KEY CARD LIST and  the new Chilwell list 1945 /1949 all l now have

l WOULD like to make a suggestion go back and ask the RLC museum about the railway squadron history ledgers these were at BEVERLEY they  will hold the answers to your questions . Two ask the K&WVR if they took any of the railway records as BILL BLACK  used to visit and get   copies of the loco drawings and other items Three if these fail to help get in touch  with the  NATIONAL ARMY MUSEUM and ask where these item are or WHO has them. Sadly there were three people  who could have given you chapter and verse  on  any thing to do with military railways   Major tubby ROBINS  chief instructor LONGMOOR and Staff basil SANDERSON the first person to drive RORKE'S DRIFT both shunting clouds god bless them and one other who was commandant at LONGMOOR

At this moment in time the answer is no l have reasons which l am not going into but have been touched on 

CHRISTMAS  came a bit early this afternoon a  parcel arrived totally unexpected from a friend of over forty years who was in the military first a file of letters this is a copy l have deleted the the name who it was sent to but  it also had a number of references to wartime motor cycles  mainly contracts and manufacturers. There also was a Chilwell list   of which l had a few pages before  this covers the period 1945 to 1949 and continues from the well known  1944 it  is a large document and from a quick glance answer some of the things that the 1944 CHILWELL  does not explain or cover in depth

yours 13 BK 56 was recovered from GRANGE CAVERN  by 119 COY REME based in  PRESTATYN north WALES not to far from LIVERPOOL  As to  30 BK 09   OR  is that   27 BK 39 was the question but the reason for all the interest would have made a bloody good film  ?

 I checked the loans file for vehicles lent to the GRANGE CAVERN COLLECTION a number of vehicles were lent  by the RCT via THE MUSEUM OF army transport including  HUMBER PIGS the one that has the most interesting history is 30 BK 09 which in 1991 was the subject of great interest by the MOD

if it did once  reside in the grange cavern collection  it may be the one lent by the RCT HISTORIC COLLECTION is so then it did  have a interesting history after it left grange cavern

l think its the wording in the exemption no substantial changes to chassis body and engine which may apply

The pins/clasps Call them what you will should push in and there   should be a hole for the wire do this without the bulb  fitted the bare wire can be soldered for better grip / reason for suggesting solder  on the bare wire is to hold the strands together 

JOHN l have some drawings of 120 conqueror in1/72 scale but cannot say l have seen any for the ARV but l will have a look  over the next day or two for any ones of stowage drawings

wally

When you say loading do you mean on to a trailer there may be one in the FVRDE FILES if my question seems daft l was once asked about shipping weight which l thought for loading on vessels but it turned that the person in question meant some thing different

 In the new box there is a folder of british tank stowage diagrams as l said a number of key card no2 some of which are on the lists of the ones held by beverley and the RLC some of which were not on the lists compiled while at beverley

strange as it seems some one else mentions the difference in ratios on the subject of ROTINOFFS on this forum in 2008 august in transporters and wreckers  ANTARMIKE

all  l know what l have read on the subject also l suggest that you ask  in a more polite manner

As said both used KIRKSTALL axles but the ROTINOFF used a different ratio to that fitted  on the ANTAR

RICHARD  the middle and rear axles both suffered the same wear this happened at 7,000 miles the gear box failed at 2,000   the list is quite a long one

The wear reminds me of AUSTIN CHAMP crown wheel and pinions worn down to a razor edge 

these are from the ROTINOFF ATLANTIC TRIAL and just one of the reasons it was rejected

If l understand PAULS   questions he has the vehicles but not any information either in French or English manuals or other wise

PAUL its on the first page of the thread report FT/B 989 ON the  three ton 4x4 8KT