M8Greyhound

BUGGER.....!!!!!!! :cry:

wrong way round...

lifted from the Gee tonight

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The "mystery" box really is not...several old posts about the codes and what they mean can be found....it is not a number

The reason the first 16,000 MBs did not have the place to stamp the complete model type in is that the first contract for 16,000 was, at the time in 1941 when it was awarded, perhaps going to be the only one.... and they were mostly all Army delivered..... no need to differentiate contract models on the only?, (first) run

If your box has QMC (early Quartermaster contracts) or ORD (after late DEC 42/JAN 43 and later Ordnance contract), you basically have an Army only MB. Slats won't have an "ORD" code if original.

RUS, CHN, BRT, CDN were some codes for foreign military sales....there were several others....

NOM is USMC and maybe Navy...folks other than me know better ask Mark Tombleson...

some did not get a contract code stamp...an exception to the general rule as to what is known at this time...

do a search in the old g503 posts I think....

Oh no Steve i will talk 8th USAAF all day and all night mate..i grew up with it...my father is the UK president of the 8th AF Historical Society mum and dad are wartime children that are very active in the vet world with the mighty 8th vets....of various groups.

Regards

Lloyd

Hi again Steve not "knocking" you at all mate.....i understand totally what you are saying...

ORD came first........then QMC sometime just before the end of slat grill production

ORD was Ordnance department procurement order number.....and then QMC was Quartermaster Corps Procurement

the BRT and other designations were for foreign contract Jeeps....

Hope this helps

Regards

Lloyd

Looking GOOOOOOOOD Jack mate !

one quick question though

in the last pic

Why have you hung it outside to dry ?............... :wink:

Set "o" bar treads and shes a GOOD UN

Regards as ever

Lloyd

Steve depending on how "anal" you want to be mate.....for a 42MB like mine you have the WRONG data plate..those are mid to late 44 data plates

for info bud...check out

http://www.dataplates4u.com

tells you all you need to know

Regards as ever

Lloyd

Me me me me me...ooh ooh ooh ooh sir sir sir sir !!!!! i did sir......:-)

waving his arm inanley in the air.....

Regards

Lloyd

Steve didnt you get a temp plate with the data plate set ?

You didn get the Robert DeRuyter ones didnt you ?

Regards

Lloyd

HI Damian

Tell you what they are early Jeeps...because i tracked my original serial number to within 50 and that is 2084536-S so they have to be earlier than my 31-03-42 Dod MB......

The upside down bumperettes seems to be a USAAF "thing" also

Bet they didnt have a carbibne holder on the windshield either.....Mine was a USAAF Jeep 42-45 before being surplussed.....

Glad she is now done

regards

Lloyd

Great Job Steve ....looking good

as you know 1941 slat grills and early 1942 Jeeps never had the B/O lights fitted from factory...mine didnt and mine is March 1942

a LOT were retro fitted in the field so that picture may indicate an early production Jeep

Regards

Lloyd

Rowan use what they used M1 shoe impregnate...do an ebay search for it.I have a tin and its great stuff.

Then dub it off and you have supple water repellent boots....

Regards

Lloyd

WC ...check the bulkhead fuel strainer...a common place for rust to be incurred into the fuel system.....

also check for evidence that the old armored fuel lines are not perishing inside and putting small amounts of rubber into the fuel system....i had that once on my WC52....a piece of rubber in the inlet to the carb restricting fuel flow

and yes severe reain can drip between the hood and onto the main bulkhead junction block causing a short....but that sounds more like battery cables rubbing on the retaining clamp

Hope this helps

Regards

Lloyd

Hi Rowan here ya go mate...also i might know a source for some more.......:-)

http://cgi.ebay.com/41ST-INFANTRY-REGIMENT-DI_W0QQitemZ6605544795QQcategoryZ4724QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Regards

Lloyd

Matt he must have been a transferee then because only the 2nd and 3rd Armored retained the heavy armored unit status having its own generic recon unit...NOT cavalry recon unit or mechanised cavalry attached sub unit.....these guys in all the other 14 armored units recon outfits were generically CAVALRY not ARMOR troops.

its not WRONG to see an armored infantryman wearing blue piping its just not technically "correct"...

know what i mean.

You are correct in saying that attached units medics ,signals and artillery and engineers ALL wore their correct piped garrison caps

EXCEPT for the 2nd and 3rd Armored divisions.....it gets quite complicated sometimes....:-)

Regards

Lloyd

ARMORED PIPING mate for ARMORED INFANTRY........Honest .

and you could wear a 41st DI on yer garrison cap also.

Regards

Lloyd.

As Lloyd ducks for cover here...Colin my ol mate you are not "quite " right here on this issue.

100% right on the uniform regs of the era.......but the Transportation Corps was made of majority white and the Quartermaster Transportation Corps was majority colored...I.e Red Ball express.

The Transportation Corps was more responsible for the MOVEMENT of supplies and stores whereas the QM trucking companies were responsible for the actual transportation of the goods

with me so far.................. :wink:

The Transportaion Corps also had Railway Companies/ Stevedore Companies,Port Battalions etc....

they also wore ar Red and Gold armband with either T.C> USA or Transportation Corps ...USA on it.....

but as Colin correctly says the standard GI issue uniform was worn...

Sidearms possibly if you were at a forward base area.

And as for the TC-MTS on the very rare arm patch......that actually stands for

TRANSPORT COMPANY (IES)......MOTOR TRANSPORT SERVICE

not TRANSPORTATION CORPS....:-(

INCOMING

Regards

Lloyd

Colin spoke with Nick tonight...that GMC of yours looks GREAT......

vetted you,passed you for inspection,FALL IN PRIVATE......:-)

youre IN

Glad to have ya along buddy

Regards

Lloyd

Sound start Ian..the trouble is doing AIRBORNE is that there are a lot of stitch nazis around that will point and laugh from a distance if you look way off base.

Getting the "look" right is a great start.

With and M43 jacket on you can accuratley portray anything from Holland to Germany.

Anything you need to know give us a shout

Regards

Lloyd

Hi Ian...distance from arc on 101st patch to shoulder seam......is 1/2" then a further 1/2 " from bottom tip of patch to tip or point of rank chevrons.

101st didnt generally use arm flags more often for Holland they used arm bands....the 82nd used flags.

Now that is generic rather than indiidual specific........

but for 1st Sgt stripes the flag posistion was known to have been sewn over the tip of the stripes.

Hope thius helps mate

Regards

Lloyd

Me and the Girlfriend were there along with 2 out of our 3 "little uns"......spent £140 on Small Jeep parts and Militaria and some cracking WW2 copy postcards......:-)

Colin ...hows the snatch block ?????

Spent more time gassing than looking at stalls.................. :cry:

So i bet i missed a bargain or two........

Regards

Lloyd

Hi Mazungumagic...i used to have a WC55 converted to a WC52 its chassis number was 81529098...the 97th one off the production line as production started at 81529001

Yes they would have the same T214 engine block....or Rowan check the water thru pipe in the engine and make sure thats not blocked forcing water out where it shouldnt.Does your WC51 run hot ?

Whats your chassis number buddy as there isnt many true 55s left

Regards

Lloyd

Matt host the picture please ..i am intregued now.....

I personally think French.......trrops

Regards

Lloyd

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO not Baldrick...silly...... :shock:

Tony Robinson used to own Robinsons Garage in Burton Latimer near Kettering.....that was my first ever jeep ride and remember him telling me the history of his jeep.

Will try to locate a picture or its current whereabouts

Regards

Lloyd

Thanks Tim and Chris.......i appreciate the advice i will contact roadsure very soon.

Regards as ever

Lloyd

Hello Chris how the devil are ya mate......

Thanks for that....so Roadsure take your pictures as gospel

its as simple as that ??

Thanks for the advice mate

Regards

Lloyd (from the grim south)....:-)

Tim thanks for the advice i am insured with Footman James......but what i need to do is re value the £7K pile of scrap i brought to the £10K restored MB that i have now......

who actually verifies the "new" value for insurance purposes?

regards

Lloyd

Thanks Jack...i must learn to be able to do this

it cant be that hard can it........ :cry:

Regards

Lloyd