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I have just received an email following my comments to advise it has been refused permission, I attach the decision notice

27887_010-OFFICER_REPORT-1063788.pdf

On 9/28/2009 at 11:35 AM, armycook said:

Cooker Petrol No.1

Introduced in 1939 the Cooker No.1 or Hydro burner as it was known became standard equipment for the next 40 years until health and safety ruled them unsafe for use.

Consisting of a 2 gallon petrol tank pressurised by a foot or built in band pump, it fired a jet of flame along a trench covered by metal plates. These interlocking plates had holes to accommodate camp kettles (left of photo below, or the stainless centres of hay boxes as being used above (Hay box outer extreme right

 

Cooker Petrol No.2

This is a single burner cooker in a folding case, powered by pressurised petrol from a small tank at the front. It has its own windbreak as part of the case. Maintenance tools are attached to the side of the windbreak and a funnel supplied for filling.

This cooker was introduced during the Second World War and mainly issued to crews of armoured vehicles. It is issued with a stainless steel cooking vessel whose lid can be used as a frying pan. The cooker and pan are held together with a leather strap and are normally found fastened to the outside of a fighting vehicle as they were part of the CSE (Complete Schedule of Equipment) issued to a vehicle.

They remained in use until the 1980's when due the change from petrol powered vehicles they were replaced.

Care has to be exercised when using these cookers as the leather gaskets dry out if not used and petrol can leak from the pressure pump and ignite.

 

Cooker petrol No.3

This is a two-burner version introduced during World War Two. This version could be used by a Section or Platoon of soldiers. It could also be used with a standard oven for baking.

It folds away to the size of a small suitcase.

 

Field Oven

This small portable oven is designed to be used with the No.1 and No.3 Petrol cookers. It has two shelves and sits directly above the No.3 cooker, or on the plates of the No 1. There are two opening vents on the top to control airflow which also can be used to heat pans.

 

 

Cooker, Field, Triplex, No.4

The Cooker Number 4 is a portable oven (according the Civil Defence manual all parts could be lifted by two WVS ladies) with a cast iron range on the side. The fire is set up in the end of the range and the heat drawn along the range and around the oven. The earliest photo showing one in use is at a camp in 1914 and was still in the 1956 manual as well as the 1960's Civil Defence manual. Our example came from these stocks, although we understand that examples were still held as late as 2005 (RAF mobile catering stores)

 

The Cooker Number 4 is a portable oven (according the Civil Defence manual all parts could be lifted by two WVS ladies) with a cast iron range on the side. The fire is set up in the end of the range and the heat drawn along the range and around the oven. The earliest photo showing one in use is at a camp in 1914 and was still in the 1956 manual as well as the 1960's Civil Defence manual. Our example came from these stocks, although we understand that examples were still held as late as 2005 (RAF mobile catering stores)

 

No 4 Cook set MkII

 

The cooking Outfit Field No4 MkII is designed to provide a mobile kitchen facilty capable of producing meals for up to 150-200 personnel using fresh or composite rations, or emergency meals of stew, soup and tea for up to 300 personnel in the field. Sufficent equipment is provisioned to enable baking, roasting, frying and boilling operations to be undertaken simultaneously.

 

The Outfit is mounted on an in-service 3/4 tonne wide body two-wheeled trailer with a special cookset body and canopy and frame. Fuel supply can be Combat gas / Civgas or LPG (Propane) but on our cooker we can only use LPG. It opens out to a full kitchen with five work tops- three are for food preparation surfaces and two for food service tables- all are made in stainless steel. There are also 2 fire extinguishers and a fire blanket fitted in brackets on the rear of trailer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have just found this post

Do you still have the pictures to go with the post

I have a No2, No3, No5 and No 12 stoves, I was looking for the history of them and this is the best I have found so far only just started

I thought I would ask again if any one has information on this company I know Wally Duggan is going through boxes and hope some one can help

Richard

Gets even more confusing LoL

Yup memory playing up, got to dig out beret for a function

1 minute ago, 67burwood said:

Mines got the same, it looks like a bracket for a pick axe head and the loop bracket next to that for the handle which stands upright 

Looks a good situation, the Left hand side has some thing that could hole a shovel blade, what'the semi circle for on the right of the marked picture?

Do you have  view on top?

12 minutes ago, 67burwood said:

Bribery usually works plus there that board anything is better than nothing!!

My next door neighbour works, she's about 5ft 6 and my son at 19 is 6ft 7 and he's scared of her, the daft thing is she's a great person and can't understand it, we have said don't tell him as its a good threat

23 minutes ago, 67burwood said:

Progress was a bit slower today but the lower part of the cab is ready to be lifted off , luckily I have 2 teenagers with not much to do at the moment so weight lifting can be the exercise tomorrow.

 

And how did you get them to help, mine will not do a thing

8 hours ago, fv1609 said:

That's a Queens crown.

I was thinking of the badge on my beret and that is different from the one on the paper but I always stand to be corrected

Gents thanks for the answers I was curios why the image was reversed the paper was in the oven for a MK 5 stove, I have no idea and need to lokk when they came in and out of service

Having looked again at the crown that's for a male monarch not a female, so that may mean before 1952 I think, would that be normal?

I have just bought some bits and pieces for the 9x9 tent, they have unit markings on them and I wonder if anyone can help in identifying them, I suspect that anything saying "b Coy" or similar is not any help.

The paper I think has the unit crest mirrored, which I think strange.

All keep safe in these times

Richard

Do you have the kit to scan them in

13 minutes ago, polecat paul said:

For those in isolation or at a loose end, might be worth a read through this as the dates are again relevant!

Take care everybody!

That year is when I joined the reserve's 

1 hour ago, ruxy said:

https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/were-secret-concentration-camps-run-scotland-during-wwii-1483503

I think we need to clarify the term "concentration camp", also after reading the article wondering where the one near Inverkithing is as live in Fife

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The cooker arrives this week, I have got a couple of questions

What would the fire extinguisher be it fits in the side compartment shown on the manuals, I think dry powder but what size.

The fuel is LPG and the regulator is to be 1 kg per cm Square regulator, looking on the calor gas website there could be a number of different bottles suitable, any clues please

Came across this today, interesting reading

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/hitlers-british-concentration-camp-revealed-brutal-nazi-concentration-camp-sylt-on-alderney-has-been-studied-for-the-first-time-since-wwii-exposing-a-tunnel-used-to-sneak-women-in-for-a-german-brothel-the-ss-kitchen-and-a-prisoner-toilet-block/ar-BB11VZ4E?ocid=spartanntp

20 hours ago, Scrunt & Farthing said:

I am equally convinced that the number of tools, of the same size, shape and form is directly proportional to the number of sheds you have.  It is a truism that a tool will always be hiding in a different shed to the one you are actually in, and where the tool is needed.  It thus follows that you must acquire more tools of the same size/shape/form to counteract this effect.  But there lies folly - it  only exacerbates the phenomenon.  The adjustable spanner is like cooking lager (or Fosters as it badged locally) - whilst unpalatable, it serves a purpose.

I may christen this law "Scrunt & Fathings' Law of Walking Back and Forth betwixt sheds"

Dave(S&F)

You also forgot "its not where I left it"

4 hours ago, Tony B said:

Due to forced lockdown, I have started to 'Tidy Up!' The Shed is next. I may be gone sometime! 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘

Same here and as long as its dry intend to start soon, wonder how many things will go on EBay after

Got the beast back and for information they are 60mm long in case anyone else needs them. the source is below and they seem to do all sort of useful pins for our "hobby"

https://www.gsproducts.co.uk/

12 minutes ago, fv1609 said:

Looking in a later publication Jan 2003 0100-A-001-013 a new entry appears in Group 73 that might be promising:

7360-H-100 Mobile Field Bakery System

So that AESP octad might be something to pursue.

Many thanks, the thing that's puzzling me at the moment is does it go on one or two burners and how do you tell the temperature, on the photographs supplied I cant see a thermometer

Many thanks for these links, the last one seems discontinued, I have the operating instructions and parts from a member on here, I was wondering if there was one specific for the oven

Just down loaded the other link and see what they have, one is for the No 4 which will be interesting.

We have the sun here at last so a day in the shed checking the kit I have and seeing what needs to be done

Richard

I am just gathering kit for the Field kitchen and have bought the oven to go with the stove, I have the manual for the stove but cant find a manual for the oven, can any one help

Thanks in advance

Richard

3 hours ago, 2691H said:

 

his is when former MTO training steps 

 

 

Would be interesting to see these compared with the new ones

37 minutes ago, johann morris said:

Bloke near me built a barn to keep cattle in, he never owned or had any cattle, then he applied for a house so that he could be on site 24/7, still no cattle. Then he applied to build 4 luxury holiday chalets in some woods above his house, extended the barns so his son could dismantle 4x4's. Recently he has carved up more wood land and extended the road ways for more holiday chalets, without planning. He is one of a group of locals that belong or have close links to the community council or as I refer to them "those that can do no wrong". As one ex-councillor told me, build it first and if someone complains, then apply for retrospective permission and 99% of the time it will be granted as the council can't afford court cases.

isnt the stage at Glastonbury a cow shed and he won that case