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Clive do you have an manuals on the braking/Air system on these trailers - if so is it possible to email me some copies. Many Thanks

 

Ian, I'll email you the brake section of EMER WHEELED VEHICLES U 262/2 which is the Technical Description which seems to cover all makes 2-Ton 4-Whld trailers in the FV2500 series, so hope it might help. Its 8 pages on braking so bear with me, I'll put it in a pdf if thats alright.

You can always introduce youself to people so they know who you are!

But will those who won't use a real name be too shy break their confidentiality by revealing themselves to us?

You can buy the iron-on sheets of paper form somewhere like W H Smiths and print your own name off then iron it on or maybe that could be done when the shirts are sent out. One sheet of paper must hold loads of names then just cut of the name you need and send with the shirt ?????? or get Jack to iron it on :rofl: Thats the best i can come up with at the moment.

Ah the trouble with those is that you mustn't machine wash or use anything other than warmish water. Otherwise it comes off again. Nor iron it, but I don't think many people iron T shirts.

I bought one of those kits (the "free" T shirt is always XXL which is curious as there is a picture of a child on the front wearing the product) Anyway I have made several T shirts with pictures of my vehicle. The problem is not only is it a bore hand washing but they get very grubby at shows. This is a combination of sun oil, all the various fluid our vehicles excrete, beer, curry, Beltring dust etc

And of course now one can be more prolific with digital photo taking! I can recall trips to Ludgershall thinking I've only so many rolls of film left I better save some films in case I see something better!

only the one on Otterburn that Steve Osfield found.

Adrian, I have seen some pictures of it taken by Steve. I don't think it was a water cannon, the other variants were APC & prison van although the roles did seem to change with time.

I know these were fitted in 70's to pig's etc what other vehicles had them, or was it dependant on local command etc.

Have picked a nice clean set up off ebay, and would like to fit to my Rover 1 did this happen ? I think i've heard of it.

Also has anyone (Clive??) got info on the westminster

 

Regards Hardyferret :-D

 

I've got the civy workshop manuals & some EMERs for various Westminsters. But is it AM or FM, HI band or LOW band, dash mount - I assume but there was a boot mount. You should have asked me I have about 6 Westminsters of various sorts.

Unless you are going for NI set up I doubt if a LtWt would have Westminsters. Pigs definitely had as there was an EMER issued. There is a very nice (IWM pic I think) of a Mk 1 pig ambulance being led out on patrol by a RM Rover 1 with red crosses being driven by a padre. The pig has an aerial but the Rover seems not to be equipped.

A bit of everything! I have seen over the years:-

 

Adrian did you ever come accoss any Commers (as in RUC) there was a grey one on Otterburn ranges. Just trying to account for them all, which I think totalled 14.

Keep taking the pills Clive but dont let them near you with that scrapey thingy :whistle: :whistle:

 

Oh you found it painful then?

I see there is no option for a blue serge jacket :naughty:

The trouble is you can only have a meaningful relationship with one vehicle at a time. The hunt, the chase, the courtship, the deal, the novelty, the getting it home, the first time out together. Then the novelty will either wear off or the new one is the one you want to be with all the time to the detriment of the others.

I have a Shorland that I haven't driven for 10 years & pre-SORN and a pig that I haven't attempted to repair after 5 years when it started doing 20 mpg of OIL. But Jack I suppose you are younger & have more energy & can spread yourself about more, on the vehicles. But sometimes people end up with an automotive harem that they are unable to keep pace with :naughty:

Pigs......poooorr pppooorrr Pigs :cry:

 

What had they done? , some have wheel stations still? hmm.... can i just wander out and dismantle?

 

Paul, look at the notice carefully not just for what it says but it looks as it has got hit by shrapnel, which is a bit sobering.

Yep Its post 1964, think it was either 1972 or 75? Any info or pictures would be interesting.

 

Looking in a 1974 Catalogue of Army Publications there is a User Handbook for the Trailer Chassis, 2-ton, 4-whld, Brockhouse it is Army Code No.60976. But looking in a 2001 Catalogue it is no longer listed. Yes would be interested in the FV number esp the suffix & the full asset code also the NSN if that is shown. But there may still be a User Handbook for the body once we find out what it's role was.

Whats good to see is the Brockhouse name on the trailer - Now Clive (fv1620) brockhouse did do a 2 ton trailer by the looks of it ?????

What does the 2 ton refer to - body weight - load it can take ? - I put my one on a weight bridge empty and it came up 3480kg.

Well dang me you are quite right Brockhouse it is :bow:

What date is it? It's curious that there are no 4-whld 2-ton trailers attributed to Brockhouse in the Equipment Regulations of 1964 that lists the census codes of all vehicles. So is it post 1964? I can't quite read the Census Code 3075-3??5 is there a FV number?

2 ton is the load the trailer can carry. So 2 tons & 3480 kg approximate pretty well to 5.5 tons.

My understanding is that red over blue like that is RA RHQ, (batteries are blue with a red square 1/4 the size of the badge in any of the four corners) Any tac signs for the RA were a letter or two & if "2" was used identified a second in command.

Postwar "45" indicates Div Loc Bty for a TA unit

Can someone help an idiot find the pics of the pigs please :oops:

 

They're here:

http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/plainmilitary/Plain%20Military%20wrecks/?start=20

West humber targets are

Tony excellent that you have recorded the numbers.

About half of them were struck off 1967-69 then recovered in 1972 & in 1973 made into Mk2. About a quarter of them have appeared in books official & unofficial.

You have probably spotted this coming but are there pictures of them all?

Used by the Norwegians :-D

 

Dare one ask how many are marked up as US vehicles pretending they took part in D-Day?

Hello Clive I used to think that but if it helps our troops learn the tricks of there trade then alls well. The new rules of the ranges is that they are not allowed to hit the target but get as close as they can. According to the target sheet I have here there are 20 Humbers on the centre range and 21 on the west range. I have no VRNs for any of the vehicles on the centre but all for the west range. I will email them to you.

Hope this helps.

Tony

 

Yes its better that they die in action rather than the hot spanner of a scrapyard. Even if they were all saved I doubt if there are 1,700 enthusiasts who would each want a pig. I have two & even if each Pig enthusiast did the same still there would be too many to go round. Although I don't see why not!

Aiming for a near hit, that's an interesting way of preserving targets. So if you hit the target then you have missed!

Yes that would be great to have a list of pigs & a good bit of common sense recording it all.

Tony, that's fascinating but heartbreaking. I used go Johns scrapyard up there & strip things off the pigs before they got put out as targets. Presumably the pigs are pretty stripped bare inside now?

I see some still had registration plates, the only one I could be certain of reading was 23BK40. On the others I had difficulty being certain of the last two digits. Have you got a record of them or got other views that would cliunch the identity?

I do have records of all 1,700 Pigs & listings of pigs I have in photos taken by myself or appeared in books, newsreels etc It's always nice to gather as much info as poss even if it is a rather pathetic end of life on the plain. Thanks.

WOW :-o Clive that is one nice bit of kit there, assuming it is your's

 

Yup that was at the RAC Centre Bovington 2001 reunion of the Para Sqn RAC 25 years after disbandment. There was a group photo later with Gen Sir Mike Jakson sat in front of the Hornet.

Come on Clive the Humber should be under the sexiest post war armour - Not truck sectrion

Yes, Humbers are so versatile! This is the oldest Pig in the world FV1609, but the most expensive Humber is entered in the armour section (£90 million for 24 vehicles in 1963)

Well it has to be the thing on the right that can destroy the thing on the left.

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Looks like the Truck, Humber 1-Ton, Armoured wins. Sugga is a car & I hate to say it so is a Ferret, albeit with rather unusual embellishments ;-)

Those vehicles are all very well but can they claim a service life of 40 years? The prize winner surely has to be the Humber 1-Ton FV1600 Series. The chassis & engines built in 1953 & continued in service until April 1993. Looking pretty h*rny I think after all this time!

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or perhaps I am just blind ! Nigel

Nigel no you're not blind but the event wasn't really about military vehicle spares. I was looking for quite different things from you, Humber 1-Ton bits. I found some track rod ends but that was it. But rightly or wrongly it is predominantly a uniforms & kit event. I know this perfectly well but I still keep going just in case I might miss something!