Richard Farrant

Hi Pete,

The early OY up to about 1941 had a different layout on the dashboard and did not have the combined oil pressure and ammeter gauge.

I have attached a pic from Bart Vanderveen's Bedford book and upper pic is of the early vehicles. Apology for pic on its side.

In 1939-40 era, I think you will find it was Khaki Green No.3

If you found Deep Bronze Green, this likely if it was still in service after the war. A lot of surviving lorries were rebuilt by the army in the 50's

2 hours ago, B series said:

Unusual combination of vehicle and markings. And the building in the background is an uneasy style of house / factory.

 

Admit it is unusual to see one in US Army service. Think this photo was taken post war as there is no blackout on headlamp. Body does not look like an original cargo type, appears to have wood planked sides.

I have also seen the "diesel bug' form on the clean side of the secondary filter and in the injection pump on a fork lift.

Hi Kevin,

The 'X' type Machinery body had the following equipment;

Generator engine driven 5kw 110v DC - Board, battery charging -Lathe 7 inch centre - M/c drilling bench 5/8" - M/c's 2 Drilling, portable -  Mc's Grinding, bench and toolpost  - M/c Hacksaw - Plant welding and cutting, oxy-acetylene.

The WOT6 Machy wagon that I worked on some years ago appeared to have been a Type X as it had the stowage for the gas bottles and you could see where the bench grinder was fitted. The bench and drawers were still in it, I might have some photos of the inside, not restored, but without the kit.

Richard

2 hours ago, Tom M said:

 Yes, it's War Paints KG No3, in 15% satin. It was a bit glossy at first but has dulled down nicely now. I wanted to get another supplier to mix it up in a high quality matt, which wasn't water permeable, but they couldn't match my sample in time. The War Paints version was given the thumbs up from Mr Farrant apparently so I went for it. It's a pretty close match to what's on the vehicle and some NOS parts I have.

Hi Tom,

I have brush painted some driveline parts with Warpaint KG No.3 and it does have a sheen, which i expect when brushing, but I spray painted some large panels this week and it came out an excellent matt finish, and on the inside of a cable runway cover which has been untouched for 80 years was pristine sample of the colour, so I sprayed one end of it, after a day I checked it and you cannot determine the difference.

regards, Richard

Assuming your camshaft has the pump cam on it, and I am sure it would have, then you can buy a pattern part pump from Agriline ( Fordson Major) for about 30 quid. You cannot use your existing pump.

Ah, the Lightweights with the 'Carlos Fangdango'* wheels! There was one issued new to Lydd Ranges, it used to come up to our workshops occasionally.

This website has a lot of info on the 4D engine,

https://everythingaboutboats.org/ford-industrial-power-uk/

34 minutes ago, super6 said:

 The tractor version of engine does not have the fuel pump mounted on the injection pump.

I notice the block has the letters E1ADDN cast in, that was the code for Fordson Major. Whether that block was also used in commercial vehicles as well I don't know.

27 minutes ago, OZITIM said:

I’m thinking of pulling out the points and condenser and putting in electronic ignition to see if that will make a difference 

The first test I would do is to pull the HT lead from the coil out of the dizzy cap. Take the cap off, then hold the end of the HT lead over the centre contact of the rotor arm and spin the engine. If the spark jumps to the rotor arm then the arm is faulty and shorting to Earth. Replace rotor arm. If the spark does not jump to the arm, then hold it close a bare metal part of the engine then spin the engine, you should expect a good spark that will jump about 10mm

regards Richard

I would say it is a Ford, going by the radiator grille. As the bridge plate appears to be 7 and the other two lorries next have high canopies, it can be assumed that it is a 3 ton F60L

Not a goat on the badge, it is a hart, a male deer.

7 hours ago, matchlesswdg3 said:

Here is a photo of mine after having it restored by Father Ted on Craggy Island.  Actually, its currently for sale at £1800 - in France.

That Land Rover was an anti-spark diesel version LHD, served its life with RAF in Germany, disposed of 27 years ago.  Has not had a lot of care by look of it.

Larry

a wheel bearing is in two parts, cup and cone, you only showed the cone which falls out when hub pulled off. Cup is probably still in the hub.

3 minutes ago, LarryH57 said:

So those parts are perfectly serviceable? I wonder why the bearing was removed from the hub? Surely it would be best to get new replacement parts. I have the hub tool already.

Larry,

the bearing falls out of the hub when it is removed from the axle, If the Cup part of the bearing was removed I could understand  your question but as you do not show it then it must still be in the hub.

Same size hexagon as hub nut on a jeep, hub nut sockets are cheap enough, only way to adjust the wheel bearings properly.

I remember an incident with a Barford towing a tilt trailer loaded with an International 100B, it was coming down Blue Bell Hill from Chatham towards Maidstone, got out of control and tipped the lot on its side. Our recovery team went out to it. I worked on the Barford and seem to think the damage was not too bad as the body protected the cab somewhat, but the 100B suffered  and when I was up at the Plant School training workshops a bit later I recognised the 100B by the bevelled off edges where it had slid down the road. This would have happened in late 80's. Hope it was not one of you ex-Sappers involved!

Just realised, on that carb the arm is not attached to the float. I did have a problem with one of those Solex float needle valves recently, it was flooding and the needle movement did not feel right, so I carefully dissected it and found the needle has a Viton tip on the sealing end, this had detached from the metal needle. Obviously a recent replacement and believe this could be due to ethanol.

1 hour ago, REME 245 said:

One of the carbs on my Daimler AC is flooding after rebuild leaking out of the top cover gasket.

Assuming that the float has not sprung a leak can this be cured by simply bending the arm very slightly which acts upon the inlet valve?

Another way is to add another washer under the needle valve, it saves messing with the float, unless of course the float is leaking.

Rob,

I recollect a breaker like that came in our workshops, probably late 70's and it was called an Arrow (possibly the make), and based on a Ford lorry chassis and engine, but driven backwards.

17 minutes ago, Zero-Five-Two said:

Power steering was the biggest advantage

Absolutely 😉

2 minutes ago, Zero-Five-Two said:

All the British Army ones were badged Aveling Barford, and were known throughout the Royal Engineers simply as "Barfords".  The R.E. did use skip extensions or Greedy Boards as they were called. These were fitted to vehicles designated for airfield repair squadrons.  Very nice trucks, well built and reliable, pleasure to drive and work on.

Hi Rob, that gear stick straight out the top of the box and good steering lock, much easier to drive than a Militant , although I liked those as well.

18 minutes ago, Harry hall said:

That's me standing on my old man's Averling and Barford dumber back in the late 90s. 

Does anyone own one of these dumpers? We still have it in working order and can never find another one for sale!

Originally it was painted in army green so I presume it is ex army?! 

 

Hi Harry,

Never owned one but worked on quite a number of army ones from 1974 into the 1980's. The 690 was the early one then the last ones the army had were fitted with the AEC 760 engine. First one I worked one, had to take the engine out and strip it as a con rod had gone through the block. The block was repaired and I rebuilt it. I loved them, a really straight forward truck to work on. Your looks like it has extension sides on as the army ones were lower and when the miners strike was on, some of the army ones had to be fitted with extension sides. The 690 was built by Thornycroft and the later 760 built by Scammell. Aveling Barford was part of British Leyland at the time.

3 hours ago, Surveyor said:

If hes about to open i wonder when he actually started on it

According to the news video on here he said he was opening the museum on Memorial Day 2019, must have been a slip of the tongue as it was planned for May 2020