Tugger

We'll be in Big Monktons as usual - 1xJeep, 1xReo, 1xDefender, 1xCook Trailer + assorted green tentage and masses and masses of camo netting!

Are you taking part in the REO drive out on the Wed (or is it Thurs)?

If so would it be too cheeky to ask if you might have tag along space for a couple of chaps (namely myself and a partner in crime)

Otherwise, hopefully turning up on Monday (transport repairs permitting) worried about the weather:shake:

There was a tent alarm security gadget on Channel Five gadget show last night, may be of use.

I saw that too, looks like a neat idea and surprisingly loud for a battery powered unit. Did you note who made them or where to get hold of one?

Still think this Amphib L/r is something else,.......:-D..........(and yes, I'd certainly give it house room. )

 

Nice One.

Me too, the DVLA has it down as a Land Rover and currently taxed so hopefully it's out and about.

I quite like that sort of justice. Not long ago a thief in N Wales with a string of burglaries to his name and who the police were unable or unwilling to do anything about had a number done on his knees by a couple of local guys. He won't be doing any more thieving but plod took a dim view and they are doing several years at Her Majestys Pleasure.

I'm more in favour of shame and embarrasment as sumary punishment.

They should set up a set of stocks at W&P, imagine the shame as you're seen by thousands of members of the public during the day, imagine the s**t (literally) thrown by thousands of beery MV owners during the night.:rofl:

Not an MV show in it's self but it being on my doorstep, I was roped into a bit of marshalling, however I got a chance to wander round and spot a handfull of MV's that took part.

Anyone recognise anyone's vehicle?

Tugger, I was camped next to you last year at w+p, I think.

Hope I wasn't too unruly,

If you see me again by all means pop over for a beer

Apert from the obvious Jeep referrals to the Landy, the most common question I get is:

'Is it a Hummer?'

or if I'm parked up at work jo bloggs comes in to the shop/office

Q 'Wow, who's Hummer is that outside?'

I look at length through the window

A 'I don't know but the Landrover's mine'

Q 'What is it then?'

A 'It's still a Landrover':n00b:

Some from W&P over the years

Go on Own up

...and although not Landy, one of the many things I would give my right arm for, one of the Alvis Shadows

i have some pics of wmiks but they arent mine would they be ok to post?

If you took them, legally you can post them, but if you know the owner I imagine it would be courtious to let them know.

My waltywmikythingamajig,

The K foundation (the art critic dept/side of the KLF) had two Pigs in orange, they used them as part of their rubbishing of the Turner prize

It is incorrectly assumed (inc. the site that this pic came from that these were saracens)

Tugger Davis-expert in most things KLF having wasted most of the late 90's with an unnatural KLF/JAMMs/Disco2000/Timelords/K-Foundation fixation:embarrassed:

I asked this a while ago and this seemed one of the most plausible answers.

I believe the inverted V (/\) was first used in the Gulf war (1991) as it is an Arabic 8 and represents the number of countries in the coalition. After the Gulf it was adopted by the British/Americans and used in most war zones, such as Bosnia, Kosovo etc as a recognition symbol. I'm not sure why they turned it on its side in 2003 for Operation Telic (or Iraqi Freedom if you are an American) but they did.

 

Chris

 

I've since spoken to a couple of mates who have come back from 'Iraqistan' driving so marked wmiks and they can't offer any precise explanation:undecided:

And arguably the best looking.

(I remember building a 1:35 Airfix model as a boy and putting little 9v motors in the engines...top fun)

the girlie's in Polish uniforms was a rather welcome sight. :-D

 

 

Oh Yes. :-D

 

aaaaaaaaahhhhhh *remembers and sighs* :-D

I recently saw two hummvees on the 'bay' with a best offer sale (£27000.00 or thereabouts)

Hummvee fastback link

Hummvee softtop link

a couple of questions,

Was I the only one here to spot them? as there was no refrence to them here, most of you are pretty keen on spotting stuff and I was surprised, or and this leads me on to point two...

As I've seen no other refrences to hummvees are they frowned upon for some reason or is it that they don't get anyones juices flowing here ?(personally I think they look mighty fine) :oops:

Finally and completely hypothetically, does that sort of price sound ok? I hed previously spotted some on milweb at £45000.00 (or similar) allbeit with all the kit, that did seem a little steep, but I suppose anything's worth what someone's prepared to pay. :dunno:

I'd be intrested to hear your thoughts. :-)

There are some advantages of working on the river and as far as I'm concerned seeing stuff like this every now and then is one of them. :-D

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I don't know too much about it other than it's Sweedish military and it has been over about three times this year

(took the pics with a cheapo digi camera through a pair of binoculars in lieu of a telephoto lense 8-))

I can't believe there's not been a single mention of our lord and saviour Cliff Rich... sorry, Jimmy Hendrix

Our Jimmy who art in Heaven

Hendrix be thy name...,

for me it could be 'Cross Town Traffic', 'All Along the Watchtower', 'Ezy Rider' or 'Hey Joe'... or all of the above, oh the list goes on and on...

The more I look at them the more of a bargain they seem.

Can anyone offer any suggestions on buying an MJ or what I should look out for?

If I were to go to Withams how would one go about road registering one?

Or even does anyone on here have one they would like to go to a good home?

Being about 7.5 tonnes I understand they fall within the C1 catagory meaning they can be driven on the old 'full' driving license, is this so? and if so how does the more modern Leyland Daf 45 compare in that respect?

(personally I prefer the look of the MJ and having seen the selection Withams took to W&P, I've persuaded the wife they'd make a great camper)

With many thanks for the answers to all these questions and more...no doubt :-D

Absolutely, predicted milage will no doubt be the deal maker/breaker, I hoped Marks predicted figures could be transposed into my known ones to help him reach a decision.

This may or may not help, but a bit of info anyway...

I used to run a Cherokee Jeep on LPG and the figures I had at the time were:

Cost of instillation and second hand kit...£1500.00

LPG around 45ppl (about half price of U/L)

MPG: U/L around 21mpg, LPG around 14mpg

With various lengthy and probably over complicated mathmatics I worked out I was saving about £5.00 every 100 miles and it would take me about two to two and a half years to recoup the initial expendature doing about 13000 miles a year.

That should give you some idea of whether it will be financially viable or not.

The only aggro I had was range, I had an 80ltr tank fitted that will fill to 80% (60ltr or so) and would invariably have to fill up every 200 miles.

Proliferation of LPG filling stations is fairly good on the whole however since the vast majority of filling stations have only one (allbeit double) pump, if it's out of order it's onwards with fingers crossed or switch back to petrol.

As Tony said, crossing the channel means outside on the ferry only and the price is only held low due to reduced duty, however there are no current plans as far as I know that this will change as current usage is relatively low and the increase in revenue will be insignificant in contrast to the loss of 'green' credibilty if they brought duty into line with U/L.

I suppose if one were to get really picky, Rememberance days are as the name suggests to remember those who gave their lives fighting for freedom, initally WWI. But as those who remember the fallen pass on, it would cease to be a 'remberance' day. However there should be no reason for the up coming generations not to stop and think of what those soldiers did for us.

It seems to me that there would be no reason not (sorry typo) to carry on as present, I'm sure the current serving men and women will see to that.

Perhaps not as a specific rememberance but of a more general commemerance of all who have died fighting for the country.

Have a read of this if you get a chance

Turn to page 16/17 (centre spread) on the on-line edition of Boat News (PDF)

http://editions.pagesuite.co.uk//PageSuite3.aspx?page=1&scale=100&height=700&width=1000&editionid=22745&filekey=&path=_PSEDitions/BoatNews/Boat%20News/August%202007/

The problem was/is, is that they had such a short life expectancy (as I dare say a lot of military kit of the time) that they were very lightly constructed using cold moulded construction which although sturdy, has never really lent it's self to longevity and now 60 years later, many have simply rotted beyond any state of repair.

The house boat examples have had the benefit of some maintenance to keep them water tight but apart from the hull nothing else of the original boat remains.

The cost of doing a restoration to one of these (if you could get the owner to move out ) would be monumental. MTB102 was fortunate in the fact that it was used in 'Where Eagles Dare' (or has landed?) and part of the deal was to pay for it's (now first ) restoration. It's second was minor and still cost £20 000.

102 was apparently the first MTB initially bought as a prototype from Vosper with a single tube coming out of the bow, soon changed to twin tubes with a 10 deg. offset, it was quickly pressed into action and many more were ordered.

The MGB 81 had an article in one of the motor boat magazines and it's restoration was more along the lines of telephone numbers with MAN eventually donating 3 diesels to power it. (it reaches something close to it's original Merlin powered top speed now)

The MGB resides on the Beulieu and as said before MTB 102 in Lowestoft harbour and takes part in quite a few comemeratory events (little ships gatherings etc)

If I get a chance to get some snaps of the ones on the Deben I'll post them.

Meanwhile Wikipedia has some good articles on them just enter motor Gun Boat or Motor Torpedo Boat.

finally, there is one story of a new lad going out on his first run on an MTB and as they opened up the throttles he noticed the engine hatches were open, thinking it would be a good job to A, keep the water out and B, stop anyone falling in, he decided to close them. It took all of about 10 seconds before all three engines died from air starvation although not before sucking in every loose rag lying in the engine room.

Crossed wires, the one you are talking about in West Sussex may well be 682, I don't know it myself, I was refering to another one based in Lowestoft that is in WWII condition (other than the fact it now runs diesels with a much reduced top speed from 43kts down to 27kts). there is also a MGB (MGB 81) running in the area of similar vintage. as for restoration projects some one is working on the rebuild of an RAF crash tender up the Deben in Suffolk where there is also another MTB house boat conversion, of which I believe there are several around the East coast, as this was where they tended to be based (Lowestoft, Harwich, Ramsgate, London).

Sorry not boring you now am I? ;-) :-)

... Its the last surviving MTB and was engaged with the german navy in the D-day operations.

Do you mean the last one involved in D-day operations? because there are certainly other MTB's and MGB's in running order, MTB102 is certainly running and lives on Oulton broad, Lowestoft. (she apparently operated during D-day too)

Fantastic craft, I'd have on if my lottery numbers rolled in ;-)

Sounds like a minefield :-(

 

Does anyone know who makes the copies?

 

I might go down the route of just getting some old bits of pipe and making the basic shape and then covering them with the propper covers.

 

I've been reliably informed that the poles used for roadside signs are the right size externally and as near as dammit internally too, cut to length and a base welded in. Easily found at a scrap yard apparently as they're replacing many with the new style crumple sign posts.