timbo

Maybe I'm weird but I love this stuff! It's like touching history. Whenever I fit something to my vehicle I agonise about what to do with the packaging..!

CAV Ltd part of Lucas. The company's founder Charles Anthony Vandervell died one year after this parcel was wrapped...

I'm starting to like Jackson's less and less, is it common knowledge that you can get an extra high 20' container, or are Jackson's just rip off merchants, can anyone recommend a service manual for a spartan, I've seen this (http://www.ekmpowershop5.com/ekmps/shops/greenmachines/cvrtall-variantsuser-handbook2nd-editioncvrt-164-p.asp) and am wondering if it will have normal service manual stuff ie, sequence of pulling stuff apart and putting it together again, bolt torque settings, what oils and greases to use etc.

 

Also a manual for the electrics, with wiring diagrams etc

You want a user manual for the basic stuff, EMERS for the j60, and illustrated parts listings are also useful, you need the cvrt common items one and there is also one for the spartan variant...there is also an electrical systems manual but the one i have is for scorpion which does for most stuff, not sure if there is a spartan one..

Mark at vintage mv manuals/green machine (per your link above) can do all of these and i have always found him very reliable...

To put it in perspective a mate has a challenger one and picked up a set of manuals for it earlier this year...something like 40 volumes and 6 foot long...!

Good question never been able to do it from ipad always ahve to email to laptop...look fwd to answer..

With reference to retiring the current CVR(T) fleet I think it will be some time away.

 

My current fleet known as CVR(T) 2 has been upgraded a fair bit to make them more useable in theatre, it includes engine, gearbox, seats and a few more items. And I know of another 2 modifications on the way.

And dont forget the handbrake mod! Thats why most of the Stormers coming out of withams have no handbrake levers...

Brilliant mate really good, and the Caunter scheme unless I'm much mistaken, one of my faves..

Pics would be good! Was thinking about doing something similar at our show in a couple of weeks, but potentially using a Scammell/ Militant jib to raise the height of the free end. Would imagine with 600+ foot of cable you could get quite a bit of pace up..!

Having purchased a reasonable number of these a2 engines recently I just think you have to be aware of the implications. I have fitted one and sold a few of which 2 have now been fitted. On one of these the carbs diaphragms had perished and the coil was also u/s, possibly due to the engines having sat around for 7 or 8 years since being tested. Having said that the one I fitted worked straight away and now runs good as gold, as does the third one. So you pays your money and takes your pick as they say. All of the ones i have purchased have test certificates and some have concessions for not being at their full power output - a number of them have test sheets showing 170-180bhp. So they are a better bet than pure take-outs but not as good as fully remanufactured recons... Simple really..

Some very goodpoints from other members especially about the spare parts, buy what you canafford when you can afford it. Start to make a stock pile if you intend keepingit long term.

 

As for the track bashing its all about the right angle to just tap the pin in!

 

You will find it easier with a track clamp during track bashing but it’s notunknown to just use 2 ratchet straps to pull it together to allow a join.

 

With regards to the price of these vehicles I’m a bit shocked how much theyare, I'm lucky enough to be still playing with them for work and as alreadymentioned they suffer from 'drive it like you stole it' or as my lot refer toany that comes in for repairs, 'Hire car syndrome'.

 

Lee

Prices quoted by MarkH seem about right to me.. If Jacksons are asking £25k that is probably why they've had them for 6 years..

Remember also these prices are for PETROL variants, diesel CVRT's are still very rare in private hands (notwithsatnding the large numbers of Stormers coming out now)...

Th big thing that a lot of people miss during the purchase of armour to export abroad is the whole spares side of ownership.

 

I cant tell you how expensive it is to support a piece of armour away from the UK where everything or nearly everything is available next day by courier from a dealer.

 

When you buy your vehicle, buy as much in the way of power train and engine and running gear spares to cover the next 10 years usage. The cost of that sea container is so cheap compared to having a spare alternator or spare engine sent out to you later on.

 

Don't consider an A vehicle without getting the track tools, attempting to split track for whatever reason without track clamps and track pin tools is not worth the risk to yourself.

 

You have to develop a real "what if" mentality and support yourself.

 

Also, when you do get the vehicle home, operate it in a sane manner and don't thrash it and you will have a grand investment and many years of enjoyment. Thrash it and you better be able to recover and repair it yourself or be prepared to pony up the cash to have it done for you.

 

All your new found friends will melt away as soon as it comes to pulling engine decks and splitting track and skinning knuckles.

 

That is my humble advice.

 

R

Robin

You would be pig sick if you could see the amount of CVRT spares floating around over here at the moment....and they just keep coming.!

Cheers

Tim

Picked this up before but it is still great...beautifully prepared vehicles. No Sabres though of course! Interesting that the Striker has brit style smokes on it.

Going To Duxford apparently...

Brilliant, just brilliant..!

Nice to see at least one user who recognises the importance of these fab vehicles. As they gradually pass into history let's hope more people do....

Just had a thought based on an old modelling trick which might or might not work in full scale..

Get a tin of yer missus cheapest hairspray, and spray lightly from a distance the area you want to paint - dont overdo it! Put your stencil on and paint away. Wait for the paint to dry and then you will be able to rub the hairspray off with a wet cloth, leaving a nicely patchy finish.

I almost hesitate to say this BUT....surely if you are trying to make it look as it woukd have looked in the war the paintwork would have been fresh and clean (initially at least)...!?

Interesting that those who stayed with the aircraft survived while those who tried to get help were never seen again.. I was told once that in this sort of situation it is always better to stay with the aircraft/ vehicle and wait for rescue. Either they will find you and you'll survive or they wont and you wont. If you wander off in these types of environments you're almost certain not to survive...what a choice!

in reply to this message, mvee did all sorts of trials on cvrts, and the incident you mention did take place when i was based at mvee. The incident occurred on the test track at chertsey where the cvrt was coming of the test track onto one of the side roads and was travelling at a high speed and there was bad weather conditions. At the same time a chieftain tank was proceeding from the skid pan area onto the test track. The cvrt collided with the side of the chieftain, there was minimal damage to the chieftain and extensive damage to the cvrt and as a result of the impact the two military personnel in the cvrt mick and ken died. I along with my comrades attended the funeral of mick while other comrades attended the funeral of ken.

rip...

While we're on the subject does anybody know the history of the black painted V8 powered CVRT, latterly restored to its former glory as a Scorpion by Fourfox?

Sitting sideways enclosed in the back of an armoured vehicle is seasick-making without seeing fluids moving!

 

I was lucky in that I only crewed in the back of a Sultan for one exercise season before getting command of a rebro ferret.

 

The soft suspension on a CVR(T) meant that every time the driver sped up or slowed down, my guts churned due to the same motion in my stomach that caused seasickness (even though I raced yachts for the regiment).

 

At least when commanding you were generally looking at a point in the distance in between brief checks of the map.

Alien old chap

You were probably in a vehicle equipped with the Armstrong dampers. The newer Messier dampers are considerably better especially off road..

Cheers

Tim

Provided they are looked after i think they should be left as memorials to those who gave their lives in defence of freedom. I would rather see that than see them disappear into the private collections of wealthy collectors never to be seen again (notwithstanding that there are some very good private collectors who do their best to make sure their vehicles are seen and the history understood).

I guarantee the Vimoutiers tiger would be seen by a lot less people if it is ever moved (though it could do with a spruce up!)..

Nice. Seems ridiculously cheap too..

As an aside it was a commonly held belief among bomber crews that KG200 operated captured bombers in USAAF markings which would pose as stragglers and try to infiltrate bomber formations and shoot down the surrounding bombers. There are several instances of crews quoting single aircraft with erroneous markings trying formate with them, but no confirmed evidence of these actually being Luftwaffe sabotage operations. Post war senior Luftwaffe officers denied that this practice ever happened...but who knows....?! Certainly many bombers crews believed this happened even long after the war.

Mike

Also make sure the infra red switch is set normal not ir. I tried this on mine tonight and hazards etc dont work in ir mode. Of course the lights should also be on in this mode but if the wiring has been modified this may have affected this.

Cheers

Tim

Superb Paul - quality is great...not sure about some of the hand signals though!

Yes, it was the same with this one, externally very rough but absolutely mint inside

 

Cheers

I have resurrected this thread as my CVRT gen has stopped charging. It was fine but is not charging since I removed and refitted it doing an engine change so I intend to check all the connections first and foremost hopefully it is something simple. Anyhow the point is while selecting which engine to fit I was looking for the nicest one cosmetically and somebody said to me 'dont bother the one with the shiniest face has the grimiest arse!'.....how true!

Cheers

Timbo

Rob

B**ger i was going to suggest Sherman 75mm but only because it was the only thing I could think of with a similar calibre..!