Jerryjeeprichard

Started the strip down 5KW, it needs a lot of work.... ☹️

Here is progress so far. 

Update on progress,

Figured with all the nice weather over the last few weeks I should push on with the trailer.

I've managed to get all the smaller items stripped, de-greased, blasted and repainted. 

Treated the wheels two new 600 x 16 tyres.

So we are ready to start the rebuild when the chassis frame comes back from the blasters. 

Been a good few months since last time I posted, little update on progress.  

N

Hi Eric 

Few pictures if you have them? 

Maybe help identify the body type? !

On 3/25/2022 at 10:47 PM, Richard Farrant said:

You are correct in that the trailer appears to be from the WW2 period as the X census number comes up in the Chilwell list date Nov. 1944. That being said, I recall the trailers and generators which I worked on had post 1950 registrations numbers.  Also think the air cooled engine was 1950's as well. Thanks for posting the numbers up as it clarifies the period of manufacture.

Richard 

I have attached the data plate with the post war registration number, can that give an idea as to it later life. 

Is there any reference material on what the war time engine would have been, assuming the engine sat in it has been changed to air cooled version. 

Again I always associated the 6KV generator as 240v, but the data plate shows 110v?  

Few pictures below, I have acquired a few of these, Mixture late 44 through to mid 45,

Any thoughts on what they were, used for, I have searched the internet with no luck,  literally zero reference material, 

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks Richard for the post. 

I have a dilemma over the climax trailer, I was always of the opinion that these were late 40s early 50s, because of this so many have been broken up for spares for the GS trailers, ultimately my plans to get the donor parts i need for the 5KV 

The dilemma I have is over the chassis tag. (image below). 

Contract number is 23/9778

WD Number X6263811

Made by Taskers 

So by reckoning this is wartime??? 

There is additional data plate on the rear with a post war number too, just don't have a picture to hand. 

Thoughts? 

Latest trailer to join the collection. 

Again another quite rare trailer, typically needing a substantial amount of repair/restoration

Trailer came with a donor 6kv trailer, fitted with a Coventry Climax. 

Plan is at the moment to strip and figure out the parts i'm missing, 

Below pictures on the collection. 

Just an update on this weekends progress, Axles stripped, all component parts de-greased and ran through the blast cabinet. 

The bearings on the trailer were shot. So treated it to an new set of Timken's 

Getting the hubs of the drums was easy with the flypress, they went with a right CRACK, when they parted. Pushing the old bearing seats out of the hubs turned into particular nasty job ..... in the end I had to resort to welding some flat bar to give me some purchase on the fly press. 

Its easy to see how so many hubs have damaged threads, Without the press i'm not sure these would have come out with serious damage. 

They are located in Derbyshire. We’ll off the beaten track. 
When the weather improves slightly I go and see if they are still there. 
 

From memory we had deliberated recovering the wheels at the time. And gave up with size and weight. Vs location. 

That’s definitely them.
The shape is perfect…….
The history I know on them. They were fitted to a crudely made cart with a galvanised tank to providing drinking water for a remote cottage. 
Over years the cottage fell into decay. Eventually falling into the brook behind the cottage. This is where we found the first wheel. 
The second wheel didn’t surface for some years later and turned up significantly further down river.
I always thought they had some military connection but wasn’t sure.

We pulled both wheels out of the brook and up the bank. Just so they didn’t get washed away Whether or not they are still there as it was 12+ years since I walked that way. 

Anyone have an idea on what these trailer wheels may have been off? 

I’ve only just picked up on this thread, great find and great restoration. 
 

Have you got fixed up with wheel nuts? 

Can anyone help:- ?

I need to try an locate some of the brass latches, these would have been common on the generator trailers, welding trailers, maybe other vehicles of the period. 

I guess lots of these trailers will have been broken up for the wheels/hitches etc. 

I have four, although not in the best shape, another four will get me out of a fix, but eight in total would be fab. 

On 1/4/2022 at 5:09 PM, Niek Baecke said:

Ah, now i see the pictures of the front, yours appears to be a No1 MK2 too.
We're happy to help if you need any pictures/measurements.

Hi Niek

I will be starting the construction of the upper body over the next few weeks. 

I have a few questions

* I think i have enough of the original frame to dimensional piece back together, BUT, when I measure the angle iron on the frame, the bottom sections that bolt to the bed of the trailer look to be a heavier section than the uprights? Can you confirm this. 

* How is the wheel arch constructed I cant work this out. I've attached a picture of the trailer chassis, the chalk marks indicating the holes where the inner frame bolts down.... but how does this work with the wheel arch?

Thanks in advance. 

I feel slightly better now knowing the second trailer is a binned stores, at least the bottom half of the trailer will be all original. 

John 

Robs book on order, along with a load of other books I probably didn't need.....😆

So what your saying above is contract S7945 for "Trailer 10cwt 2wh Various Types" this could well be a binned stores, and the X numbers allocated correct too? 

Can we date the trailer off these numbers?  

Thanks John 

I’ve studied both chassis and the dimensionally check out exactly. Even down to holes drilled in the floor/ chassis.. 

What other trailers had the same chassis structure as the stores trailer 

And had a contract number S7948 or S7945? 
 

Is the contract data published anywhere to see what it should have been? 
 

Help! 
 

Spent this evening studying the trailer chassis,or whats left of it.............  😩

My anticipation was to strip, sandblast, replace the rotten parts, keep the chassis original  (or as much as possible). 

Its too far gone, sadly beyond economical repair.............. 

I do have a Plan B, which is a second trailer chassis, I purchased this again to strip of the useful parts.

I,ve never really studied properly till tonight.... The chassis is dimensionally the same of the binned stores trailer,  has the exact same frame configuration , even the holes on the trailer floor match. 

The data plate on this trailer just mild steel and not brass, which i though was very odd? Looks original to the trailer....  admittedly its in slightly better condition than the data plate on the other trailer which is mild steel too, So i'm guessing these are original..

  I can make out the following characters.  

X6147 3 or 8 39

OE15039

S794 8 or 5? 

Is there any way of associating the contract numbers vs the contract numbers issued for the binned stores trailer? 

The chassis on the second trailer does need some repairs........ but generally very good.... near excellent.

Reporting last weekends progress. 

The strip down had begun, Birds nest and all. 

Hi John 

I think that would make some sense, I doubt very much they would have removed the pintle hook off the rear of a jeep and replaced with a hitch that wasn't universal. 

Sorry, four types. 

Not document 50mm ball option, 

To my knowledge there were three hitch sizes 

The larger one we all know and see 3" Eye

Medium size one, 2"Eye 

Small one 1" Eye 

Whether or not these were all used on 10Cwt trailer I couldn't comment. Maybe someone with more knowledge knows? 

2 hours ago, 64EK26 said:

Hi

This is from the 1949 Parts Manual W.O.5460

 

Cheers

Richard

 

 Richard, 

thanks for sharing this, I had forgotten this manual has details on the binned stores, I need to dig my copy out, from memory they had cutaway views. 

Interesting the picture above shows a smaller towing ring. Or is just perspective of the picture? 

5 hours ago, Niek Baecke said:

Ah, now i see the pictures of the front, yours appears to be a No1 MK2 too.
We're happy to help if you need any pictures/measurements.

There is the skeleton of the frame remaining inside the trailer, I guess my best option is to draw this up, then if you could help patch the blanks that would be much appreciated. 

Not the best pictures, but you can  just make out the remains of the frame work inside the trailer, you can make out most of the rivet holes. 

Additionally studying the construction it just looks like the bins are simply bolted to the chassis