andyroo

Evidently representing the missile just out of the tube.

 

1. Did the round for Striker come in the same packaging as it did for Mark 5 Ferret and (was it?) FV438? The empty fibreglass tube inside the launcher would then be an interesting addition (and you wouldn't need actual rounds in the other launchers, just the siver-paper covered fibreglass tubes. You could then display the other rounds for Joe Public to admire and go, "Oooooh, rocket!").

 

2. I notice they are marked as PRAC rounds (pale blue) but marked with a gold band to indicate explosive (because of 4000m of rocket fuel presumably). I don't remember ever seeing the gold band on the PRAC round, but then again, it would only be visible AFTER it had left the tube heading downrange, so why should I? I cannot therefore pass comment.

 

However, I presume the round is actually inert (containing neither explosive warhead nor rocket fuel). That being the case, I'd posit that the markings are not accurately indicative of the current state of the round either way. This being the case, have you considered getting hold of the markings for a service round to improve the overall image of the scenario? I'd expect a service round to be painted Olive Drab with Gold band, but since I was never actually Swingfire-trained, this is all observation and pure guesswork on my part.

 

No offence intended.

I bought the swingfire via evilbay believe it or not. Cost me 170 or so pounds and six months of emails to get it though.

It should be in the glassfiber launch tube, but as I don't have any...........

Light blue is practice round, same as other projectiles. I have a number of 76mm rounds for the Saladin that are blue. A live swingfire is total sealed in the fiberglass launch tube and usually green (shade unknown but assume olive drab).

I have on idea what the yellow band signifies. The missile is stamped up inert in several places. I've had it all to bits (as you do) and is quite interesting how it all works. Considering its life in flight is no more than 28 seconds a lot of very presion made parts go into one of those missiles. Took weeks to figure out how it all works.

Only two types of swingfire were used:- ATGM HEAT K33or ATGM PRAC K19.

Although not correct, Joe public would not know that the Striker were a missile launce vehicle if they could not see the ends of the missiles. So even if I got some launch tubes (I could do with some to put in the stowage space inside though) would leave it as it is.

A mate of mine has been doing some editting

Thanks for asking about how the Striker is abn deuce.

The scrap man was impressed with the bits..............

She was up and running agine just after Christmas. She run's a lot better as you do not have to keep correcting the steering so much to the left. Also we have gone from 2mpg up to 4!!!! I can only guess but I suspect the final drive was past its best when I got the Striker origonaly. The final drive that I fitted came from Marcus Glenn. As it was a takeoff I stripped and rebuilt it replacing all the oil seals. I now have two more final drives as spare. Though I wont be changing one on the side of the road;)

I check the oil before every show now as its only a 5 minute job so hopefully I can detect early on if there are going to be any more problems.

The Striker has been to 4 shows this year and done almost 140 miles. I now have 3 out of 4 MV's working. Next year I hope to have all 4

Wow!! you have a project there, though not as hard as it first looks. My Saladin had trees growing out of it and a siezed engine but nothing like the work to do that you have.

All the best with it. Out of the 4 MVs that I have the Saladin was the most satisfing one to restore. You can see how I got on by going to http://www.livesteammodels.co.uk/dhmg/ and finding 'Andrew's Adventures - Saladin'.

Yes Lee quite correct, although it is officially designated as Tent, Cider, Large, Rural (Fun), GS, No.1 Mk 1

 

I think that is the incident that androo is referring to.

 

 

That I think was a couple ot years ago, all I remember was you falling to the floor talking jibberish telling us how the tent was to be asembled...... Somthing like that anyway as we were almost as p**sed as you.

I don't like this idea of paying for entertainment in the beer tents we'll sort our own out.

Ferret will be there from the Sunday onwards.

Thinking of GDSF does anyone know what this is? (I'll give the answer later tonight)

 

That beeee the Cider tent. Clive knows the cider tent inside and out.............

Thanks for the info, despratley need a silencer Bannisters seem to be the only company with one £375.00 + vat ouch! any ideas?

 

Thanks Paul

Thats cheep, you could always do what I did and have one made in stainless at 850 pounds plus VAT. At least it will last......

Typical question - "is this the Damlar Dingo?"

"No, this is Damler Ferret".

"Carn't be, it has two steering wheels"

"Where?"

"Well, you must have took one out to save space".

Sat in the back of the Saracen I quite often get "I used to drive these in Irland"

"This was based in Irland for for some time"

"and I used to drive them 6 wheeled things as well"

"You mean Saracen"

"Yes great big things they were"

"This is saracen, if you look at the side you'll see it has 6 wheels"

"This is a pig, I know a pig when I see one"

or I get

"is that a Damler 2 pounder?"

"No its a Ferret"

"Looks like a two pounder to me"

Sounds to me they've had to recover far too many Fox's

I paid a lot less and got the tripod and carry case.

3 photos (hopfully ) attched.

The brakes and steering will work even if there is no charge in the accumulators. However, at low speed, or continude quick use the hydrolic pump cannot provid sufficent flow to keep the system up to pressure. The accumulatores store energy for this reason which is why you should ensure they are at the correct air pressure.

The brake light switch should still work.

The brake light switch is operated via hydrolic pressure in the pipe system. Its no where near the brake peddle.

Open the left hand engine covers, both of them. Just in front of the left hand air cleaner, on the hull there should be a rubber boot with two wires coming out of it. The boot covers the switsh. These switches can fail. Richard Banister has some. First though before removing the switch from the pipe work, start the engine, get somone to press the brake peddle and use a multi meter to test the switch. Once removed, you will have to bleed that part of the hydrolic pipe. There should be a bleed nipple next to where the switch is for that purpos.

Update on the Striker breakdown.

We removed the drive sprocket and carrier and undid the dozen bolts that hold the hub drive plate to the hub. Quite surprised when the thick brown grinding past liquid started to ooze out 

This gave concern that the left hand side could be as bad so we decided that the left track had to come off and that final drive be checked as well.

After draining and removing the radiator you need to move the brake calliper. The manual says undo the two bolts and swing the calliper out of the way. Ok for the left hand side of the vehicle but not I might add for the right hand side. The gearbox happens to be in the way. Took us twenty minutes to decide that it would be best to undo the brake pipe and remove the calliper as the final drive comes out. (manual now in bin!!)

The method for removing the final drive unit is fairly simple, a blanking bolt is removed from above the unit (7/8 UNC) and a steel bar screwed in and supported at the other end. (That’s what the logs are doing ) The two filler plugs are then used to hold a plate either side of the drive unit with a length of chain over the steel bar. The final few bolts that hold the final drive to the hull are removed an after a good kicking to brake the seal it drops out and is supported by the steel bar. Putting back should be a piece of cake!!!!!!!!!!

Now with the final drive on three axle stands Carl is removing the steel locking wire with the comment that twelve of the twelve bolts are loose.

Now this is the inside of a rather ill final drive!!!!

Two of the three pinions. The needle rollers have welded them selves in.

Chris

 

The "correct" Ferret BV was cylindrical and about 2/3rds the size of the square 432 version.

 

 

Is this the BV your on about?

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I have this in my Saladin, it draws in excess of 75 amps for the first 20 seconds and drops to arround 45 untill boiled. First time I used it, stalled the engine :schocked:

Also costs you more in fule than it would to buy a coffee from a motorway....................... nahhh maybe not :-o

Stop cheating and looking on my web site.

 

Ahhh, must have been your website I stumbled across and saw the photos on only a few days ago. Thats why I reconized the cut down photo and knew where to find the one ones I'd saved to my hard drive. :evil: :evil:

I bought my Ferret from a company near Manchester, that same year I bought a Saracen from Whithems. Two years later I bought the Saladin from A F Budge. The CVR(T) Striker I also got from Whithems.

Happy Birthday Chris.

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Careful about mentioning the word 'Profit' and buying and selling... someone might accuse you of being a trader!

 

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I dont know what it is, but its one of these and I want one :evil: :evil:

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:-D :-D

I'm putting on my list:-

Operators sight for the Striker.

Shed big enough to house 4 MVs with space to work

And another project :-D

Dont forget the others:-

Gear change leg

Handbrake thumb (only from a Saracen)

Drive shaft ear syndrome

Wasp eye

Rag doll waist

Knock out head.

One of my favorates - gear change fore head

Soot face

and no doubt some others.

When the final drive packed up did you get thrown against your harness or did you have any warning it was failing ? I wondered if it came to a complete halt in a split second ? or did it drag to halt in a few seconds. Good thing if it had to happen that it was so close to home and you had all the tools to deal with it !!

 

I got a warning about 1 second before she locked up and stoped. Fortunatly I was slowing down for the roundabout and only doing arround 5 mile an hour. The rear slue to the left a bit though so it was a good job the car that was next to me had left some distance between us.

CVR(T)s have a lap belt which I alway use as it stops me moving about too much in the seat.

I always carry track tools in the Striker though most of my other tools were in the Saladin as there is much more stowage space on that. We were due to drive both to the Cromford steam rally on Sunday. Needless to say we only took 1.

Crikey Andy.... just glad it didn't go when I was driving it at Beltring, that's one phone call I wouldn't of liked to make :shake:

 

Don't forget to make a vid of the damage/repairs for HMVF-TV

 

If you ever have to ring somone up and tell them that there beloved MV has broken whail under your control, you start off the call with "Errrrr...... You've got a problem!!!" :-D

I'll have to call on Chris for a vid as I don't have a vidio camera. I'm hopeing to have a look on Sunday at the insides. It will be interesting to see why it's sezed almost solid. When I had a tracta joint go in the Saladin, there was a loud band and a grind but we were able to contine.

It happens from time to time :-(

Just a little public thankyou to Chris (Sirhc) and Carl for getting me out of the p**

Saturday evening 9 pm. I had a final drive lock up on my CVR(T) Striker and came to quite a quick halt just prior to a roundabout. Carl was able to drive my Saladin down with recovery chains and Chris was able to help with roadside track splitting. Towed her 1/4 mile home and went back for the track in the van. Took the three of us around two hours. The police made an appearance but weren?t too conserned as it made a change from dealing with the drunks in Derby.

Whats frustrating is I?d just put £102 worth of fuel in!! Not only that but I?ve just finished replacing two oil seals and the brake seals on my Saladin wheel station. There was me thinking that I?d 4 MV?s all working at the same time.

I'll post some photos when we take the final drive to bits

 

but yeah old softskin british vehicle especailly war time ones are getting rare and not everyone can transport such vehicles i mean i travel from yorkshire to the W&P every year this year was with my landy i know its not WW2 or a truck but if i was to drive it, it would cost £600 in fuel alone which i can only imagine how much it would cost for an old WW2 bedford or austin.

 

£600.00 :-o Thats more than two hundred more than it cost me to go down in my Ferret

- in addition to ordinary driving - you can do a reverse around corners and a 3-point turn all is well.

 

A 3 point turn is not a requirement for class H test.

Being able to reverse arround a corner is.