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Still far too low

 

Shucks and I was being all scientific too., with packings in a carton sums.

 

Ok so sums reworked we get: 180,000,000 and 60,000,000.

 

Can I have my Ryvita now ?

Nope, still far too low.

Was there a seasonal ""Tape, kraft paper, gummed to Defence Standard DEF 1299- Christmas" ? Or did thet just press on with the same old boring stuff.

 

Same old boring stuff. But if you want to slow down the opening of Christmas presents this has a sobering effect:

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I find no guidance whatsoever as to the exact nature of the 'fasteng material' i should use.................. :dunno:

 

"Tape, kraft paper, gummed to Defence Standard DEF 1299 or if specified, tape, pressure-sensitive (waterproof film), DEF STAN 81-47 or tape, reinforced, paper, gummed, TS 375 of 48mm minimum width."

Ok my final offer is;

 

A: 140,000,000 &

 

B: 40,000,000

 

Still far too low

Andy, tell the group about the annual pilgrimage from way up there down to Great Dorset Steam Fair with a Ferret and Saracen/Salidin. Also we would be impressed to hear the story of your dedication in driving the Ferret from John O Groats to Lands End :schocked:

YOU AREN'T TOUGH ENOUGH.

 

Yup that's right :tup:

But boxes are terribly important especially at this time of year, here is the prescribed MOD way to wrap up a present for your loved ones (or wives).

Defence Standard 81-41 (Part 5)/Issue 2

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Clive,

 

You just mentioned "rations", is that what these boxes are for?

No idea Richard, I suppose quite a lot of them were. My source is The Army Quarterly Vol. L No.1 April 1945 it refers to "articles cartoned" and gives a larger figure than your sorurce which refers to MT sores (stores?) :naughty:

Here is one of the trailers:

Wow a High Roller. Can I have a second go?

 

A = 130,000,000

 

B = 30,000,000

 

 

You're the nearest so far, but still low for both figures.

Ok I'll go with 7,000,000 for part A, and 21,000,000 for part B.

can I phone a friend ?

 

A was bigger than B. But it was a lot more than suggested so far.

BTW this cartoning was done not only at Central Ordnance Depots but outstations in the neighbourhood. These workers were housewives, elderly men, older children & other non-mobile civilians located in schools, village halls, fire stations, barns, etc.

Clive, Assume British Army, so here goes.....35,000,000 cartons Richard

 

Nope, well done for having a go.

what do we mean by D-Day, JUST 6th June, or the whole shebang, up and till when?

I mean the number of articles that had to be cartoned by UK workers in preparation for the invasion of Normandy and as a seperate sub-question the additional articles that had to be cartoned to continue up to the end of 1944.

Sorry Clive - I'm allergic to Ryvita!!! Me too. It can play hell with your intestinal tract.

 

You don't actually have to claim the prize Colin, like Neil I think it's just an excuse for not knowing how many boxes & cartons were made for D-Day?

Neil, what about having a go at the cardboard box quiz ;-)

The lighting regs are here:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm

Yes well obviously the Ryvita would go soft if they kept bolts in the boxes instead. Have you found the advice useful in keeping your Ryvita firm? I assume this part of your calorie controlled diet, which is why you manage to retain your figure?

Do you remember Bengal Matches? Those red or green burning matches, inside they were wrapped up in pink paper - bits of the Financial Times.

Whilst talking nonsense I have now got Min of Ag & Fish (before they became Dept for Elimination of Farming & Rural Affairs) Bulletin No.127 Dec 1643 "Home Curing of Bacon & Hams" covers dehairing (of the the pig that is), eviseration, checking abnormal odours etc. Going back to matches I can remember as a small boy just managing to read on a matchbox hat "A pig is a paradox in that it has to be killed to cured" I was completely perplexed by that as I had no idea what a big word like paradox meant.

I thought this was a military vehicle forum

Nnooh, this now a cardboard box forum. For the winner of my quiz the prize is a genuine box with a choice of a 1953 Vocabulary of Army Ordnance Stores label or one with a 1956 RAF Stores Vocabulary label. Buyer to collect. To avoid any controversy, I apologise these are post war boxes, the D-Day ones got wet.

14 million

 

No not enough

This is obviously a more popular quiz Jack, got an answer within one minute :-D

.............everyone scared then :dunno: :dunno: :argh:

 

It's far too complicated for us thickos. Just a few questions, or one real humdinger like:

In preperation for the invasion of Normandy, how many cardboard boxes were supplied by this country?

Interesting to see that only two of the lower rated ones have UK NATO Codification. The other Codified ones are for the US & Canada.

(I want another one now, I cant afford one and probably havent the time to do another, but you only live once!)

What another MV? or another baby daughter? :naughty:

Yes you are leaning on an open door here! Supply chain & admin so crucial to the success of any campaign. Although I only make a cursory walk around re-enactments at Beltring, I was very impressed with a German field admin post with forms, typewriters, rubber stamps, telephones etc. Although my vehicular intesests are post war, when it comes to documents, supply chain, administration in the field etc these era limitations fade away & it all becomes deeply fascinating.

I got sent by CMV to do a feature on some guys who were making repro canvas in Essex. For whatever reason it did not run, but they had ex WD sewing machines for the specific purpose of doing authentic British pattern button holes etc. Very interesting. ..they were really skilled. MB

That was a shame but I suppose tanks & guns sell more magazines.

Those sewing machines were in the Trailer Type No.1 Clothing Repair parked alongside were:

Trailer Type No.2 & 3 Clothing Repair with varying sewing, button sewing & darning machines.

Trailer Type No.4 & 5 Anti-gas Clothing Repair

Trailer Type No.6 Respirator Repair

Trailer Type No.7 Metalwork Repair

Trailer Type No.8 Woodwork Repair

Trailer Type No.9 & 10 Boot Repair

Four 1-Ton Generator Trailers to supply the above.

I have a Catalogue of Army Ordnance Stores Section W11 Sewing Machines & Boot Repair Machinery. It lists 5 household sewing machines, 14 general purpose industrial sewing machines plus 7 types of specialist industrial sewing machines. Now wouldn't it be nice to have a trailer at a show with all the kit installed? Not as exciting as MBTs & guns of course but soldiers with holes in their socks, boots that have split and with respirators that need repairing aren't going to be an effective army.

Richard

I realised that too late. I do actually have a second email address which is spam free. I am reluctant to dump the original not just because it combines pig & humber in the address, but occasionally someone who I gave a card to say at a show will surface years later with info or something.

I was toying with having a system that uses disposable email addresses, you would just use it in an ad once, or give one person just the one address. Then the addresses that generate spam, you just delete forever ;-).

Clive

Before I put any ads on milweb I had no spam. After a couple of adverts it now is 100-120 spams a day. Although I preview at the server on Mailwasher Pro I then bounce it and report it, but its such a pain.