earlymb

That is a standard M1941 (pattern) HBT cap; 1943 is the production date of this example. It was generally issued to infantry as a 'working cap' and was superseded by the M1943 cap. Not uncommon, but you have a nice example is a good size and those are relatively scarce. There are lots of repros on the market for 10 to 15 euro.

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David

I believe this vehicle has been offered for sale within the German vehicle collector's scene for €350.000 about 6 months ago and didn't sell.

You could try http://www.jeepdraw.com/ .

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David

Here are some pics of these trucks in the Dutch East-Indies, between 1945 and 1949:

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David

The holes in the rear crossmember of the frame (behind the bumperettes) indicate it is a Ford frame, but I would need to see the front crossmember (under the grille) or the shockabsorber mounting brackets to confirm.

Most of the bodywork on jeep bodies is quite simple to fabricate if needed.

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David

I think it would be best to ask the Royal Armymuseum in Brussels, they might have some info in their library.

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David

OK, I think I have an ID on that water bottle carrier. It may be Canadian-made for Australia. Although there are a couple of them on eBay.au they can't be very common here. I pulled it from a knee-high .50p-each-pile of skeleton carriers at Beltring 2011. I am quite pleased with it as it is perfect for an impression I'm working on.

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David

These are in my other book, the bottle that is on its own is WW1 08 issue the other one with two pictured are obviously WW2. Any good?

Thanks! Two of my bottles have the same carriers as in your second pic. The first one is a bit different though of the WW1 one in your first pic, in that the straps from the cross to the buckles are shorter on mine. See the pics below:

Edit: I just noticed the press stud is marked 'United Carr Canada'.

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David

Try this link

Thanks, that is an excellent reference. I found the (what have referred to inmy previous post as) types 2 & 3 on that page, but the type 1 remains a bit of a mystery. It is nearly identical to the Pat. 1919 waterbottle carrier, but the straps from the buckles to the front cross piece are shorter on mine than the one depicted on the website (http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1919/1919_equipment_carriers.html). I guess it is either a version of the P19 or an early production P37.

Incidentally, anyone know if all P37 water bottle are WW2 produced, or how to date these?

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David

I have 3 types of waterbottle carriers. Type 1 is the 'skeleton' model, with the press stud on the front. Type 2 is the 'skeleton' model with the press stud on top of the bottle (right next to the neck), and type 3 is the full sleeve model.

The full sleeve type is dated 1942, but on the others the dates are worn off. Is there any specific period these types were used? I can post a pic if needed.

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David

I like the re-enactmentdisplays, but it seems hard for the smaller ones to stand out unless they dig a trenchsystem to Australia. The pitch they get in the middle of the re-enactors' field is quite small, it is very crowded and the walkingpaths there are quite narrow. I wonder if it would be possible to give the re-enactmentsection some additional space in an area North of the Arena, so it doesn't take space from the vehicle exhibits?

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David

I think I actually did well with my finds:

- 8 P37 water bottles with carrier (£2 each);

- 2 types of P37 holsters dated 1940 (£15 together);

- P37 ammo pistol pouch dated 1939 (came with holster);

- some WW2 dated P37 shoulder straps (£0,50 each);

- Brand new desert boots (£10);

- Hawaii shirt (£8);

- US M1942 Jungle Coverall, about size 44L (£40)

- a large pile of British DPM woodland- and desertcamo trousers, jackets, shirts and shorts (free mostly)

Not in the pic:

- some books and magazines;

- 2 metal emailled cups (£2 each);

- a complete Vietnam-era US M1 airborne liner (£5).

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David

Morning guys,

Barbara seemed to think the main arena was the best location, and straight after arena events finish, however (bearing in mind I won't be on site until this Sunday) I'm not aware of any reason why it can't be Saturday 18-30 in Medway field, so how about.......

 

Day - Saturday 23rd

Location - Medway field

Time - 18-30

 

Sound good?

Which is the Medway field, relative to the Arena?

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David

I just saw this post. I drove 'Basil' at Beltring 2009, it was a great ride! A very nice vehicle indeed.

I am actually behind the wheel here.

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David

I don't have one, but I think spares aren't very hard to come by, most if not all of the mechanicals were the same as the standard car. I think the top is made of plastic, and the rear window is indeed just clear plastic. In The Nethelands there are several clubs dedicated to 1950's-'70's Dutch military vehicles, they may know vehciles or parts for sale.

http://www.gaf92.nl/

http://www.dorstigetypes.nl/

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David

The piccy gives you a idea of what one in service with the Dutch Military Police (cant spell real name!) looks like.

 

That would be 'Koninklijke Marechaussee', or KMar for short...:-D

These cars are actually very comfortable to drive and obviously never intended for terrain. They are also known as 'courier cars'.

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David

Be interesting to know what the postion is across the rest of Europe as to use of these and similar overwidth vehicles. I believe this whole issue arose from trying to bring our legislation in line with the rest of Europe, hence vehicles previously registered got through.

I wonder whether it's the usual story of we are the only country rigidly enforcing the rules, were others are playing it more loosely. If values of 432s collapse in this country they may well hold in other places were use is permitted or enforcement is not taken seriously.

Here in Holland these laws are strictly observed, but there is an escape. 'Agricultural vehicles' are excempt from a lot of rules, like you don't need a real drivers license for them and they don't have to carry a registration plate. Because of this a lot of ex-military tracked vehicles are insured as 'agricultural vehicle' and can be used on the road. There are some limitations though, like a max speed of 20 kmh, and they aren't allowed on highways (I know, open goal....) and some more.

An example. A halftrack can be normally road registered if the owner whishes to. However, due to its weight he wil need a truck drivers license and under recently revoked rules he would also have needed a yearly MOT (all vehicles made before 1-1-1960 are now permanently MOT-excempt) and road tax (all vehicles older than 25 vears on 31-12-2011 are or will become road tax free this year). It is also possible to just insure it as a agricultural vehicle and register it as such. For the registration check you just temporarily block all gears except the first and reverse so it won't exceed the 20 kmh ('construction')speedlimit. After registration you can just remove the block, and you have a fully road legal and insured vehicle you can drive with any class drivers license, as only minors have to take a special test.

I don't see any trouble doing the same with a 432 or the like, since a lot of the real agricultural vehicles are a lot bigger and road legal. This procedure is popular with all sort of tracked MV's, such as Brencarriers and the like.

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David

This is the MVPA's 'GPW Judging Standard', it should answer a lot of questions:

http://wiki.g503.com/index.php/GPW_Judging_Standards

Ford did continue to use 'F' or 'GPW' marked parts were they could, because there was a warrenty and they didn't want to pay for broken Willys parts.

For detailed infomation on 'jeep-evolution' almost per month you can try to find the very hard to find book by Lawrence Nabholtz (either of both editions and both if you can find them).

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David

That is terrible news! I've met Marc a few times at Beltring where we had a few beers at the 'G503.com-compound'. My sincerest condolences to his family.

RIP Marc

David :cry:

This is an incomplete list of participating vehicles, I don't know if it is 100% correct but the organiser told me last sunday the count was 46 vehicles.

Kübelwagen Typ 82 (5 x)

Zündapp KS 750 (5 x)

Schimmwagen Typ 166 (2 x)

BMW R75 (4 x)

Kettenkrad (5 x)

Horch 901 Kfz 16

Horch Mittlerer Einheits PKW

Opel Blitz

Stoewer

VW Kübelwagen Typ 82 oder Krupp Protze Kfz 21

Mercedes Benz 170 V

1-ton Zugmaschine (4 x )

Einheitsdiesel oder Henschel

Opel Blitz Feuerwehrwagen Allrad

Heizung Motorenanwärmer 38

8-ton Zugmaschine (2 x)

SdKfz. 250

SdKfz. 251

Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer

Horch Mittlerer Einheits PKW, Typ 40 Kfz. 21

Steyr 2000A

Auto Union Wanderer W23S Kübelwagen

T34

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David

I just heard that our group will participate with the same 5 vehicles as last year: Schwimmwagen, SdKfz. 7 (cargo), SdKfz. 250, SdKfz. 251 and a Panzerjager 38(t) Hetzer.

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David

Thanks for the replies! I found the one on eBay; it is too big but I'll contact him to see if he has them a bit smaller. I need one with a 36 waist, so I'll also look into the Silverman's option.

Thanks!

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David

Speaking of JG's, I am looking for a large size pair of trousers (BD model), dated 1944 up to 1947(ish) or even a repro. Anyone have a suggestion where to look for these? I know WPG has them, but only in small sizes.

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David

I know of that affair, but I think it is not really relevant here other than what original parts were scanned for reproduction. If they made a few for themselves it would be possible to make more for other Tiger II operators.

Maybe the Tank Museum can make a deal with the Wheatcroft Collection if it turns out they have scanned parts the museum also needs for a restoration to running condition.

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David

Apologies if this is a dumb question (WW2 armour is not my forte either) - are the manufacturing drawings still in existence? If so is there any reason why - other than the time it will take - that the necessary components cannot be remade in the museum workshops???

I'm not sure what mechanical parts are missing, but perhaps it may be an idea to contact the Wheatcroft Collection. They have been making new parts by having surviving original parts scanned in 3D and then make dies:

http://www.3dscanners.co.uk/tank_casestudy_compressed.pdf

Maybe the 2 projects can help each other so we end up with 2 running Tiger II's...:shocked:

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David