Brooky

Think you might be after a "work ticket"

I am sure it has been on here before

Diamond T 981 Tractor (winch through the front bumper)

Not sure about the markings maybe MSO??

Ooooo go on then - DROPS Trials and Training Team; Mons Barracks Aldershot 1988.

Not forgetting the dog!!!

Is that Difflock????

L ocal news said something about a military utility vehicle

Like the sporty looking Leyland fire engine in the background.....................wonder who that belongs to :cool2:

Very very nice!!!

Missed it again this year

Must make the effort to attend next year!!

Nice piccies thanks

Just had a look at the relevant C&U regs

The width of a vehicle is calculated including any receptacle which is strong enough for repeated use.....

Exemptions include Driving Mirrors

It then goes on to say Driving mirrors and direction indicators are not included for C&U regs, however some traffic regulations do not use the same definition so mirrors may have to be included!!!

Confusing or what!!!:nut:

Thanks Chris,

 

Sadly the date of manufacture isn't shown. My Land Rover series 3 109 ambulance has a note on the front of the V5 which says that it was decalred manufactured in 1978 hence it's an S plate. Of course, this stems from the Date in Service which was on the MoD release note and which I used to register it when I bought it. That date differs from the date of manufacture as I have the certificate from the BMIHT which says it was built nearly a year earlier in 1977! The plating and testing exemption for the Q4 from the Vehicle Inspectorate in 1994 states that it was built in 1954/55 hence as a commercial used unladen and built before 1960 it was MOT exempt. So, as the date of manufacture seems to be the 'be all and end all' (unless you register an MoD vehicle in which case it doesn't) the route seems to be to fork out some cash for someone to come and verify the chassis number.

 

Cheers, Duncan.

Duncan go to the mvt website and get the verification phone number

Give me a call and I will talk you through the process

Chris

MVT Verification officer

Have had vehicles used 4-5 times in films and TV work

In all of those cases people found me!!

Quite lucrative but boring!!

loads of sitting around waiting

The last was with my MW in a series called Island at War (Channel Islands)

Was on the Isle of Man for three days, one days filming and the net result

10 seconds of my truck in the background!!!!

Another wet Dorset!!

Brings back many happy (unhappy!!!) memories

There is no way that he could be considered to be in full control of the vehicle

Doesnt really do the mevement a lot of good

Simply C+E (I take it the trailer will be over 750Kgs)

Both the prime mover and the trailer will have to be MOT'd but can be taxed Private Heavy Goods

Always thought it was "beefed up jeep"

Still have the fireworks on Saturday......................50 years next year!!!

Some cracking motors at Astle Park this year.

The rare FWD HAR1 and the Aero Screen Bedford MW made it for me!!!!

I dont think it matter whether its an AFV or a Jeep

Each vehicle has a story to tell and everyone is different (even Jeeps!!!)

I commentate on the Series Land Rovers at a local event, this year there were over 30 of them in the parade, but we managed to keep the crowd entertained with a few facts about each one, a bit of history of the marque and a bit of banter with the owners

So dont be shy...................get your vehicles into the ring as I said before moving vehicles are far more interesting than ones parked in a line that drive in on the Saturday, park up, put the party tent up cover the vehicles in a cam net(not even properly!!) and drive out on the Sunday

Please note I am not talking about dioramas and displays but everything else!!!

The other thing that bugs me..................why oh why do people feel they have to park so close to each other, I enjoy photographing vehicles (of all shapes and sizes) so leave a bit of room!!!!

(The last remark is aimed at both owners and more importantly organisers)

Wow that must have been fun Brooky driving a big lorry aged 11.

Even better when he bought a QL and then a Commer Cab Ford :cool2::cool2:

One reason why GS bodied K9 are now so scarce, a large majority where converted as Breakdown trucks, they where very popular, a cheap 4x4 medium size truck, nearly all had the GS body cut down, shortened or removed, then a lot stood outside for years and the body rotted away

Indeed Dad bought two K9 Cargoes from Houseman in Pateley bridge in 1966/67. The first cost £100 and the second £120 (you could have had an MRA1 for £75)

They were both brand new (less than 100 miles on either of them).

Both were cargo but one was FFW with screened ignition (that didnt last long!!)

They had steel bodies but both were cut for the work they did (collecting landscaping Limestone from the Cumbrian fells)

We used to put about 4 ton on them and drive them across country!!

The chassis used to break just in front of the front rear spring hanger but flitch plates soon solved that. Also a bit prone to dropping valves

First lorry I ever drove (at around 11 years old!!!)

Being asked to speak about your vehicle in the arena can be daunting & I can well understand people's reserve about about wanting to do this.

 

I am reasonably happy to babble on endlessly about my particular vehicle. What I do find a hindrance is to hear myself echoing through the PA system with a half second delay so I have to carry on talking over myself. This means a certain determination in trying to keep on track what you are trying to say.

 

I don't know whether the isolation of a commentary box cuts out this echo effect. But generally I think commentators do quite well. Its not a job I would want to undertake. Sometimes exhibitors present themselves in vehicles other than the one booked in & the commentator has to think on his feet. I would find this extremely difficult unless the vehicle was a Humber 1 Ton or a Shorland.

 

Given the random way in which vehicles line up for the arena parade, it must be very difficult for a commentator to find interesting things to say about a vehicle of which several have already passed through & possible several more further back in the queue.

 

I think the most skilled at this was David Fletcher of the Tank Museum with his commentaries at GDSF. He always managed to weave a connecting story between the vehicles driving in. These are of course not chronologically presented, their role & country of origin was totally random, yet he was able to string the whole commentary into a coherent, interesting & often amusing story. A particular highlight for me was to stop the Hornet/Malkara near the commentary box & slowly pan the missiles in his direction!

 

But things can vary, one show I took the Wolf & had presented its history on the entry form that it was 51 Sqn RAF Regt & the rear end blown up in Afghanistan. No doubt seeing more action than many of the vehicles at the show. But despite having supplied the history the commentator merely mentioned that it was "a pick up truck & someone has fitted a hard top". So no I didn't bother going round on the other two days.

The echo effect is very disconcerting and you learn through experience not to listen to yourself!!

Agreed about David Fletcher at the GDSF, the trick as you say is to be coherent and not only look at the vehicle in front of you but also the ones behind..............a bit of mental agility required to commentate on one vehicle and thisk what you are going to say about the next!!

Again very true about the same type of vehicle, but the trick is to keep your powder dry so to speak and not to let all the facts go with the first vehicle!!

It is a bit annoying as well that the details you put on the entry form rarely get passed into the commentary box!!

A bit of banter with the driver/passenger can also go down well with both the crowd and the owners!!

Its hard work, but quite enjoyable (especially the first pint after a day in the arena!!) and it is as I have said before the fact that people dont bother to bring their vehicles round is a great shame

Try it next time you are at a show...................who knows you might enjoy it!!!

Agreed about the commentator!!!

If you are not confident in talking on the mike then either give the commentator a note or when he approaches you with the microphone shake your head or give him some indication that you are not comfortable.

Most commentators will accept that!! (I certainly do!!)

As for the commentator not knowing his/her stuff, agreed but if the commentator is worth his salt he will remember your vehicle the next time he sees it and may give a good description of it

The public pay to come into these events and expect to be entertained otherwise they dont come back to the detriment of the show.

There is nothing worse than a grand parade of military vehicle!!!!

"Brooky has saved me some mental effort as he has almost written my planned reply word perfect for me..:thumbsup:"

My pleasure.........................where do I send the bill!!!! :cool2:

Seems to be very W&P orientated answers on here!!

There are other shows up and down the country every weekend (Vintage vehicle rallies, steam rallies etc) that green machines attend

I think that given the time the effort (not to mention the finances) that go into organising these events where we the exhibitor 99 times out of a hundred gets in for free and camps all weekend for free that it is only good form to get your vehicle into the arena.

Most rallies/shows dont have you queing for hours and yes I agree that a bit of communication between the stewards and the exhibitors would make things go a bit more smoothly, but surely we can give up half an hour of our time to put on a display.

Moving vehicles are far more impressive than those parked in a line!!!

I do understand that the vehicle may be part of a display and in that case probably impractical to come into the arena but there are stiil a load that could and dont.

As an example I will be at a show this coming weekend that always has a good military section.

I will bet a pint that under half the section make the effort.

Interesting question

I am both an exhibitor and a commentator so can probably speak from both sides

There is the "I live in my vehicle" excuse, yes I can see this, but there are some very interesting vehicles out there that would really make the arena event interesting

There are also the vehicles that are part of a display (and I dont mean a camo net thrown over it)that would be a major disruption to that display

No disrespect to Jeep/Land Rover owners but maybe seen one seen them all? (in the eyes of Joe public............I own two Land rovers so that includes me!!)

Maybe there's the "I've been in the beer tent all afternoon" fine, come in the arena on the Sunday (or find a driver)

"The commentator is useless", probably the biggest issue! I have been to shows (big and small) where the person behind the microphone is just a voice and has no knowledge of whats in front of him and is basically an embarrassment, however dont knock the guy (or guyess) they have a procession of all sorts in front of them all day and have to keep talking!!

Or it may be the steward of the section without any public speaking experience has the mike thrust into his hand to talk about his section!!

Maybe the organisers dont give enough notice of the time of the ring parade, or even worse tell the section and then change it!!!

I take the position that the public come and spend there hard earned to get into the show, we should at least show them the respect of making the effort to get into the ring

As an example I commentated at a show a few years ago (everything form steam engines to push bikes) when it came to the Military section we had about half a dozen vehicles round the ring. I was gobsmacked when I walked round the field on the saturday evening to see maybe upwards of 40 vehicles in the section, and I have to say some really nice and interesting and rare stuff.

So come on, if you are at a show at least make the effort to come into the ring at least once over the weekend!!!!!!!

What I had planned to say was - I sent a copy of the current tax disc for the vehicle to which I wanted to transfer the number - can't see why proof of the vehicle existing should be any greater than when anyone routinely re-taxes a historic vehicle. But then again not much makes sense any more in this ridiculously complicated world.

 

No problem, I'll get an MOT. Like I said - 'Big sigh'..........

Rule is rules!!!!

(Especially with the DVLA!!)