Dougy FV432

Hello All,

DaveP & I did his 434 about a month ago, and I seemto remeber it was an inch & 11/16ths for the big nut. At work on my fone at mo so can't give a link, but if u go to http://www.fv432.co.uk and look at a video to get to YouTube page there is a video of us adjusting & I'm sure I say the size, if u can hear past the birds!

Dougy

Hi All,

Just a bit of a bump, I hope the moderators don't mind me starting a new thread again of same topic. But I have noticed a lot of new 432 owners out there. Please pass on you vehicle details to the 432 site with a pic and we can add it to our list.

We're slowly updating the site, have lots of pics, vids and info to add, its just finding the time to get it and put it all together.

If anyone has any pics or info they can share please get in touch.

thanks in advance

Dougy

Hi All,

Has been a while, but thank you all for your replys. I didn't think the Abbot made it to the first Gulf. Does anyone know what the "gunless" abbots did, were they carriers or forward observation posts or driving aids?

Thanks again

Dougy

Hi All,

Apart from the road legal side of buying a 432. Try and get one with good running gear. This seems the hardest (costly) part to replace, as not many parts are being released. Most replacements available are from vehicles being broken.

As for the rest of a vehicle, depends which type you want? A couple of 434's have been available lately, but with parts of crane missing, and I imagine impossible to find. As for the 439s, the couple of variants have loads of extra kit to go with them, and not always supplied, and a lot heavier. But a few of them have been refurbished with new wheels etc! As for a standard 432, lots being released at the moment, one very nice one went through although had a major oil leak, it must of had thousands spent on it.

See vid...

Basically try to get as a complete vehicle as possible, they are around. Comms kit is easy to get at the moment, well if you want clansman.

Hope this helps

Dougy

Hi All,

I suppose I will stick my neck out, I made this guide for the 432 website, just haven't got around to uploading it!

I've had quite a few enquiries about which oils to use, so here goes!

Fv432 Lubrication Guide

The MOD lists OMD 75 (previously OMD 110) for the following..........

Rolls Royce K60

Allison Semi auto Gearbox

Steering Box

Wheel Hubs

OMD 15 is listed for the Governor Housing

OEP 220 for Final Drives

And a hydraulic oil for the Cooling Fans

OMD 75/110 (Oil Mineral Detergent) equates to SAE 30, I was advised against using a multi-grade oil such as 5/30W as these can break down to the thinner grade under hot conditions, hence sticking to straight 30W. It was also suggested that an SAE40 can be used if a vehicle is working hard, as the high temperatures in the engine bay, can still make the SAE30 go thin. This includes the hydraulic fan system.

OEP 220 (Oil Extreme Pressure) equates to EP90, it is needed as the oil is required to stick to the “teeth” and resist being “squeezed” out from between the “teeth” when coming in “contact”.

OMD 15 (Oil Mineral Detergent) it was suggested a “Red” Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) was best suited for the Governor housing. We all know the importance of keeping this topped up. If allowed to run dry, the rack in the FIP can stick over to full throttle, regardless of the accelerator pedal position, resulting in loss of control of the vehicle! Keep checking it as just because there are no signs of an external leak, it doesn’t mean it hasn’t leaked back internally into the Fuel Injection Pump (FIP)

The small print,

This is based on info from various sources over the years, and is only a guide and I or the 432.co.uk website hold no reponsibilty for any damage or loss from this guide.

I hope this helps

Dougy

Hi All,

Heres my two pennies worth, the barrel looks odd, not got the flared muzzle as I would expect on a rarden. And without looking at another vehicle, the smoke discharger looks upside down.

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

As the title says,

I have been asked through the 432 website, what was the role and position of the Abbot.

I know there was a bit of an article in the MVT windscreen mag recently, but I can find it again.

Basically, what was its purpose, yes I know it was a SPG, but was the Army's criteria that it filled. What Regiments would have had it. What was its involvement in the 1st Gulf conflict. Did it go to Bosnia. Any information really.

Thanks in advance

Dougy

Hi All,

Just added this post tho the 432 in tracked vehicles, this thread and that one seem to cross over,

MOD EDIT http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?18783-432-s&p=205899#post205899

Hi Jez,

Have a look on this link.

http://www.fv432.co.uk/wwwfv432couk/fv434pages/434titlepage.htm

Some pics of a 434. It is DavePs a member on this forum. If what you want is not there, let us know exactly from what angle you want as I am going up to help fix it this weekend and we can get a couple of extra pics.

There is another set of a few pics of the 434 in the last tender

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/Dougyfv432/fv434%2001ED86/

Hope this helps

Dougy

www.fv432.co.uk

Hi John,

I am in Worcester, not a million miles away. I have had my class 1 for 21yrs now, and used it to drive professionally for most of them, and to transport my own fv432 to shows. Unfortunatly I can no longer afford to run mine now, but would be happy to help, if you can't find anyone near to home.

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

Thanks for the info, I will pass it on. Has anyone got any more info on the type of repair CL1? or the "type"

Neither my lightweight or 432 ever showed any signs of data plates, and i had them both direct (as possible) from the MOD. I know it seems my lightweight was a bit of an oddball, with some holes in weird places, but the seat box shows no signs of holes for a plate, or where it had been.

regards

Dougy

Hi all,

I have been asked by Gary who has contacted me through my fv432 website. On his data plate it has marked on it that it had a CL1 type repair in 1988. Can anyone shed some light on what this would have entailed and where the workshop was/is. And what is a mk2 "type B" ?

Just out of curiosity, neither my 432 or my lightweigt seem to have had a data plate, is this common?

Thanks in advance for any help and info

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

Thanks again everyone for the info, I believe the GPMG in the smaller pics on this page is the correct one for a turret mount

http://www.fv432.co.uk/wwwfv432couk/armament/GPMGpics.htm

It has the fume extractor and smaller barrel lever etc, have some better pics somewhere.

Regards

Dougy

Hi again All,

Chas, your mates 439 looks clean and complete, hope he is pleased with it, and i hope the gens are ok! Good that he got it registered with ease, hope he didn't stretch the truth, (I think it would only take one incident and the MoT would come down on our hobby with a ton of bricks). Just don't make your first voyage on the road, get the feel for it before you do, and take him with you as an extra pair of eyes. Make sure the intercomm is working, makes life so much easier!

Roger, I'm not sure if this is the means to raise the mast, seems some sort electric driven pump.

Its mounted close to the underside of where the mast is mounted.

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

thanks for all your replies, has been very informative especially about the spec of the GPMG John. And yes Alan, if that sort of thing was to happen it would happen to me!

Going back to the VCR act, if you had a replica prior to it being enforced and you don't meet requirements now, where do you stand, would you no longer be able to display it on your vehicle? Is there documentation that goes along with a replica similar to a deact?

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

Robin, I think the ones in the tender had a guide price of £6500, if they realisticaly reach it, that is anyones guess. The only way to know for sure is to contact them.

As for the masts, it seems funny that there seems to have been a lot of the scam masts for sale recently. There was fv439 RR version sold up there at the last tender with its mast

http://www.fv432.co.uk/wwwfv432couk/variants/Fv439%20ptarmigantype1page1.htm

I have mentioned earlier in this thread that we saw one with its generators fitted but the sump bungs missing!

When you refer to the diesel engines I assume you mean the K60 pack. First if you were intersted in one of the 439s make sure it HAS got a pack and that it runs and go from there. I think they are a pretty reliable pack compared to the B81.

Regards

Dougy

Hi Robin,

this is one of the projects for the fv432 website, but unfortunately it is nowhere near completion. I have answered your request for contact details. It depends on what you class as CES which includes stuff that you will never use or was never used and basic tools to look after the vehicle out of the UK.

Have you a particular member of the family that you are interested in?

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

Just as a matter of interest, regarding 432s. A big batch of them are **EA**. We have been trying to link the hull nos to vrns, mine is 10EA15 with hull number 815. DavePs is 17EA69 with a hull num of 1569, we managed to see 17EA68 and it has a hull num of 1568. Also 08EA41 hull num is 041. Notice any pattern, well we thought so until you go to 05FA68 and it num is F303 ?! And Dave's fv434 01ED15 is 042, but they appear to follow that the block of **ED** allocated to fv434s 01ED15 was the 42nd built.

Are you all still awake??????

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

Well done Roger, it all seems to be coming together now! Was good to get to see inside the radio relay version. Just need to see a exchange vehicle now.

Shame you haven't got any pics of them set up in service Chas, but looking forward to you getting pics of your friends.

Yes, Stone they do seem to "loose" some of their kit along the way! But Ferretkitt the one(05FA68) with the stuff piled up in the back had more bits with it, it had the support legs for the scam mast and the frame for the mast was chucked in the back. The interior trim seemed tidier, the other one (17EA68) had a bit of a puddle going on up the front, guess where the hatches had been left open. Both had engine panels removed or open? and 05FA68 had the bungs missing from the generators.

They all seem to have good running gear, the 439s also seem to have heavier duty shock absorbers fitted.

The ones under cover down the bottom of the yard are the ones i would want to be lookiing if i was lucky enough to have the chance of one. They seem to have recently undergone an overhaul.

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

Excellant pics again Alan. Think the wombat might be stretching the budget to far!

Another question for everyone is, would the 432 carry just a standard infantry GPMG, i guess with a tripod, but would it have the heavy duty barrel? All the pics I've seen of them mounted on a 432 have a shoulder butt, so that would suggest standard, but you would have thought the heavier barrel as it would be surely giving support fire.

regards

Dougy

Hi Iain,

I sure there was a weird coloured 432 that went through the sales a year or so ago. Afraid I can't find any pics. There is a pic from the 1st Royal Sussex and 3rd Queens regt coming up on the website in the next couple of days and it states Danish troops riding on a 432, so there can be a connection!

I assume you own 17EA83, any chance of a pic for the website?

Regards

Dougy

Hi Again All,

Went to see some 439s today. Was able to see inside the radio relay version. There where two of them and even these had differences. Made a little video, not brilliant lighting but you can get the idea of the inside.

Had a closer look at the generaters on one of them, they looked like Onan 3.5kv ones, but diesel.

Both had their oil sump bungs missing and one the oil filter missing, seemed odd, do they "kill" them????

Chas, did you say you had pics of the 439s linked up, would be great to see them!

Regards

Dougy

HI all

Even the drivers CPC isnt straight forward. If you take your test after i think it was September this year then you need it, if you had a licence prior to then, you have 5 years to do it. It is 35 hours of training, but can be done in blocks over the 5 years. It has nothing to do with the CPC that you need to hold an operators licence.

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

Thanks for all your replies. Looks like i need to keep saving and get a real one then! Alan I know someone who had a 432 that had the 50cal mount, it was "real" they fitted them in the 1st Gulf war. Maybe I could get one of those might be cheaper!

Regards

Dougy

Hi All,

i believe you can drive a tractor solo on the new "C" lience. It used to be that a class 2 covered for a 6 and 8 wheeler and class 1 was artic. Now a "C" lets you drive rigid and tractor unit without modification. To tow a trailer you need the "E" bit.

Regards

Dougy