antarmike

Abdul took every opportunity to point out what fine ears "Harvey" the six foot white Rabbit Pooka had,,,,

Point taken!

Sorry If this picture has already been posted, if so let me know and i will remove it. Also sorry about the poor quality, its a picture of a picture, no more details.

 

regards

 

M

World's first 50 ton Wessex!

By appointment, Marcus Glenn is always worth a visit

 

R

That is a bit of a detour!

Thorpe Camp between Woodhall and Coningsby.

Battle of Britain Flight Hanger, at RAF Coningsby

Well done

Mike G6SWO

or a genuine Falklands Eager Beaver....

I have a number if 1" BSF eye bolts eyes as fitted to Ergo cabs AEC/ Leylands etc, Routeman Trunkers and various buses. Anyone into Rally field recovery may come across a stuck bus, You need these in your tool BOX!!!

Grab a pair while you can get em see classifieds....

Hi, not far from me, welcome..

Call that Stealth,!! The radar might be able to see Nighthawk, but the bl00dy thing is over there!

sometimes you really could really do with a crane, couldn't you!

The first spotlight was part of the Centurion MBT kit, 1960s.

Second lamp is I believe champ, Ferret at one end right up to Antar at the other end of the spectrum

Why is it then that Motorhomes over 3.5t are classed as PHGV when clearly they are not goods vehicles? Most of the Motorhome websites say the same thing..

 

 

 

 

Also.. http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-road-tax.shtml

Motor homes can be either Living vans or Motor caravans according to C and U definitions, A living wagon has living accomodation but also has the facility to carry some goods. These are probably the Motor homes to which this refers, I don't know for sure...

The gun dog needed some help to find the Pheasant....(but it was now in a thousand pieces)

I reckon that as taxation classes now exist Fox is PLG. It has no revenue weight (presumably) so is not a Goods Vehicle, any goods vehicle has to have a revenue weight, either determined by Maximum vehicle weight permitted under C and U or based on a Plating Certificate.

PLG is Private / Light goods,

Ie Private vehicles or Light Goods Vehicles.

It is not a light Goods vehicle.

It is a private vehicle ie one which is used for “private” (non-trade or business) purposes.

The 3.5 Tonnes max only applies to Goods vehicles with a revenue weight.

Agreed, but I believe its taxation class should be PLG as they must have been first registered before 2001 and can therefore fall into that class - see Post 17.

 

Andy

Suely PLG only applies upto max weight of 3.5 Tonnes

Have a good one...

I dont think it is (is it designed constructed or adapted for the carriage of goods)

We have I think been here before and seem to think Light Locomotive, i am sure someone will be along shortly to help me remove completely the lid of this can of worms.......................again!!

It is a light Locomotive, but that is a construction and Use Definition, not a taxation class.

It cannot be registered or taxed as Light Loco, it is just what it is....Simples

Okay, you shoot it down, but I still reckon I could Lasso it!

Also looks Eager Beaver

Not quite an exemption but a derogation to the regulation It states

"Vehicles used in connection with sewarage,flood protection,water,gas,and electricity maintenance services road maintenance or control,door to door household refuse collection or disposal,telegraph or telephone services, radio or television broadcasting and the detection of readio or televisiontransmitters or receivers"

Doesnt mention evasion of licence fees only the detection

Agreed it doesn't mention Evasion, but surely this is clearly the group of vehciles to which this applies..

I am trying to be helpful, if the derogation is for a particular type of vehicle, and if a person believes his vehicle fits that type, but it doesn't then it is helpful to point out what the intended group or type is. It uses the word detection, not receiving. surely it must be shown that a vehicle is equipped to detect, rather than to receive....

I would suggest the vehicle would need Radio Direction Finding equipment, not test gear to fulfil this purpose.

Also the derogation is for the Current use, not the pupose for which the vehicle was originally used, or how it has been fitted out, or what equipment it carries,. To use this derogation the operator would have to show his use of the vehicle at the time, was in connection with the detection of radio transmitters (ie finding their location) , not driving to a show, to be parked up in a line...

Bearing in mind this is military equipment, and it is illegal to monitor Military radio traffic, and if the gear is being used to listen to Military traffic, it opens up another can of worms....

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Still trying to work out horses as pets, that's a good one

 

I *think* we're ok here - we drive the Bedford (taxed as Private HGV) with a fitted box on the back full of test gear. Although it's owned by the company and not being used for carriage of goods, as I understand it we would need a tachograph. Luckily we fit into exemption 7 as it's built for the detection of radio or television transmitters or receivers...

Stone

I think you will find that exemption relates to Television detector vans and the like used for catching evaders of Television licence payment. And vehicle trying to trace un-licenced transmission, amatuer radio people transmitting on un-authorised frequencies, illegal pirate radio stations, radios being used to transmit on, or recieve Police message, for the purposes of carrying out a crime, with a view to closing them down and prosecuting the operators.

You used to need a licence to have a radio receiver, that is why they are also mentioned. I think to call your vehicle a "television Detector van" is a bit far fetched....

Not wanting to start an argument or anything, and I may well be completely wrong.

But last time I read my copy of the Freight Transport Association Designing foe Deliveries (1998 edition I think) thwe maximum width for a vehicle was 2.5m unless it was a refrigirated vehicle and then 2.55m was the limit.

 

As I said I may be wrong.

 

Mike

It used to be the figure you quote, the width limits have been revised upwards to 2.55 for normal vehicles and 2.60m for insulated vehicles( having a minimum wall thickness of 45mm). This new widths allows for two Euro pallets side by side in a standard lorry or trailer body, insulated or not.

Just a thought here- if tracked vehicles do not meet C&U regs, why is there a driving licence for them if they shouldn't be on the road in the first place? Surely some kind of precedent has been set by previous vehicles having seen road use?

Tracked vehicles under 2.55 wide may be able to meet C and U regs. If they do they can be driven on the road.

Engineering plant, may be over 2.55m Wide. If a crawler is being operated according to the Use resctrictions placed on Engineering plant, and complies with the Approriate STGO regulations, it can lawfully be driven on the road.

Both the above cases require an H Licence.

The problem comes with tracked vehicles over 2.55m wide, that are either not Engineering plant (ie they don't comply with STGO "construction" reg or they are not complying with the STGO "Use" regulations. Wide tracked vehicles not complying fully with STGO regs in terms of their design, or the way they are used, are not legally allowed on the road. If they have been used on the road in the past, that use has been illegal, and it sets no precedent.

The H licence is for Tracked vehicles under 2.55m Wide, and fully complying with C and U regs, or for wider tracked vehicles that do not comply with C and U but for which a suitable category exists within STGO and they are used in such a way that they also comply with STGO restrictions as to use.