Mark Ellis

@ted angus @wally dugan I apologise to you both. I'm currently suffering from vertigo to go with my metal health issues. I should have recognised 25 AG 83 from the list I made. Been a hard week Sorry

Does TFA mean Training Fire Appliance, or something else in the Fire engine world?

Is this a DP1 driver training vehicle @ted angus ? 25 AG 83. The website says TFA

@Rangie WOW. Thanks. I hadn't realised that there was such a thing. I'd wondered if anyone had put a PDF together of the different British military ones. Site is here https://classiccampstoves.com/forums/military.202/

Does Steve have a list and photos of all the Army burner types ?

@RAFMT That's brilliant. Thanks for uploading that. Do you have any other Salamander books at all?

I presume that all DP1s are marked up as Thornycroft DP1, @wally dugan I was interested in the DP1 and DP2 because they supported the Foam crash tenders. The Salamander can empty the 700 gallon water tank in 1.8 minutes. The DP1 has a 700 gallon tank, and the DP2 has a 1000 gallon water tank - to support the foam crash tenders

@ted angus, Thanks for the info. Mk6 prototype is the first one on the Salamander reg sheet. I guess I should also add the FV6001 reg on that as well How many DP1 did the MOS have? Did they have any DP2 or 3, please?

PD might also be a Thornycroft chassis thing. I found these PD in amongst a load of Thornycroft PE chassis

I'll ask the RAF types about the PD. If it was on MERLIN then it would be easy to say typo, because MERLIN is full of those. Do you have FV or contract numbers of the vehicles? Since I started looking at the Salamander, I'm amazed at just how many companies were making fire engines in the 50s and 60s. We always use the name of the chassis manufacturer, rather than the body builder of the fire engine - except for Dennis of course, who made both. Sun Engineering is yet another body builder that made fire engines. This one being in Feltham, which is where Plymouth based Tecalemit group set up a Foamite factory, which is where the Salamander / Foamite crash tenders were made for South Africa. I think there was another Sun Engineering in Coventry, but found this.

Wondering which other vehicles used this oil bath air filter, shown here on the Alvis Salamander. If anyone has them, I'm ideally looking for the maintenance pages, and parts list pages for the air filter, please. Many thanks

Many thanks, @wally dugan

MERLIN seems rather empty on the DP3, with no DP2 or 1 shown

Thanks for that, @ted angus. Would you know the full production figures for DP1 and DP2 please. I presume that Foamite made all the DP1 and Miles made all the DP2 - for Army and RAF. Apparently, Miles sold out to Gloucester Aircraft in 1960, who sold Miles to Dennis at a later date. Joined a couple of groups to try and find out any history on the Cheltenham factory. Early days.

Thanks for that, @wally dugan, much appreciated. If I've done that correctly, 185 DP1 and 60 DP2

@robin craig Just seen your post on Mapleleafup about the G19 http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showpost.php?p=259309&postcount=10 Did you ever manager to reconnect with the new owner? Some photos would be appreciated. Thanks

Would anyone know roughly how many DP1 and DP2 were made, please?

Many thanks for clarifying that, @ted angus. Much appreciated

I thought Foamite made all the DPs It's been suggested that MILES made the prototype Salamader for Pyrene. Would you have anything on that, please, @ted angus ?

I think this is the LST trial. It's definitely PV2, shown by the lights. The outlets of the first Dowty units weren't very good. They pushed the water downwards when closing the outlet. They turned the outlets 90 degrees so they pushed the water out sidewards, which significantly improved the manoeuvrability.

Thanks, @wally dugan

I have a letter from the Royal Marines to John Rue, where they make it clear that the DUCK was a better vehicle, and preferred by them. We'll ignore that the Stolly could carry twice as much, and far superior off road.

In what years did Foamite start making the Dual Purpose DP1 and DP2 for the RAF? Video here of Foamite making the DP1 at their Plymouth factory. Whilst we're all familiar with the Alvis Salamander / Pyrene Mk 6 of the RAF, Pyrene also offered the Mark 6 on the Thornycroft chassis And we're all seen the Matchbox Alvis Salamander / Foamite crash tender, as Foamite supplied to South Africa. But they also offered the Mark 6 on the Thornycroft Nubian chassis Would anyone have a better image of the Thornycroft / Foamite Mark 6, please And would anyone have any of the Foamite DP sales brochures, please? You have to go in some 14 minutes, but this video shows the Alvis Salamander / Foamite Crash tender, with it's front opening doors. I have a webpage on the Salamanders here https://sites.google.com/view/alvis-stalwart-hmlc-files/alvis-salamander-crash-tender

Still a classified topic, but here's a set of IR lens for the FVs. The IR headlight's glass is flat to allow for these to fit over

Oh WOW. It's got twin headlights @wally dugan Thanks for that Do they ever say what the trials were for, without reading the actual document?