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    1941 Morris Commercial 8cwt PU Restoration 2014

    in Blogs of MV restorations

    Posted · Edited by goanna

    Looking nice

     

    re: the brake pipes, they used a strange single flared end on the pipes . I am wondering what you are planning on doing ?

     

    Are you making the bodywork from scratch ? My unrestored PU is pretty original - you need any details let me know and I will check it out for you . Do you have my set of drawings ?

     

    Did you reset the springs? If so, how did you do it ?

    Land Rover larkspur help

    in British Radio Equipment

    Posted

    Hi

    I have been putting together a C13 station, been finding all of the bits , nearly there .

     

    I have two Larkspur battery boxes, these mount to the Land Rover floor ?

     

    The short dog bone lead from the PSU to the set is almost impossible to find .

     

    A chap in NZ sent me some NOS C13 modules ..thanks Brent !

     

    Mike

    How Many Humber 4x4 Utilities are there ?

    in British Vehicles

    Posted

    Here are the remains of o Humber 4x4. I don't know if it was a box or a utility but would restore more easily as a utility.

     

     

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]103608[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]103609[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]103610[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]103611[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]103612[/ATTACH]

     

    I saw them in October 2010 near Sydney but do not know if they are still there as the owner has moved house and I hope took them with him.

     

    Regards Rick.

     

    Rick, that Humber has almost gone to god

     

    There are a few HU models in New Zealand , imported post war by the NZ govt. for use by the survey/mapping dept. At least one kiwi example has been restored . Mike

    Morris Commercial CS8 help

    in MV Chatter

    Posted

    I wonder if a neoprene seal will still be doing its job in 80 years?

     

    The felt seal has lasted a lot longer than a modern seal would, but not seal as well.

     

    Me, I'd fit the modern seal as well, but be careful about knocking the felt seal's longevity.

     

    But we don't know if the original felt seal is actually sealing . Has it lasted 80 years of life and done it's job effectively for all of that time , I doubt it .

    Morris Commercial CS8 help

    in MV Chatter

    Posted

    I suspect they may have said graphite grease!

     

    Is this felt seal already mounted in a metal case like a normal seal, or is it just a length of felt that you fit into a recess?

     

    If you can match a modern lip seal I think you'll probably find it easier to fit and longer lasting.

     

    I agree . A modern seal will be 100% more effective than the felt would ever be . Felt is a natural substance made from rabbit fur . 80 years ago felt was widely used but these days less so . Mike

    Morris Commercial CS8 help

    in MV Chatter

    Posted

    Hi

    I'm just putting my MCC 6 cylinder engine back together, the timing cover has a felt bearing seal where the crank pulley passes through, I'd rather replace this with a modern rubber seal, can anyone tell me what size this needs to be or better still a modern part number for one of these seals please.

     

    Cheers

     

    Jules

     

    Get hold of some measuring tools , a dial caliper or vernier caliper will do the job. Measure the diameter of the pulley shaft and the outside diameter of the felt housing . Your local bearing supplier may have a modern neoprene seal that will fit .

     

    I have about six CS8 and PU engines and vehicles here but I am yet to do anything with them ! I must be lazy or getting old . My Morris Commercials will have a uncertain future here as nobody is interested in them . Most of the MV collectors over here don't even know that Morris Commercial made military vehicles ! One MV owner asked me " Why do you like that stuff "

     

    Cheers Mike

    Camoflage info

    in British Vehicles

    Posted · Edited by goanna

    I found this very interesting too since to date I have never found out exactly what Dark Tarmac No.4 looked like. A Canadian contact says a very dark blue grey whilst many years ago it was reckoned to be almost black. Contemporary colour photographs taken from the web do seem to show the blue-grey shade. If I have read it correctly, I see that in the formuala for mixing there are small elements of yellow and red. These combined with black would give the finished colour a slightly green tinge. I would dearly like to see the sample mentioned in this document and compare it with some type of current standard. If, of course, the archivist did include it. (they often don't!) So much for the oft stated "wartime paint was made cheap wasn't it?"

     

    Hi Mike

     

    That particular information was found by Gina, he has a thread going on the MLU forum

     

    http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19995

     

    We believe there is a Dark Tarmac #4 sample as mentioned in a Melbourne archive . Gina has put a lot of effort into this research .

     

    I myself believe it is a very dark green , almost a black colour .

     

    There are traces of a very dark blackish green as disruptive camo on my 1941 Morris Commercial PU vehicle, the vehicle does have sections of faded WW2 camo visible . The vehicle also has a light stone remnants painted over the original 2 green camo scheme . I will take some pics .

     

    The bits of grey on the top RH are the remains of the grey paint applied by Lanes Motors in Melbourne 1945 , the dealers .

     

    Mike in Australia

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    1943 Standard UV Series Tilly...

    in British Vehicles

    Posted · Edited by goanna

    Some history . At about the time the war ended the Standard company here in Melbourne ( not owned by the UK company but assembled its products ) imported a batch of the tillies and these were sold through their dealerships to civilians . As far as we know, the military here never used the UV tillies . We think it was 80 to around 100 but not sure of the actual number . To get back on their feet, Standards also assembled war surplus Dodge trucks T110L models and sold them . I do have a magazine article written by the Australian Standard historian Brian Rawson . From memory they began in the 1920's, assembling Talbot cars .

     

    A VMVC club member here , restored his dads UV tilly back in the late 1970's. His dad had purchased it just after the war .It appeared at rallies often, but I haven't seen it for many years . Another club member had two of them but these have also disappeared. A guy in Sydney had one too . Mike

    1943 Standard UV Series Tilly...

    in British Vehicles

    Posted

    Thanks Guys. Ian I've sent you a PM as I'm in Australia talking by phone might be difficult but I can give you an email address.

     

     

    Great to hear there is a couple of fellow Tilly owners on here. I'm in Australia which I already know is going to make the restoration that little bit harder especially finding and having spares posted and shipped here. My Tilly is very rough and unfortunately has had the rear tub converted to a flat bed at some stage in it's life. Mechanically it's all there and from the front end to the windscreen it looks to be all there body and trim wise as well. It is missing the seats and doors after that. Big project I know. I'm confident with the mechanical side of things and should be able to rebuild it all and get it running and driving no problems at all. I'm also confident with the body work ect, well the stuff I do have. My main concern is fabricating the rear tub completely from the ground up or finding a few parts to rebuild the tub around will it be possible to find these parts even just some of them? Or maybe a fairly complete tub? I'm fairly confident I could fabricate the doors if it isn't possible to find any? Another main concern is that I will have to find the dash instrument gauges? I will obviously be sourcing parts from the UK and around Europe and having them shipped here.

     

     

    I've also read on one site that not many of the Standard Tilly's still exist with one website giving a number of around 25 still left out of an original production figure of 3000. I've got no idea how factual this information is but maybe someone here does?

     

     

    Any help with any of this and your thoughts and opinions on things would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

     

    Hi Ryan

     

    I just sent you a PM. There are a few restored Standard tillies in Australia . You should be able to arrange a visit with a owner and take measurements for your body rebuild . The Australian Standard register website did have details of the tillies surviving here , but I think the site is no longer around Mike

    What have you found in the bowels of your MV?

    in MV Chatter

    Posted · Edited by goanna

    under the turret basket of the Cromwell I found a live round, 7.62mm ex finish army with wooden bullet, I assume it was a blank to be fired with a shredder fitted to the muzzle. that or they ran out of copper and hoped no one would notice the wooden bullets :-D

     

    Many years ago a friend recovered the remains of a demag 1 ton half track from NE victoria . We found a few 9mm rounds in the hull .The vehicle had been disabled by a mine blast , the shrapnel holes evident on the front section. It had been shipped out here for evaluation during the war, captured in Nth Africa

    Morris PU 8Cwt for sale in France

    in British Vehicles

    Posted

    I have been gathering info on the PU 8 cwt since 1998 . A few of these vehicles have turned up out here and the evidence suggests they arrived via the Middle East .

     

    I know of another PU Morris owner here in Victoria , his example is a earlier than my two , having the hub caps on the wheels .

     

    The recent Aussie winner of the Vanderveen award told me of his experience learning to drive in a Morris PU just after the war . His father had purchased the PU and he , a young teenager ,took it for drives unlicensed .

     

    I do have more info on the wireless installation , the Blandford archives revealed a nice manual with pics

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