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Greetings HMVF'ers!

 

Its interesting to note the new changes since I last posted a thread in March - Lots of new members in that time

Welcome Clive, please tell all us new members something about yourself in the RETURNING ABSENTEES section of Introductions and Welcomes board - do you have any vehicles, are you a modeller, had any experience of organising events? If not, see Jack, apparently he organised a spectacular one in East Anglia this year called 'Bolero' or something :whistle:

We've all been on extra oblutions duties in your absence - it's a heck of a mess in there :banana: :banme:

Les photos magnifique, abn CCKW, encore!

Yes, it seems like a No.7 set has been hitching a ride in your motor at some stage.

By the sound of it you might soon need one to load/unload if you acquire much more "stuff" :-D

Coasting = Aberdeen overdrive as it was called by the truck drivers years ago.............. Some cars (Rover was one) were fitted with a freewheel device as a general economy feature.

 

Also known as "Angel Gear", and the SAAB 80 had freewhel - a most horrendous experience getting around corners unless you braked well beforehand and powered into bend (yes I know you should anyway, but if you got caught out it was almost 'brown bag' time :shake:

The No7 set was manufactured by Carnage USA so I'm wondering why it was a French or Norweigan practise??Seem if it was manufactured in the US then it's an american Addition to a truck???

 

Cheers guys for the info,I've found #ORD6 J7/9 Set No 7. Hoist & Towing parts list is what I'm after,anyone have a copy?????

 

Hey Chappers, did you ever get hold of a copy of this manual? I was thinking of trying to get a copy off Portrayal, but is it worth the bother, being I think just a parts listing ? :dunno:

Cheers, Tony

I had a pipe with similar bends to replace on a jimmy engine (but not in a jimmy) - I tried to get a new one bent by a local hydraulic pipe specialist tuber (Stauff). Problem is they cannot bend to such a tight radius for the pipe diameter, and this is problem most engineering shops will have.

We concluded we needed to find an EXHAUST fabricater who would have the correct radius formers for thin wall tubing. For your pipe the small bore tails are no problem for any welding shop.

But I haven't got any further yet - I have a sort-of -correct new pipe which I might "bodge". I sugegest you try a local Hot Rod shop or similar if none of your trade contacts can help, as they will be used to making up bespoke stuff like this.

Welcome Jason - sorry can't help with a truck, but the show sounds very interesting.

Any chance it might be made available on some format which will enable us non - Hartlepoolians to enjoy it? ;-)

Another variation (as practised - or certainly was - by the Industrial Railway Society) is to make the magazine available without membership at a slight discount over full membership rate. Here the quality of magazine is paramount. No idea if any vehice clubs offer this :dunno:

The M201 Hotchkiss built T84 box is a far better option than the post war T90 CJ box. It's far better to use a license built copy of the original T84 than cut up a perfectly good jeep body to accommodate the large T90 box.

 

Good call, thanks. I take it this box is a lot tougher than the wartime unit?

Hi ABN, any chance you can give us the link to the pictures as there are not many of engineers equipment that I know of.

 

That goes for me too! Would really apreciate the link.

Have you got a glove box in case Grasshopper can be persuaded to leave his Mrs for 5 mins to accompany us? He's only small and won't use much oxygen.

 

According to my computerised loading schedule, that space is already allocated to the hub seals - we could leave the underslung spare at home if he doesn't mind pretendig to be a Toyota Ball Turret gunner :whistle:

If it comes to it, I can go in 2 weeks time when I'm back. Looks like they may have to dig out yet ANOTHER set of everything for Mark!

 

If you are serious about that, I've got to phone tomorrow to see if they have crated our bits up. Doubtful, in which case I could tempt fate :shake: and get them to hold off for a day or two. A ferry trip split 3 ways or in proportion to weight of each set of bits might be cheaper than freight if my haulier cannot get a load that way. Would be certainly be easy way for Mark to get payment to them :dunno: Keep in touch.

If it comes to it, I can go in 2 weeks time when I'm back. Looks like they may have to dig out yet ANOTHER set of everything for Mark!

 

He'd better get f.....axing and f......oning then :-D :-D :-D

If you have just half an interest in B17s and the experience of their aircrews, get this book.

Half a Wing, Three Engines and a Prayer, by Brian D. O'Neill ISBN 0-07-134145-5

This is a 1999 much-revised edition of a 1990 work, detailing the 25 missions undertaken by a B17 crew of the 303rd BG, Molesworth between Aug '43 and Feb '44.

Using war diaries of crew members and some thorough research, this is a fascinating illustration of what it must have been like to fly and survive a tour of duty. All missions are detailed, as seen by each crewman and observers from other planes, all based on personal diaries, logs, recollections and official reports.

I have found similar books in the past to be a little unpalletable, but this one will have you glued to the pages - you seem to get drawn into each successive struggle for survival. 10/10 from me!

 

ask NOS how I know :whistle:

 

 

While you were posting this I was PMing the Rugged Boy the sorry saga, so now he knows ;-)

And I may yet be on a ferry :angry:

Anyway, the spares supply situation was reviewed in last month's UKWLFOC magazine so all he had to do was look on page 8 :whistle:

"The detail on this range of Accurate Armour HELIOPS kits is truly amazing - just a shame the drain plug is integral with the axle case moulding, rather than being a separate removeable item" :whistle:

You're right.

Remember that Time Team dig of the Bomber on Suffolk marsh, where all the aero enthusiasts were getting very tetchy while Phil and his mates tried to dig out a B17 from 15 feet with only brickie's trowels and the clock was ticking down? Evenually the big machines moved in and they got some results in the nick of time :-D

I'll go and listen to my Talking Books edition of the WLF Workshop Manual, narrated by Bill Bailley :banana:

And I still haven't got my overalls...

Still no WFA trenchmaps :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Wish I'd done it myself now..........

Still no emailed file of french map, email address sent twice :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

The centre spool with the extra block on the top of it as in the pic, I have removed and there are 2 inlets on the bottom, A and B and 2 outlets on the top A1 and B1, there is at each end of the block what looks like adjustable nuts, ( to adjust pressure ) ? but there is no flow through it from A to A1 or to B1 or B, and vice versa ?? using low pressure air line, what is this for and how does it work ? can someone explain ?

 

These, as explained earlier, are most likely pressure / flow control valves of some sort.

1) for cushioned slew protection (cross line relief),

If the crane boom is knocked sideways (or when slewing the crane a heavy swinging load tries to keep it turning when spool is suddenly closed), the spring controlled relief valve will resist oil flow (and hence movement of boom) up to the preset pressure only. Above that, the valve will lift, allowing oil to flow possibly from A1 to B1, and thus the boom will be able to swing sideways a little, rather than bend / break something. One valve controls flow A1 to B1, other valve controls B1 to A1. In order to work they require a certain pressure in the oil line from spool to build up before allowing normal flow to service, hence apparent blocked line A to A1 when using airline.

2) for slewing lock and movement precision (in line)

Another possibility, is that these are intended to act as a pressure restriction for the slewing motor movement. The slew motor will not behave like a simple slew ram (which will instantly stop when spool is shut) - instead it will slow to a stop, and can also allow creep slowly if crane is not absolutely level, thus giving an imprecise response to slew commands. By requiring a pressue valve to be overcome before oil can flow (e.g. from A to A1 and from B1 to B), it may be that the motor (depending on type :dunno:) becomes more like a ram in response, i.e. much crisper movement and resistance to creep.

3) hose rupture check valve (in line)

If hose bursts e.g. between pump and spool valve, the boom might fall sudenly. The valve (in cartridge form behind hex plug) permits a certain oil flow but if greater flow occurs then it "locks out". These valves also require a back pressure to work correctly, again an airline might not be enough to overcome this minimum setting to allow flow.

4) pressure limiting valves

Where presure to service should be limited below relief valve setting. Any excess is dumped to tank via cross line. Unlikely to be these, as no back pressure required, so air flow would be A to A1 no problem.

As to trouble with main spools, what happens to air flow when spool is operated in other direction?

?Could be spool and housing is assembled back to front.

?Might be wrong spools in block (e.g. single acting spool in double acting block).

?Might be a Closed Centre unit (where pump builds up max pres. in spool valve line and then stops pumping, when you operate a spool the pressure drops and pump starts flow - older John Deere tractors (1970's / 80's) were all like this, but not commonon application on truck cranes).

I can't help anymore without playing about with it - why not ask Santa for a new spool valve assembly ;-)

Just uncovered this stock pile of tires.

 

At 4 banks of 30 long x 10 wide x 10 deep, that's 12,000 tyres visible here, or 1,200 jimmys worth.

Which according to Red Ball statistics :coffee2: , would have lasted them about 6 days at peak useage in September '44 :schocked: Or would keep us lot going for a year or so :whistle:

yes the LOTUS was what I was looking for along those lines ...any thing on Land Rover or Rover ?

 

Hmm, A friend runs a Landrover repair shop.

Along the lines of "Toys R Us" I suggested he rename his business -

Landrovers R U/S I had to run fast!

Anyone else still waiting for overalls? :cry:

I hadn't noticed the furry thing...

 

It's winter time, now the sugar beet are lifted the rats venture in after anything chewable -

wiring, canvas (especially new canvas), seat squabs, wouldn't be surprised if bar treads were on the menu too :angry:

Heard back from Thetford Grammar School history man - they feel we have done as much as they would normally achieve, and not really that interested in using our man as a project. It seems they do "old boys" only. Oh well. Cannon fodder springs to mind.

Will await further news from the Regimental museum.

I am advised that copies of Trench Maps from WFA chap will take 10 days or so due to some difficulties with printing large files - they are write protected so cannot be copied. When these come I will consider getting hold of a CD if we need it (suppose it could go in the clubhouse library?), alternatively I could buy just the maps we need once you guys have studied them :dunno:

Till then :sleep: :sleep:

Has anyone ever commented on your resemblance to a woodland animal? Do you find it hard to reach the pedals? ;-)

 

That's my neighbour - I was taking the photos from a high-lift access platform :whistle:

Has someone been spiking the clubhouse drinks again?