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Yes, Rick, they are gmc tippers.

 

Well, No, Rick - I think only one of them (at the back) might be, the one in the foreground looks more like a Diamond T 4 ton, judging by the style of the front wings and body sitting slightly higher. :oops:

Thanks Rick.

Lawson - if you fancy some original - looking dents in your buck using real concrete rubble, we must get your tipper and the Osgood together when it's up and running :whistle:

Yes, Rick, they are gmc tippers. But even better an Osgood 600 is loading them :banana:

Is there any chance you could email me a high quality copy of this pic? :flower:

Neil,

I was going to ask you about the painting you posted, but have just found it by an internet search.

If anyone is interested (no wallspace left but am so taken by the story I will try to get one :whistle:), it is available as a 11" x 15" print from http://www.stormbirdsannex.com - look under Aircraft Art - Iverson, it is titled "An Act of Chivalry". Looks to be a fine art print at approx. £18 plus postage. The detail is very good - two tasters at full resolution on the site.

There is also a description of the incident, which I have blatantly copied as it gives another take on the story.

This fascinating event occurred in December of 1943 when Charles Brown and the crew of "Ye Olde Pub" were nursing their badly damaged B-17 back home. They happened to fly directly over Oberleutnant Franz Stigler's fighter base. Stigler had already shot down two other B-17s that day and quickly took off and caught up with Ye Olde Pub to make it kill number three.

As Stigler moved in to fire, he noticed how badly damaged the B-17 was. There were gaping holes in the fuselage and half the rudder and horizontal stabilizer was shot off. The tail gunner did not fire, so he closed in and could see blood dripping off the .50 caliber tail guns. Inside, Stigler could see the crew members frantically tending to the wounded. At that point, he felt that shooting down the aircraft would be like shooting men in their parachutes.

Stigler pulled up along side the B-17 and motioned for Brown to land in Sweden. However, Brown continued towards home. When they reached the coast, Stigler saluted, pulled up and flew back to base. If his actions had become know, he would have been court-martialed and possibly shot for letting an enemy bomber escape.

A great story, thanks for posting.

It's good to be able to read about acts such as this, but I just hope we are spared having to experience the real thing...........

Tony

I found some cammo nappies the other night (was looking for Joris) but never got a chance to post it up. If you google "images" cammo/camouflage + nappies/diapers/babygro you'll find a shed load of stuff out there!

Beats working outside in the cold on trucks.........

Thanks very much!

Issue number anyone?

Agreed, and what a shame that it might go the same way as classic cars or tractors (crazy prices :shake:). The sheer bulk and specialist interest of some vehicles puts these people off, but still enough interest amongst speculators to squeeze out the genuine enthusiast. And a lot of these investment vehicles just get squirrelled away out of sight :-(

Someone remarked on here recently that a dealer price for rough GMC trucks was far too high, and that in 10 years they would be no good for anything, but fast forward 10 years and Clive's reasoning might make the current asking price seem quite reasonable, whether we like it or not :dunno:

Whatever, it still comes back to SUPPLY (from wherever) and DEMAND (by whoever)

Tony

Years ago there was a very interesting article (4 or 5 pages plus) on The Making of the film Memphis Belle in a magazine. I borrowed it and made a copy. It included detail on wood silhouette mockups of taxiing planes and a lot of model making input.

A while later up on the local airfield with the gmc I met a young couple and they came back for tea - we got talking about the film and I gave them my copy thinking I would do another, but then I could not remember who I had borrowed what magazine from!

Any ideas on which magazine it might have been?

Can anyone with manuals help with the Maker / Model number of the gearbox and transfer box please?

I'm trying to find out if a full engine power PTO can be fitted to either main or transfer box.

The winch model (hydraulic drive) has a PTO mounted on rear face of main box which looks a lot tougher than most.

Are there any weaknesses with this truck compared to the Bedford?

Cheers,

Tony

Rzeppa

 

Wasn't he one of the Mark brothers?

The first Babe Magnet pic looks like some form of entrapment - see how the pretty lady has been shackled to the tank?

Agricultural - plenty converted here and in USA/Canada. Hasn't John Marchant at Milton Keynes still got one

This one is (? certainly was) owned by Robert Crawford, seen at a ploughing contest in 2000. Picture from a very interesting website - http://www.inter.nl.net looking at after uses of these tanks

The trouble with the Sunderland was A never enough of them, B Being flying boats they were prone to weather and sea state affecting availability.

 

I meet up occasionally with an ex wartime navigator of a Sunderland, spent time in Hong Kong.

The amazing thing was that they could not take off if the water was too smooth (hull suction), so they sometimes had to send the harbour launch out to chop the surface up a little before takeoff!

He had a great respect for the marque, said it was like being posted to a floating hotel, complete with even a workshop and lathe!

Thanks, Steve.

Re. the Lanc vs. B17, my view is based greatly on the look of the aircraft (totally irrational I know).

But given that this is how a lot of people come to have a favourite, I wonder if their (our) view would be altered if they saw a Lanc in polished aluminium or green top/silver underside, alongside a B17 in the RAF night raid colouring :dunno:

Mosquito Crash - Accident was due to a very unsusual carburettor failure......

 

My dad bless him used to get really worked up and upset whenever a twin-engined plane crashed at a display.

His reasoning was that (and he flew twin engines most of the war) the most dangerous manoeuvre you could do with a twin engine was to coast along at low altitude and then lay the power on hard, as you would often see at displays.

He reckoned that no two engines would ever pick up revs at the same rate, and often one would splutter and falter, result other engine powers plane into the dirt :shake:

I've never known a crash to be attributed to this cause, which is interesting. Was he really wrong? :dunno:

I made a mistake with the number of TM 10-1269 which I've corected.

R3, I think this is the one you need, am I right in thinking it is a compilation of the individual component manuals? :dunno: On the other hand, judging by your steering box rebuild you seem to manage quite well without it :-D

So is that the most important manual to have, which shows all the parts of the truck in exploded views and details all the bits on how to take it to bits :-D

 

:dunno: There seem to be so many!

I have TM 9-801 which is a very good driver's andgeneral maintenance and major assy removal manual, but does not cover detail repair. It covers only open cab versions, but describes and illustrates all body styles.

I also have TM 10-1269 (this is the Portrayal one?) which covers major assy detail repair work, like setting up crownwheel/pinion and stripping out/rebuilding stering box)

Anyone got any ideas on which is the best overall manual?

:tup:

Mark, you really do need to get the TM for your truck, they are available from Portrayal Press and sometimes on ebay

 

Mark - if you don't like paper manuals and don't mind getting your keyboard oily, check out ebay item no. 310011698158.

It's a CD version of the TM10-1563 jimmy manual, this guy often has them advertised if you miss this one. Quite a cheap way of getting a manual. And you must get a manual

Tony

:oops2: I didn't mean to cheat!

The first item - 'round head' was abbreviated to 'rd hd' so that was 5 characters less.

Also the scew head adds 1/4" to the length, so it is 1/2" long.

So that makes it 126 characters per inch run of comonent.

The second one if you count the bolt head is 1 1/8"long, so that one is only 94 characters per inch run.

This must be beatable! :dunno:

I heard the African ones described on Radio 4 news today as "Technicals" - priceless name!

Barry, when you come to assess the entries, Id like you to know that my first entry worked out at (including spaces) 68 characters for a 1/4" long component, that's 272 characters per inch :-D :-D :-D

My second entry worked out at 106 characters for a 3/4 " long item, that's 141 characters per inch

What the h*ll am I doing, it's way past bed time, its all your fault, what did you start this thread at this late hour for? :angry: :angry: :angry:

Geting this back to a HMVF orientated topic, I talked with an importer 3 years ago about getting a 3 litre extra cab Hilux, one of a very large consignment confiscated by Spanish authorities from a vehicle ferry ship, en route to a middle eastern destination for use as gun trucks!! The thought of paying money up front and travelling to Barcelona to collect it was enough to put me off.......

And for 2nd prize (it's a little larger), how about

VAOS/G1/GA.10526 BOLT, BSF, steel, black, unmachined with hex nut, mushroom slotted, plain neck, mudguard, 5/16 in X 3/4 in

VAOS/Z2/ZB.12878 SCREW, BA, bright steel, round head, N0.4 x 1/4 in, rust-proof (draught excluder)

(for a Scammell Constructor G.S. 30 ton tractor Door Assy, Cab, LH) What's the prize? :-D