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A nice recreation. How did it go? Tim (too)

The naming of parts is a famous WW2 poem by Henry Reed. Someone may wish to quote it here, but i thought that the name was quite appropriate to this thread. Who can identify the truck and name the parts (these first three are off the same truck): Hint: Engine off WW1 truck is not enough to win a Mars bar from Jack.

Tony has made the final 12 studs (out of the 24) for the Universal Coupling Case on the rear of the Brake Drum today. These all fitted - so that's the end of that mundane job! There is Felt Seal to be replaced on the front of the small cover - the old one is visible in the photographs.

Well done chaps. Quite right. here are some more photos of it: Nice to see a loco restored to its war time livery. They had done a really nice job on it. A pity it was not in steam on the day of my visit though.

Steve started on the water pump patterns at last and has completed the simplest which is the cover. The material of choice for pattern making is MDF which has no grain, is readily available and takes glue very well. This is good as the first job was to laminate a block from which to turn the pattern. I screwed the block to the face plate and turned the outer face. There is a flange on this face to take the suction elbow so he cut this from a thin piece and then glued it on. The gaps under the edges, he filled with Isopon. Then it was a case of turn it around and bore the underside. Once this had been done, he fitted some blocks underneath to provide material for the elbow bolts to be tapped into. Then turned up a simple block to be used when first ramming the mould to support the pattern. This block will be removed before ramming the other side. The final job now is to paint both pieces. MDF has a rather furry finish after turning and doesn't rub down very well. However, the first coat of primer will seal the surface and allow it to be rubbed down to a very good finish before applying the second. Next pattern is going to be the pump rotor. It will be MDF again but this time with a core box. After that, there are four more, each progressively more complex. Surprisingly, the most difficult will be the suction elbow for which, at the moment, he still has no solution. Watch this space!

Ok experts. Which engine is this and why is it relevant to this forum:

Tony has completed another mundane job - 12 studs made up and fitted to the back of the Brake Drum which hold the main cover over the coupling to the prop shaft. Still another 12 studs to do which hold the smaller cover to the main cover.

A friend was a helicopter mechanic in Ireland for a while. Where he was based there was a presence of both Paratroopers and Green jackets as a changeover occurred. While out on patrol one Greenjacket was shot by the IRA through the neck and killed. When the Greenjackets got back the paras had put up signs in the canteen that "Greenjackets were a pain in the neck". Anyway, to cut a long story short there was a big fight which took some sorting out and which my friend wisely observed from a safe distance. This all sounds rather harsh, but does such rivalry continue today? When some poor Para gets slotted in Afghanisatan do a bunch of Rifles have a small party? What are your experiences? Tim (too)

Not sure if that is a Thorny. I did at first because of the wheels, but then they didnt look right. Will have to watch it again. Anyway, the best ever clip of WW1 trucks is available here at "Images of a forgotten war" http://www3.nfb.ca/ww1/wartime-film.php?id=531402 Lots of different trucks all working very hard. Tim (too)

The first part that Steve taclke with the gearbox. The intention was to get this completed and tucked away so when the chassis was ready, this could be just dropped in. The gearbox was mostly all there and having been in a shed was not all that bad. The lid had been smashed at some stage but from the surviving bits Steve was able to make a pattern to get a new one cast. The first step was to get the box all to bits: After cleaning it, painting, getting replacment bearings we put the thing back together. Look at that hair! It will make jack ever so jealous: Steves home made press worked very well: First completed unit to go on the shelf ready for fitting.

Some of you may not know, but i am also updating our WW1 Thornycroft restoration project blog at the same time. This project was started some years ago but got overtaken by more complete projects which were less challenging (at the time). I am catching up with scanning the photos. It can be found on this link. http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=13514 Tim (too)

We have no Headlamp Brackets and are now going to have to make two. Mick has very kindly loaned us the ones from his Dennis Charabanc, and whilst they are not completely identical to the Subsidy Lorry ones, they do give us some idea of the size and the tapers of the "U" part of the bracket. From Mick's we can measure the tapers and lengths of that section for ours. Mick's pair are handed but the "Subsidy" pair are not.

Thanks Alan. PM sent. Tim (too)

Third row, right hand side. Tim (too)

Not sure what that is. Not quite enough information to be able to tell. Tim (too)

Charawakky introduced me to Pathe news so i thought i would make a list of some other interesting clips. Mobile cinema lorry's. http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=78371 This is the most inteesting one so far. A US searchlight. I have seen the same mechanism on the back of FWD's before. http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120'>http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120'>http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120'>http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120'>http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120'>http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120 A Holt 75 in French army service: http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120 A Pierce Arrow driving through mud. http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=77138 http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=truck&sort=year&o=120 50 Ambulances leave for the front: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=74808 AEC and Pierce Arrow in US Army service: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=76977 Renault convoy http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=77296 A Peerless: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=76671 AEC production line. Fantastic http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=77695 RAF Leylands: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=78404 More RAF Leylands and tanks http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=74818 A French artillery tractor: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=78797 http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=78001 Supposed to be New Zealanders preparing for war, but i think there are captured german trucks: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=75614 A British Berna http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=75789 Ok. I have found so many interesting clips this is getting mad. Lady ASC drivers with a Straker Squire. This is really good. http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=76228 More women drivers: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=75679 Liberty B http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=76367 Enjoy. Tim (too)

Another brilliant clip of film. Let us know how you get on fitting the piston and grinding valves. Those girls on the P&M look rather attractive, oh hang on, maybe it is the bike that makes the girls look attractive. Tim (too)

At least you can still see the whole thing on Youtube. A hell of a lot of bother to go to to get a loaf of bread. I bet he is thinking get Tesco to deliver it next time. Tim (too)

As you can see, not an easy thing to copy. Anyway, from the photos and the measurements, Steve made some drawings. Seven in fact: We are a bit disappointed not to have an original water pump, but with some work at least we will have an exact copy. We have been putting off this task for a while hoping that one would turn up. After these years nothing has, so it is time to bite the bullet. Steve has just started making the patterns. Tim (too)

As I mentioned some time ago our engine was missing its Water Pump and over the years we have been looking for one without success. Now there is another surving Dennis three ton subsidy lorry, but the water pump was stolen off that during the trucks restoration. The owner adapted a modern pump to go on it. We considered doing that but discounted the idea as we wanted to be as correct as we could. Now, we heard of another surviving Dennis subsidy lorry, although we think it was a post war build and the owner still had its water pump. Steve made contact, but the owner told us that we would be welcome to have a look at it, but the pump had been stolen. With the intervention of our good friend Mick, we discovered that it had been removed by the owners Father (since deceased) and was in another part of the workshop. Steve and i went up to have a look with the intention of drawing/photographing it in order to make a pattern for a copy. This was how the Dennis looked when we went to see it. it was in the darkest shed imagenable and the only light we had was from the camera flash: The water pump assembly was left with us to photograph. Here are a few of the several hundred photos we took - just to give you an idea of the complexity of the project: A bit of wear here:

What an amazing clip of film. I think that is the bigger 10 ton version, but otherwise much the same. You would think that it would damage the railway lines as it drove over them. Thanks Tim (too)

Yes, i would say that the Vimes books (particularly Men at Arms) were the best Pratchett's. I read Berlin as well and that was equally depressing - a bit like watching Downfall. I remember Stalingrad coming out and being a best seller. All these people who dont read military books went out and bought it. In fact, i was offered it by someone years ago who i thought would never read a military book who having read it wanted to pass it on. i still have berlin though. Not sure if i have the stomach to read it again. Tim (too)

I drove a Chieftan tank with Juniper leisure. Great fun. A pity they dont like you driving over the crops.

Yes, it does look the same as the Holt. However the five ton ones were made by a variety of different companies (such as International), so it could be a design difference. I have found the same photo and there it is listed as a Holt, so maybe it was just a design change by Holt. This version was only experimental and was finished too late in the war to be used. Tim (too)