Scotch Harry

Are these any good?

Think I might have a couple of spare buckles.

Yes indeed - he must know a lot of retired Army officers!

 

He's got another very nice 1960 Pattern Combat Jacket at the moment with Major's crowns and Army Air Corps wings on it - he had another fairly recently (I think it was a better size though) which went for 'silly' money!

 

As I've now acquired a good pair of 1960 Pattern trousers, if anyone wants the 1952 pattern ones I bought at Detling, let me know - price is the £5 I paid for them plus post.

PM Sent.

A very nice example of the first pattern trousers mentioned above sold yesterday on eBay - Hogspear again! Whilst i would have liked to have added this missing first issue to my examples of the 2nd and 3rd issues I just couldn't justify the £80+ they eventually sold for!:shocked:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1952-Dated-Double-Thickness-Olive-Green-Windproof-Type-Combat-Trousers-FZV-/140860530297?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item20cbf11e79&nma=true&si=3DG1A%2Bz75O7I%2FAfBcqAFveLwPEs%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I Hattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttte Hogspear,why I cant I have the constant supplies of amazing items he always has:embarrassed::embarrassed::embarrassed::-D

Thanks for every bodies suggestions,will this mystery ever get solved I wonder?:D:D

I haven't a clue either ! But I would be inclined to agree with this......some kind of equipment harness ? It was not unusual for the military to adopt existing designs as a basis for specialist kit, particularly with webbing........

 

It looks British to me ! Any markings...?

No markings whatsoever unfortunately and the material and fittings certainly LOOK British at least.

No idea,it came with some other unissued 58 Patt bits and the fittings look British but have never seen one before so could be foreign?

Any ideas,no markings at all.

I dont buy or collect sealed patterns specifically but this was offered as a trade so couldnt say no;)

Not on the back but is stamped inside with makers marks and date.

Rear has the green anodised belt hooks.

Got me intrigued now,any pics please?

Anyone seen the very early mug with the different shaped handles...?

Also intrigued as to the "fact" that non British bottles are a different weight than British ones,would love to find out if thats true or not

The chains were certainly replaced by individual squaddies but they definitely were original to the early caps.

On the subject of the early metal(or whatever they are made of)I guess they were replaced for many reasons of which 2 I can think of myself-they are a bugger to close and easily cross thread and also while trying to close they have a tendency to make quite a high pitched squealing noise,not very good in tactical situations I wouldnt think so a great idea changing over to rubber.

As far as I am aware, British 44ptn w/bottles have NEVER had a chain retainer,

The early ones did.

Unfortunately appears to be missing a label from the side of the hood.

I take it the DPM base is probably a later/aftermarket addition and not original to the bag itself?

Danish bottles(or at least all the ones Ive seen over the years) have been stamped.

Mark,I am of the same opinion/thought as you in that all the mugs that are unstamped/marked are NOT British issue but are either Nato or just commercial made copies.

At one time it was stated they were Danish but have had example of Danish mugs and these are stamped on the bottom.

Another question that has bugged the hell out of me is why are NONE(or none I have ever seen) of the bottles stamped/marked?

Again,like the mugs I have seen a Danish bottle,pretty much identical and that was stamped at the bottom.

Were there any British made exact M69 copies(not the later types)?

Thanks

Worn more with dress than combat uniforms.

Same here:D:D:D

Thank you. One tries.

 

If anyone is looking to sell, I'm still after reasonably tidy examples of the following early 1958 Pattern items:

 

- Pair of utility straps

- Large pack

- Right-hand ammo pouch (first type with stiffeners in the lid)

Problem is everything I see/watch,you win:nut::nut::nut::nut::-D:-D:-D

Only recently after years of searching managed to find an early 58 Patt pack and it needs some work unfortunately.

So over the moon with this,never knew there were British Made examples as thought they were all US supplied.

Thanks. The question occurred to me as I recently scored a mostly complete set of early 1958 Pattern webbing and I'm looking into the accessorisation. It seems to be a minor mystery.

Aye,have noticed you have been snaffling up some nice webbing lately:)

I have 3 or 4 of the Green bottles but have never personally come across a mug myself