Brooky

More Matadors in civvie street

The first two were in service with Carters Fair

The survivor in the UK used to be based in Milton Keynes (I think) the registration number was K 7611 and it was built in 1918.

I do remember it at some HCVC rallies in the late 70's and early 80's.

Does it still survive I wonder.

I am sure I have a photo of iy somewhere, will have to start digging again!!

Brooky

Derived from my surname.

Was called it at school and years later am still called it by work mates

Another CS8, this one was owned by me and is now resident in North Yorkshire.

The CS8 in America was I think restored in Lancashire and exported.

Found it at last

A picture of Noyces SUCOE at the GDSF.

Do any examples survive in military trim?

Crossley perhaps

I posted the colour photo of the Commer Q2 on another thread a bit ago.

The vehicle lives in west Cumbria and I believe the owner has a QM trailer (under restoration) to go with it.

The photo was taken at the Cumbria Steam & Vintage Vehicle Society rally at Flookborough 5 years ago

I reckon it could be produced by the Roadless Traction concern. This firm was founded by Lt Colonel Philip Henry Johnson and went on to produce conversions of Ford and Fordson tractors.

A picture of a preserved Commer Q2.

I believe the owner has a trailer to go with it. It lives in North Cumbria

Definately looks like a logging arch to me.

Thinking about the WOT2, I know that a penthouse version was made as I have seen IWM photos, and that a contract was placed for a WOT2 to have an AA gun on the back, but I have never found an example of either. Would be nice to track something down.

Have been looking through some info and it would seem that the penthouse version was very similar to the GS version except that the canvas body was higher and the canvas was a special design to allow a tent to be erected on either side. The size of the tents on either side were 6'10" long, 6'6" wide and 6' 3" high. It seems its official name was Truck 15cwt 4x2 Office Ford WOT2H.It would also appear that the spare wheel was mounted on the tail board (as Bedford MWR)

Try this website.

Mainly about Morris Commercials however some very good pages about 15cwt bodies

http://www.geocities.com/vk3cz/index.html

The adverts really sum up the era.

Drivers who have been in HM pay might become the haulage contractors of the future.

So why not play on that

A subject not explored on here (to my knowledge!) Is wartime advertising using military vehicles.

Ones that spring to mind are the "I am the........." series released by the motor industry and also the wartime Bedford advertising still promoting a 50% overload. (what would the man from VOSA say!!)

To start the ball rolling three from Morris Commercial. What is interesting is that the vehicles are early wartime (CS8 PU8 and CDSW) but the adverts come from 1944.

Are there any more out there?

morris 1.pdf

morris 2.pdf

morris 3.pdf

thought you might like a picture of the C8 on Guernsey. Picture taken in 2005 on the Liberation Tour

Yep thats the one!!!

I have a picture of it Dorset

No need to dig through the achive now!

Thanks chaps

Les

Thanks for that, the last time I saw it was in Battersea park at the start of a Brigton run in the early 80's.

Just got to look for the piccie of Noyces FWD now!!!

Me again!!

I know that there was also a Mack restored that was used by Billy Smarts.

As an aside the Billy Smarts Mack LMSW ended its days in the scrapyard at Molesworth ( a real treasure trove in its day!!) Again will try to dig out piccie.

I know that Noyces used a SUCOE with their gallopers. This was restored in the 80's (albeit reengined with a Leyland)

I will try to dig out a picture if you have not already seen it.

I was in Sheffield on Sunday and while driving around noticed a yard with some old lorries in it. I decided to stop and have a look and attached are two pics that I took on my phone. The yard was S Harrison & Sons and I think they are/were road hauliers.

I couldnt get any closer, but I'm sure that the white lorry is a Pioneer (without an engine I must add). There was also five Scammell Highwaymans in the open and also from what I could see at least two covered up along with an Albion which was in an open fronted shed.

Yes quite right, they were road hauliers (dont know if they are still in business) and were famous for the fleet of Scammell Highwayman that they ran that were converted with a second steer axle to allow them to run at 32tonnes. I can remember coming down off Woodhead pass on a foggy morning in 1994 to be confronted by one of these contraptions fully freighted heading towards Manchester.

The Pullman looks to have one of the worst possible uses of 'Mickey Mouse' disruptive. The dark upper surface is correct but the colour change on the trim line with just a token dip doesn't do much to break up the outline. Anyone restoring a vehicle like that would probably take some flak but it's authentic !

I think you are right, however the photos are genuine wartime and came from Humber themselves.

however if anyone did paint one like that there is the proof!!

Brilliant, thanks for posting...

No probs, they were taken by my brother when he was troop commander in Paderborn. Sorry cant remember which regiment they were. When I see him I will ask and also try to blag some more photos!

Some piccies of Pioneers in civvy street. Some of these vehicles had longer lives in civilian use than in service.

How about these for early Ward La France pictures. They were taken from a brochure prepared by WLF for the British Purchasing Commision in 1941, they were trying to sell trucks to us. These predate the wrecker we know and love. The wrecker in the picture is descibed as specialized tractor and was built for Rock Island Arsenal and was one of 69 units built.

Thought the following pics may be of interest.

All taken of Antars in service in Germany late 70's