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Close-Up.... click to ENLARGE!!! DesertBlooms88

Excellent race photo's. I think this Robinson Pumper Engine is a similar vehicle FDNY - New York Fire Department vehicle circa 1913 - Photo shows Robinson pumper engine in the competition of motor pumper engines held by the International Association of Fire Engineers, New York City, Sept. 3, 1913. Library of Congress image, click link for LARGE MB downloadable file. http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2005014134/ Link to info and pics of Robinson fire fighting eqpt http://www.spaamfaa.com/robinson.html DesertBlooms88

Any idea what make the above photo vehicle is?

This is an image from the Library of Congress showing a New York city fire department competition in 1913. It is a very LARGE MB file with lots of detail which can be downloaded below. New York Fire Department vehicle circa 1913 - Photo shows competition of motor pumper engines held by the International Association of Fire Engineers, New York City, Sept. 3, 1913. Pumper engines drew water from the Hudson River. Library of Congress image ... click here to see photo in original context <a href="http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2005014138/" rel="nofollow">www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2005014138/</a> DesertBlooms88

Ref a BBC report from Sept 2012 about HMS Illustrious. I cannot understand why HMS Illustrious is being earmarked for preservation!!! Pity HMS Invincible was not selected for the helicopter operations upgrade instead of Illustrious as it has so much historical interest in comparison. DesertBlooms88

Here is a really nice quite large photo showing a Fairey Gordon aircraft with floats. Its good quality and i have noted from Wikipedia that 5 Gordons with Floats were sold to Brazil. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yhLfcXgr3k4/TeAlHPZiQcI/AAAAAAAACCM/HB_Ldq44Idw/s1600/Fairey_Gordan-Torres_decada+de+30.jpg Looking at the photo it could indeed be in South America. Nice photograph. DesertBlooms88

Here is a photo of a ' proper carrier ' ... HMS Ark Royal R09 at Portsmouth. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ueFB2UtjZi8/TNcGRvrSIBI/AAAAAAAANgU/ZRoooy72EVI/s982/Ark%2520visiting%2520Portsmouth%2520June%25201972.jpg Imagine if she was still there to go and visit. Ah well, all we have now is that great series SAILOR. DesertBlooms88

Just found this RARE view of a Fairey Gordon taking off af RAF LYDD in Palestine circa 1930's Right by the side of the runway. http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1246540/ Large photo of a Fairey Gordon sitting on its nose. http://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=195164&d=1305033374 DesertBlooms88

Fantastic photo here showing No 207 Squadron RAF and what looks like a circle of Fairey Gordon aircraft. http://www.207squadron.rafinfo.org.uk/gordons/gordons.htm DesertBlooms88

Here is a brief account of what happened to this aircraft - from http://www.adf-serials.com NZDF-SERIALS Australian & New Zealand Military Aircraft Serials & History http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzgordon.htm " KZ629 - Possibly K2759. With No.1 SFTS, Wigram April 1940. Blown off course inland ....... Moments later the aircraft hit trees on top of a ridge on Mount White and flipped backwards down the side of the steep slope, ending up hanging in the trees. LACs Walter Raphael, and Wilfred Everist suffered minor injuries....... The instruments, guns and engine were later recovered and the remains of the aircraft left where it crashed. The aircraft was recovered from the crash site ........ In April 2004 it was reported that the restoration of the aircraft had started. " DesertBlooms88

Thanks. Apparently there is only one known example of a Fairey Gordon left. The aircraft, NZ629, is in New Zealand undergoing restoration. Apart from that i can find nothing else on it. One piece of information i did find was the aircraft had to be recovered from a tree. DesertBlooms88

I have found another photo which had no id but this is i believe also a Fairey Gordon ? Library of Congress image http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2005008790/PP/ Many thanks DesertBlooms88

Thats excellent thanks. I see the Gordon has that very distinctive tail, which i should have noticed, ref the original ' Whats this plane ' query. Another note is the Avro Tutror's were known as Avro 621 Trainers . A very distinctive ' uncowled ' engine i read. Thankyou DesertBlooms88

Whilst looking over some 1930's photographs of 6 SQN Hawker Hardy biplanes at RAF Ramleh in Palestine, i noticed something in the background of one. Here is the Library of Congress link http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2010004267/PP/ Can anybody shine any light on these two aircraft here please which are just outside the hangar? Close-up Main photo of 6 SQN Hawker Hardy at Ramleh aerodrome. DesertBlooms88

Thanks for the responses here. I have managed to find a photo showing a Fairey Gordon in a similar position to this one.... with no skin. It is from a website featuring a model build of this aircraft and included is a photo of a crashed Fairey Gordon which has burnt out. Clearly visible at the rear fuselage area is that very distictive angled structure on the side of the fuselage between the fin and cockpit. http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/pentaxman/Burned-Gordon-Cross207-MRsm.jpg Original link here http://www.rchobbyhub.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=204&t=4121 Thankyou again for replies to this thread. DesertBlooms88

[h=1]Well, can anybody identify this aircraft? Library of Congress image. Royal Air Force biplane on its way to Cairo, Egypt from Palestine - circa 1936 ( note the soldier smoking a cigarette and reading his book, under the a/c nose section )[/h] View LARGE MB file via link http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2010003677/PP/ DesertBlooms88

Here is a link to a photo ( on Flickr ) which shows HMS Invincible in 1980 when she was brand new. Whats that ship behind her.... HMS Ark Royal R09 awaiting her fate. So thats two vessels that we have lost and now yet again another is going the same way. Perhaps we will have to get HMS Hermes back.... but where is the money going to come from? Once a ship is scrapped we all know you cant bring them back. There is one Royal Navy carrier of course with a great deal of historical interest that is still around.... current location http://maps.google.com/maps?q=36.05,-4.75&ll=35.986896,-4.471436&spn=1.240088,1.766052&t=h&z=9 DesertBlooms88

HMS Invincible was the candidate in my opinion for a carrier to be saved for a museum. There is no one high up enough in government who has any interest in the nations military heritage. When you consider government wastages and all other misappropriation of monies.... what an absolutely shocking and disgusting state of affairs. In addition surely some people in this country with money coming out of their ears would make something of it. Previous to this of course was the most famous carrier of them all which had no friends in high places.... HMS Ark Royal R09. Can you imagine seeing her today at Portsmouth next to HMS Warrior with Phantoms and Buccaneers on deck? I will just edit this post here to add a photo of R09 Imagine as above.... By U.S. Navy (U.S. DefenseImagery photo VIRIN: DN-SC-87-08415) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_Ark_Royal_USS_Nimitz_Norfolk2_1978.jpeg#filehistory Incidently, there is a photo group on Flickr for HMS Ark Royal R09 [h=1]HMS Ark Royal (R09) - the legendary carrier of the Royal Navy!!![/h] http://www.flickr.com/groups/1753925@N22/ DesertBlooms88

Another quite good photo from the internet showing a disassembled 3.7 in Howitzer on a mule in a similar position to that shown above - a pretty good image Cant quite make out what i am looking at etc but whatever it is its similar to my photo's. Only differance i can tell is that the latest photo shows the use of a special protective cover. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/vaga_land/16_dvina_front_troitsa_1919_brit_ar.jpg DesertBlooms88

Either the locals or maybe the Brits managed to do a salvage on them. The images are very detailed if you download them. A rare opportunity to have a good look over a WW1 British tank at the actual time. DesertBlooms88

Here are three excellent Library of Congress images showing the very tanks you mention.... allbeit post destruction after the battle in Palestine. They are LARGE MB photo's which can be downloaded via the links. Very detailed. http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2004005604/PP/ http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2004005603/PP/ DesertBlooms88

Another thread on HMVF ref 3.7 Howitzer http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?30776-3-7-quot-Howitzer&p=323486#post323486

I started a thread with some photo's of these guns before i found your own very interesting thread. Photo of a British Army Artillery position - North West Frontier - 1930's http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?35511-Photo-of-a-British-Army-Artillery-position-North-West-Frontier-1930-s I have also posted today some photo's showing this type of gun in transit with the 53rd Division in Palestine during World War One. Very interesting to see the 3.7 Mountain Howitzer up close in your images. DesertBlooms88

Thankyou for the responses to this thread. I have just noticed something on another photo from the Library of Congress which looks like dissasembled Mountain Howitzers being carried on horseback during the First World War in Palestine.. Photo World War One - British Army 53rd Division ( Is that dismantled Howitzer Artillery on the horses ? ) on the move in Palestine 1918 To see the original LARGE MB file click here http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2005000680/PP/ Cose-up This is a photo from Wikimedia Commons showing a 3.7 in Mountain Howitzer. By Photographer: Taylor (Lt) War Office official photographer [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons DesertBlooms88

Thankyopu for all of the replies to this thread. I have stumbled on another Library of Congress photo showing this grenade launcher arrangement on the Lee Enfield. British troops at an observation post ( note the grenade launcher attached to rifle ) on the Lubban-Nablus Road in Palestine during the late 1930 LARGE MB file can be accessed here http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2010004210/PP/ CLOSE UP Overall view ( grenade launcher now at left rear of position, leaning agianst the wall inside observation post ) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/mpc2010004209/PP/ DesertBlooms88