tony 1st you say that its an open forum 2nd you say about mv owners i also have mv,s alot of them 3rd you say if you dont agree with moderaters you should shut up are they the law 4th you said if you dont agree stop posting but originaly you said its an open forum which is it all to be im comfused no insult was meant (if thats how it has been misread ) but like we all agree this IS A FORUM