Pete Ashby

There are no silly questions only shared knowledge Keith,

Yes that's correct the two bolts through the wing brace into the frame are UNF. It's worth running a tap through the caged frame nuts and a wipe of copper grease on the bolts before you put the wing back on it makes taking it off at a later date easier.

Pete

Bad news indeed it's just plain careless. I will echo Paul, you must claim on his business insurance.

The really galling thing about this is that they have survived more or less intact for 70 odd years to be trashed at the last moment...... really sorry Ian I can well imagine your frustration and disappointment :(:(

Pete

Welcome to HMVF,

have you got any more photos of the Humber ? it's the sort of project that would make a good thread on the restoration forum.

Pete

I know that the Ford FGT was supplied by Ford of Canada in dismantled form to the UK and reassembled at Dagenham before being issued to the Army. If you watch a Ford film "Switchover" you can see a line of Ford FGT vehicles leaving the Dagenham factory.

Yes they were Robert, the first CMP's to enter the UK in May and June 1940 came in as part knock down and were assembled at the Southern Railway works in Southampton. When this plant was destroyed in a raid in December of that year assembly was then carried out the Citron main dealership in Slough and at certain London bus company garages. After mid 1941 depots began to be set up elsewhere around the UK notably at Dagenham Liverpool and Manchester.

Pete

Pete now I come to think of it wasn't there also a 2 Pdr portee or was that a field conversion ?

Yes your right Niels well remembered, 12 cabs they were only made in very small quantities, most were reconverted to 6 pounder towing tractors later in the war although one was/is in a Norfolk museum collection

and another one was for sale here in Wales part restored some years ago and did'nt one come up for restoration in your part of the world a few years ago ?

Pete

By all means dive in to the field of commonwealth vehicles they are lovely

Never a truer word Niels,

CMP's are in a class of their own both in build detail and type diversity and an area that has until recently been somewhat overlooked by the main stream collecting movement.......... Go Canada !!

Pete

The short answer Julian is that the CMP range of artillery tractors were manufactured by both Ford and Chevrolet as:

FAT 25 pounder limber and gun tractors in 11, 12 and 13 cab variants

LAA Bofors tractors in 12 and 13 cab versions

Portee for the 6 pounder anti tank gun

15cwt 13 cab Polsen cannon mounts

A small number of Ford only produced Bofors self propelled tractors which were based on the 60cwt frame.

Ford and Chevrolet CMP's have a low level of commonality other than looking out ward similar (but not identical) commonality exits in some, but not all, body parts, brake shoes and some but not all power train bearings, winches were universally Ford supplied and on later 13 cab variants standard instruments although even here Ford used electrical gauges for temp and oil pressure .

Join MLU Hanno will sort you out they will give you chapter and verse over there

Pete

Morning Julian, we all know Dodges are better, but ...

Your playing with fire Laddie :box:

Hi Pete a mate of mine is a blacksmith and he made them for me, I tried but failed dismally

Ah, I was thinking they looked like they had been done with a press nice job.

Pete

Did you fold up the brackets ?

Pete

These are great photos, Pete, and the Bedford ones are apparently unknown to Vauxhall archives but probably taken by a VM staff photographer, as they are in sequence with other known ones.

 

The ones of all the Bedfords lined up in the street are Kimpton Road, Luton, which now looks very different; see:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8746791,-0.397379,3a,75y,144.6h,82.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPKeScHb1I3Q6h0MKkMF2QQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

 

I assume the factory gate & shift change ones are at the tank & ordnance factory (factories?) shown. The tanks are definitely at Nuffield Mechanisations as there are other photos of the same factory that are known to have been taken at Nuffield.

Can't take any credit for the pictures other than finding and copying the link from a FB page, I thought they deserved a wider audience here. I don't think I have seen any of them before with the exception perhaps of the MW's lined up in the street.

Certainly a very different view today Sean to the point of no discernable reference points thanks for the link.

Pete

Excellent find, do we know where the location of the factory gate and street is ?

I thought it may be at the Nuffield factory ?

Pete

http://www.cable-tec.co.uk/

Thanks, might be useful for a pending project.

Pete

Nice work Alistair :thumbsup: interesting thread very much enjoying reading about the progress so keep posting the pictures.

As an aside, which firm is making your brake cables up ?

Pete

Mk 1 Canadian Universal Carrier Headlight body, bezel and light unit retainer ring all in first class condition, clean and in zinc undercoat £140.00 plus postage at cost to anywhere in the world.

This item has now been sold on another forum thanks

Pete

Thanks for posting that Pete, some nice images of early mw, s

I thought you Bedford chaps would like those, there are some very nice early carrier pictures and an excellent set covering the Cruiser Mk IV or Mk IVA ?? as well as some very atmospheric period assembly line shots.

Pete

101 interesting early war factory photos here taken at Luton Bedfordshire ? and at Nuffields Birmingham ?

Pete

Just love the look of these pre/early war trucks :thumbsup: looking good

Pete

Very nice work Guy keep the photos coming

I'm very much enjoying following this thread :thumbsup:

Pete

You don't say what the temperature gauge reading was Tim.

If it was reading 212F when your rad cap blew then it could be the result of one or a combination of the following:

Failing/stuck thermostat

Blown head gasket

Blocked radiator

Slipping fan belt

Failed water pump

If the reading was below 212F:

Blown head gasket

A compression and leak down test coupled with a vacuum gauge on the inlet manifold will confirm this.

Failed or missing rad cap gasket

Blocked or restricted overflow pipe

Pete

It sounds like to much torque has been applied to the front housing because the rear wasn't supported. Hopefully with a bracket installed on the rear, it shouldn't happen again.

I would be a little bit suss that the lower flange bolt was loose/missing as well.

As you've said Chris the rear support bracket needs to be in place with both front flange bolts and the three fixings points drawn up equally spanner tight.

Pete

I would try asking the question here http://ww2talk.com/forums/forum/115-remeraoc/.

The unit war diary is the definitive source these are held at the National Archives Kew, the official web site is not the best for finding this sort of thing so if you want to pursue this let me know and I'll give you the name and link of a researcher who has found and copied a number of obscure war diaries for me at very reasonable cost.

I have no connection with him other than a satisfied customer.

Pete

Nice photos chaps thanks for sharing.

It's good to see after all the uncertainty that has surrounded W&P that the show still managed to field some rare and interesting vehicles, this was always the strong point of the show in that it attracted rare and little seen examples.

Pete

Nice photos :thumbsup:

Pete

Thank you Bob and Peter for the positive comments, they are very much appreciated.

When I've completed the top section and locking assembly I'll post another update. Currently I'm converting my old slurry pit into a large workshop so it may be a couple of months before I return to this thread.

regards

Pete