Great War truck

Hard to tell really. Show me a bit more please. Tim (too)

Thats quite good. With the thickness of the base you could have tunnel wrfare going on underneath. I started collecting 6mm engines and rolling stock as that is the same as the 2 foot narrow gauge track used during the war (in 1/72), but as it started getting expensive and time was short i never got anywhere with it. Maybe when the kids leave home i will take it up again. So anyway, i have joind the GW forum. Nice bunch of people but as was said previously, they are a very serious bunch. I noticed in a couple of posts that the poster had the word "banned" after their name. Maybe we should take that up here Jack. :banme: Tim (too)

Ye Gods! What is wrong with these people. Whats wrong with just giving her a couple of bottles of cider and 20 B&H. Tim (too)

I have just gone into the Great War Forum and was pleasantly suprised. I do still stand by what i said about elitism with certain WW1 military historians though. While looking through the GWF i came across a couple of familiar names (nice to see cross polination between forums chaps), pictures of two of our trucks and Steve and I, with some very interesting and well founded comments. When i am not supposed to be working i will go back in and have a closer look, but i take on board what you have said and will see if i can add positively to the general knowedge of the subject on the GWF. Interesting to look at the GWF rules. All sorts of posts will be deleted it seems if they do not fall within the guidelines, including anything about executions - they certainly have a lesser tolerance of anything even slightly political. Tim (too)

Safariswing stated “The Great War Forum, that was the forum that wouldn't allow a link to this forum” and this has set me thinking. I have not offended anyone for a long time so lets see what I can do here. :banme: I beleive that there is an unfathomable gap between the WW1 historian and those who collect and restore military vehicles (even those of the WW1 period). It is as if they are saying “I have a PHD in history and I am far more qualified to talk about WW1 history than you”. When undertaking a visit to the IWM library some many years ago, the librarian was exceptionally surprised to see that I wanted to look at pictures of WW1 trucks and looked at me as if I was insane. They did actually go on to be quite helpful. While undertaking a visit to a second world famous collection (the name of which I shall not mention), the librarian was thoroughly objectionable and obstructive and oversaw the whole visit himself in case some heinous crime was about to be committed. Such unpleasant behaviour does not occur in every instance. The librarian at the Bovington tank museum could not have been more helpful and kind, but that may be because it is a tank museum after all and not a military history museum. The National Motor Museum was similarly helpful. If the museum is not dedicated to vehicles of one sort or another it seem that they will have no interest in our interest and will make that quite clear. Hence my thoughts on the Great War forum. Although I enjoy the likes of Stand to and the Poppy and the Owl there does seem to be a certain elitism in their manner and they have no interest in the military vehicles of the period. A shame really as they are the ones that are missing out on the history of some of the largest and most significant surviving artifacts of the war. Just to finish of my rant, I have met more like minded people on this forum who even if they don’t have a specific interest in WW1 trucks are interested enough to read a post, look at a photo and comment on it rather than just dismiss it as something of no interest, than I have in any other organization (except maybe the MVT :-) ). In fact, I have met more people who are positively interested in WW1 trucks here than anywhere else. To my mind such a broad interest of the members in this forum is something to celebrate. The day that we “ban” links to other forums (unless those that fall under the X rated category of course) is a day which I am sure will never come. HMVF is far too big for that. Tim (too)

Strange that! Now i could go a bit :offtopic: on that subect, and as it would be unfair to hijack Jonathans thread i will go start a new one under other chatter. Tim (too)

Did they give a reason? Tim (too)

I have seen plenty of pictures of Jeeps and other sofkskins in the desert with the roundel on them. Tim (too)

So what have you, or do you plan to model from the WW1 period? Just out of idle curiosity you understand. Tim (too)

Interesting. My mate was in the film the Wall when they filmed the WW2 bit up in North Devon. He had a blast. Tim (too)

None in actual preservation i understand http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/Greatwartruck/CAT-1.jpg[/img] This one of course works for a living. Tim (too)

I dont know if anybody has ever come across it before, but i have spent the last few hours on this website http://www.nfb.ca/enclasse/ww1/index.html Which is an incredible archive of WW1 film. Now having watched numerous TV programs about WW1 i must admit to being very annoyed at how the editor/director treats his audience. Those films always jump around after about 3 or 4 seconds so they obviously think we have a very short attention span. The films on this website are uninterrupted and show the mundane in great and extravagant detail. Showing the loading and firing of a howitzer, an FWD hauling a Peerless out of mud, a coulmn of Pierce Arrows negotiating a very muddy road, narrow guage trains hauling ammunition etc. It goes on and on. My best find is probably film of one of the Autocars in a parade, but one of the 12 minute clips (described as August offensive #7) is almost entirely trucks, ambulances staff cars near the front. I have never seen any film like it and have been searching for stuff like this for 15 years. If you have any interest in WW1 trucks take a look. If you are interested in WW1 stuff take a look. If you are not interested in WW1 go and take a look anyway and i defy you not to be enthralled. Tim (too)

Yes, that's quite right. The problem is Jack you are trying to combine your hobby with common sense and lets face it the two dont go together. You must seperate the two. If you want to buy a project, you should only consider two things: 1). Do you really want it and the problems of time, space, skinned knuckles that it will cause. 2). Can you afford to throw money at it without the guarantee of getting all of it (or possibly any of it) back. Some people do make money on selling on their MV's, but they are in a minority. Do it because you want it, or want to save it from the scrap mans torch. If at any stage you have to think whether it is cost effective then you are in the wrong hobby. For example (not us but fairly close to home). Buy an unrestored WW1 truck for £20,000. Spend £30,000 on restoring it. End result, a restored WW1 truck worth about £10,000 if you could find someone to buy it at that price. Tim (too)

Was it that bad? I was going to get some one to buy it on DVD for me for Xmas. Interesting thoughts on the Model T. I have not really given them much consideration. Will send a PM. Tim (too)

I saw it at Kemble a few years ago. I took some pics of it, which i will have a look for. I remember at that time thinking it was unique, but rather strangely i have come across two more for sale in France today. I must compare the photos to make sure these other ones have the same style military tipper body and are not post war additions. but tomorrow. Must go to sleep now. Tim (too)

Thats interesting. I know of that book but have never looked at it. I will do so next opportunity. Probably the history associated with this one will inflate the price unrealistically. As Steve just told me, i could have as much fun with a similar aged car (such as a Dodge) for a lot less money. Tim (too)

Ok. This has gone to the top of my Christmas list. http://www.martinchisholm.com/cars/listings/l0092.shtml Rather nice with quite a pedigree. Has anybody seen one of these before? It is most likely to go to a classic car collector as opposed to a MV collector, but it would be very nice to have. Tim (too)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I should have thought of that when i put in the patio. The abscence of my hellish neigbours continues. I am enjoying it while it lasts, but am not counting my chickens. Tim (too)

It is a bit unfair that you have added an additional voting option after 20 votes have already been cast. If you want people to take this as a serious and credible pole, then you need to discount all votes and start again. :goodidea: ? Tim (too)

I have been giving this one a lot of thought and would firstly say that i have no right to say that people should or should not do such things. I do believe that it is ok to make replicas of MV's if it is in fact a replica. Take the A7V which is superb and all of the LRDG stuff which i think is fabulous. But these WW1 trucks are not replicas, because they do not look a bit like anything that ever existed. If they were to say that it was a Locomobile or a Packard and then do a passable representation of it that would be fine, but these are replica generic WW1 trucks and replicate nothing. I was flicking through a magazine (Old Glory or something similar) in Smiths a few Months ago and came a cross a WW1 military Thornycroft. I did not recognise the truck or the name of the owner and was quite suprised to see it as i thought i knew all the survivors. I then realised that it was in fact a 1920's Thorny that had been militarised for a TV WW1 drama (no idea which one) and they had in fact done a good job, with the only thing standing out as incorrect being the shape of the radiator. What i am saying is that if the BBC can do it for a cheap TV drama, why can't Hollywood for a multi million $ block buster. The moral of the story is if you are going to do it, well do the best job that you can. But if you cant, well dont worry about it as all you will get are grumblings from people like me while watching it on TV and maybe odd postings on MV forums. Tim (too)

The steel in the armour plate and chassis is so old and of poor quality that it has chrystalised in places and is very brittle. It has a similar strength to a piece of china. One good hard knock and the thing has a good chance of shattering (strange but true). Although it breaks my heart to say it, it is probably best now to lay it up for good, so at least people can see it while it is still so complete and original. Maybe the tank museum should apply for a lottery grant to make a replica. I am sure that BAE systems would like the work. :whistle: Tim (too)

Goodness knows. With solids you should not really go over 15mph. Anything faster is dangerous and the tyres will fall apart. I guess they are ok as film props, but i think it sad that they did not locate real WW1 trucks for the parade at Horse Guards. Tim (too)

Thats kind of ironic, as due to the trouble we have had with the neigbours, i protect my daughters bicycles from theft with a nuke. Saying that, i have not seen the neigbours for three weeks now. I imagine that they have either been arrested, taken into care or just fled without paying the rent. Oh Happy Happy Day! Tim (too)

Part of TOGS Tim (too)

Is it used for testing the effect of ammunition on armour? Tim (too)