gazzaw

Quite right Kuno

It would be nice to see but is too far off our intended route, perhaps for another trip in the future?

Regards

Gary

Kuno

I know that Jack Valenti has got one or has access to it. similar to these:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://pagesperso-orange.fr/cadrans-solaires/navigation/bagnold/images/bagnold1p.jpg&imgrefurl=http://pagesperso-orange.fr/cadrans-solaires/navigation/navig_uk.html&usg=__eC16BcIDr1eH9qZ3ub1R6ozq1tY=&h=120&w=88&sz=3&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=yEEXoDnPAYbmqM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=65&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbagnold%2Bsun%2Bcompass%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

scroll down page to see it

and

http://www.lrdg.de/v_suncompass.jpg

and

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://images.rgs.org/webimages/0/0/10000/8000/600/S0018691_thumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://images.rgs.org/search_.aspx%3FthemeID%3D3&usg=__DIZDkjYQ1CEEICi6-LHKcVa2Kws=&h=160&w=148&sz=4&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=Awuk67uPcCxtQM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbagnold%2Bsun%2Bcompass%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

again scroll down page

or

http://m.blog.hu/le/lemil/image/Neoprimitiv/LRDG/suncompass.jpg

Commonly referred to as a Bagnold Sun Compass -a variant he refined in the late 20s for his desert trips - it is a lot smaller than any other used at time and had thumbwheel adjustment and degrees etc marked round rim edges

Cheers

Gary

Thanks Kuno

Looks complicated against the Bagnold compass. Do you know of any repro Bagnolds about anywhere?

Regards

Gary

Hi

As part of my research for a forthcoming documentary does any know of any surviving members of the LRDG who may be available for interviewing? I am trying to get some information as to navigation, SOPs, routine and daily life on patrols etc.

thanks

gary

@ Garry; photos of the sun-compass or of its manual?

The Compass thanks Kuno

gary

Thanks

Gary

Re sand ladders- have a basic pattern that can be made in canvas (canvasco will make up for me cw attached ropes etc) with pockets to take the wood inserts. Yes was aware of Red/White strips on back for aircraft ID etc and will be painting same.

Regards

Gary

Lee, CW, Adam and Kuno apologies but was snowed under with work and this exped planning to get back to any threads etc.

Will pursue all links and still trying to get loan of a Bagnold compass- I have an engineer and technician who can make copies of any artefact and produce same in brass, stainless etc. Repro is fine as long as accurate and working.

Re azimuth tables thanks for info and will pursue. Kuno do you have photo of same?

Regards

Gary

Some formations were marked up with white crosses to effectively take them out of the exercise whilst moving to a new area or serial in the exercise then at the new start point remarked as blue or orange forces and fed back into the exercise. Saved fuel and the logistic chain moving them in formation etc and lessened any confusion between opposing forces seeing large amounts of armour and vehicles moving through or round their lines etc.

Gary

The head dress is of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders...

Commonly known as a Glengarry with red/white chequered pattern all around it

Gazzaw

The entrance side was maybe half the dimensions given and the area marked missile trap was where the elsan sat. The part in your diagram pointing up the screen was maybe a bit longer- IRO a couple of feet.

The first diagram a few missives above is the correct dimension for the comd shelter and was always 4 arches (3 bays) in main part and 4 for missile and entrance bays- the purpose of the missile bay was to allow any blast effect (e.g. from grenade lobbed into entrance or nearby explosions) to travel into this area and upwards pushing soil and Flexible Revetting Material (FRM) absorbing some of it. To put an elsan in there -if you were to spend any time down there- would have been untenable - with approx 10 people disposing of their excreted compo into a bucket, unless you wore respirators at all times (good NBC (now CBRN) training)

The FRM was cut and wrapped around the upright stakes and over the arches in a certain way before wiring to stakes and backfilling- this was an art in itself to prevent the FRM bulging inwards and drastically reducing your working space.

hope this helps

Gary W

I'm sure somewhwere in the past I saw details of a bigger unit, that was dug in with a back hoe or such like.

It was primarily designed to be dug by the Light Mobile Digger (LMD) (Thornycroft??) basically a rear mounted conveyor belt with teeth that dug down to depth (approx 1.3m) then driven forward pushing earth upwards and outwards from the excavation. The MEXE (basic comd shelter) could be dug out with 3 passes for main area and 1 for missile trap/entrance bay.

with a section of Asslt Pnrs and LMD it could be in the ground and backfilled in an hour (trained troops) to hand dig was obviously a lot longer but have put them in within 12hrs of hard graft. depending on soil/ ground types- a lot longer on Salisbury plain that wrecked every hand tool with its flint/chalk sub soil -parts of GDR /BAOR ex areas were very sandy and easy digging.

Gary W

Hi

Does anyone know where I can get information about navigating by sun compass and desert navigation from British Army WW2 training manuals and techniques etc. Repro booklets, info or anything else welcome

thank you

Gary

Re the velox, is that not a vauxhall wyvern, more bull nosed than velox which was flatter if memory serves me. I also remember the Vauxhall Ventora souped up 6 cyl beasts used by rmp in Berlin to race along corridor and as chase cars etc. (white mice?)

gary

Does anyone have any cookbook data/ rations info for the western desert campaign and other relevant information to allow a small LRDG re-enactment unit to follow recipes and use similar foodstuffs to 1941-43? I have had a request for this but we are not rations or Chef (Old ACC now RLC) type of unit.

Or point me towards any relevant books etc

Thank you

gary

Kuno

Mainly leaving Cairo to Siwa then up to Sollum then SW out into desert looping round up to Barce then Tobruk back over border at Sollum then to El Alamein then Alexandria. (lots more detail than this but this is the outline - not going deep SE etc for reasons already mentioned.

Gary

Hi Kuno

Finally made it here then, hope to see you with Saharan Saunter

Gary

Dear All

Now becoming clearer and vehicle was uplifted for restoration by Alan Galt via the original owner, although a lot of this info was never passed although it was recorded by our local Sqn it came about from a third party. I am relieved that is has not been stolen and it has gone to a good home.

Will update when I get more info and initial fears of movement unaware to myself, who is holding the records and photos (passed on from original custodian) for past 20 years have been resolved. I will contact Mr Galt and offer him copies of all our records.

The problems arose because the local Sqn, with no interest in vehicle restoration, were happy to get rid of it and the solution was presented when the original owner asked Mr Galt to take it over and it was subsequently taken away. All of this was never passed onto others who were interested in its well-being .

Gary

Just found a couple more Albion shots, taken by Sandy McNeil some years ago. The first is at Biggar again. The second was taken at Bo'ness steam railway workshops. It's not there now, anyone have any idea where she went?

 

To All

 

Glad to report Albion in a good home and peacefully passed onto Mr Alan Galt via original owners for restoration. Originally thought it was taken wthout any info but the dorks at the Sqn where it was sitting never passed on anything so that I could get our records to him, this will now be resolved and apologies to Mr Galt and others who had entirely honourable intentions.

 

Gary Wallace

My 43 GPW is Bouncing Betty, well upholstered and gives a good bounce when stripped for action

Gary

Hi Guys n Gals

Does anyone know if you can get the little blackout masks for the inside of the GPW front marker light doors. I have the working lights with these missing from inside, everything else working but need them to make them right for blackout mode.

Alternatively are there any templates to make same?

Thanks

Gary

For what it is worth the top hole looks like a shaped charge penetration from a beehive or nesting beehive (CD11 or other CD charges)

This would have to be placed and secured by some method to ensure stand-off etc was correct.

Gary

www.relics.org.uk/

list Vickers K

Nick

Many thanks

Gary

Many thanks to both of you

Tony PM sent with req's

Gary

As title says any sources of the vickers k in resin or alloy etc please

Gary