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On 11/6/2019 at 4:44 PM, Tony B said:

I have a 51 with and a 54 without. To be honest on the milage your likley to do, or the times you may use 4 wheel drive. Are they worth the cost?

Hi Tony, I am not looking to fit these as a fuel saving device, just most to reduce some of the wear.

Unlike some I drive my vehicles all year round and so would like to keep the 4wd  option.

Hello I'm looking for some free wheel hubs for a 44 Dodge WC 51

Any tips please gents

4 minutes ago, Enigma said:

I would avoid pressure wash to get salt out. probably best to let it soak in fresh water and rinsing.

Pressure wash could push salt water deeper or am I mistaken?

Hopefully the Jeep and Dodge didn't suffer too much from its swim.

Of course you are correct, but i am not aware of many places one could soak a dodge in fresh water. my point re the pressure washer is that there are many in France and it really depends how close the lance is held to the vehicle......common sense should be used.

I still cannot understand why people do take their pride and joy on the beaches, bet they don't take them out in the winter when there is salt on the road.Advice buy or search "tide timetable" save a lot of tears.

On 1/2/2019 at 7:19 PM, johnwardle said:

Who have you contacted? The verification officer of the MVT holds the position voluntarily,  as do all MVT officials and may not be available to reply to you immediately.

It is my understanding there are a few problems/delays with the mvt verification service at the office end. Also regardless of it being a voluntary post its only good manners to return calls, emails etc.That as I am informed is also not happening. Saying that when I required a verification the service, was very swift,so my personal thoughts are very good service, but this didn't appear to be the case 12 months later when I suggested a friend used their service.

Reading this is better than Eastenders........

On 11/2/2018 at 7:23 PM, eggsc8 said:

We did get it off the trailer but we just lifted it on its own jacks it had to go really high and nearly killed us, When we put it back on the trailer we used a fork lift truck to hoist it up . Can you lift it high enough on blocks to operate the guns without hitting the mudguards, Paul.

 

Told you !!!!!! hence my post.

8 hours ago, ferretfixer said:

Hi Gas, Yes I understand your comments on the above. However, I feel I have to add. After Military Service, I worked in the UK Defence Manufacturing Sector for 12 years. & I can tell you for a FACT. That the MOD & Other 'Government Agencies', DO get ripped off by products sold to them!.....

As I stated previously, SOME products cost Pennies to MANUFACTURE. But.....The price they are sold on for is Far wide of the mark of a 'Fair' Profit!.....My Ex Boss, when questioned by Me, on 'How do you come up with a price that you 'Retail' then R**'?  He replied: ' You get your cost of materials & actual manufacturing costs together. Add 20 Per cent & Double the figure'!......I can cite MANY examples of refurb mark up's that also gained a large 'Profit' in a similar way. The profit bearing no resemblance to a Fair mark up!.....

Again, in the VAST amount of these attachments made, that I would like. The original manufacturing costs would be low. Considering they were churned out in their thousands. I have seen similar (But not the same products) sold at present in Germany in 2 Kilo Batches. & they cost no where near what these are up for! 

I feel you are absolutely right though, in your comment regarding. 'If you want it, one has to pay for it'!.....🙄

I may line of work, I also see " similar but not the same" products. These are normally cheaper too, but they are not the same and that why they are cheaper.....lol.

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Out of interest has the MVT organiser read the same paperwork ? if he has does he not understand what is written ?

If i he knows something other than that for a fact, why is it not being made public to all members.

In in fact they or he does know something are they keeping it to their selves so IF it goes belly up they can gloat and say "you should have travelled with the largest MV group in the world"

On 8/27/2018 at 6:36 AM, Ron said:

Yes I agree about the countries exempted and although I'm not going with the MVT tour, I have been speaking to the MVT organizer  about it. 

It's the gobbledygook that's confusing. For instance, it states that all licences that haven't been used within 24 months are automatically deleted from their files, so if you think you have one already. ...You probably haven't?

. It also states that the licence should be presented to a UK Border Force (If requested). How do they know you are not moving on to Belgium or Holland etc. once you leave these shore?

It makes me think (Like the MVT)........Best get one anyway.   

Ron, its not only the countries, its the VEHICLES that are exempt due to age.

The wording on page 11 para 3 is QUITE CLEAR  vehicles over 50 years old  and travelling to the mentioned countries DO NOT NEED an OGEL. That's what it says. 

On 8/27/2018 at 7:10 AM, ferretfixer said:

When you add in 22 Euros for postage. That then makes them 5.10 Euros each.

And at a Total of Euros 49 for ten, it's not so cheap!......I would say they were worth a Euro each, when you consider that originally. They were made in their thousands. They would have cost Pennies to manufacture. It is the cost of postage that kills it!  As I only need four or five at most, it becomes expensive!  

As you only require 4/5 I take your point, regardless looking at them,  I doubt they ever sold for pennies even to the Army. I suppose its one of those things, if you want it then one has to pay for it.

I've had plenty of people tell me what they thought things were worth in the past, I'm not saying you are wrong but most people are wide of the mark with their estimation of costings......just my thoughts.

Have I missed something here 29 Euro for 10 ? that's only  2.90 Euro each. That seems cheap enough considering what they are. Out of interest what do think they are worth ?

John Wardle, secretary of MVT, said "One of the traders was selling Nazi memorabilia. There's nothing illegal about selling Nazi memorabilia.

"There were no Nazis at the event - there were people dressed in German uniforms but they weren't Nazis."

Maybe this was enough to upset the lady in question, I personally don't mind . But perhaps selling Nazi instead of German memorabilia should not be allowed. We are for ever being told "not ALL German soldiers were Nazi's"

However I doubt this will go away.....lets see next year.

I believe its quite clear there is already an exemption in place that covers our vehicles going to France next year.

PAGE 11 PARA 3, its VERY CLEAR

I think the MVT are asking people to get an OGEL because......well just because !!!!

I have asked the MVT why they believe an OGEL is now needed and they cannot give a sensible answer as to why.

Because we are coming out of the EU things may change of course BUT at this stage NO ONE knows how they will change.

Should we all get an MOT, Insurance GREEN card enough petrol in case the French wont sell us any,

I understand that the MVT have their own tour planned BUT IF THERE ARE NEW CONCRETE RULES THEN THEY SHOULD PASS THEM ON TO ALL PAID UP MEMBERS, not just the elite few.......

On 8/8/2018 at 1:10 PM, Tony B said:

None from me. I like Portsmouth it's a day in paradise with so much to see and do.  If you are visitng take advantage of the park & ride. Straight off the M27 near the harbour,  into a large open car park, so no problem parking Dodges, parking fee includes bus into Portsmouth town centre.

I didnt mean you Tony I was refering to the museum.....

I'm sure there is some motive behind this.

On 7/31/2018 at 12:55 PM, .303fan said:

"I've never understood why people moan about the cost of getting to the show, no one is forced to attend, its your choice."

not went for 3 years now, my dad the 101fc ambulance driver died last May...  the extra charge did not help to get more toilets, and the value for money seemed to drop so why pay to get in that show?  

Friends that went this year ended it short and will not go back again. Time for other shows, keeping my eye on the one in Twente NL on how it develops and going for veterans days. 

As i said no one forces you to go. if you don't like it stay away,it will save you £1500 to spend elsewhere.

17 hours ago, Enigma said:

About mixing wrong and right vehicles.

I agree in principle but don't forget most of these mixes occur when friends camp together.

At Folkestone it was supposed to be WW2 and post war seperated. But how would that work if 1 friend has a WW2 Jeep and another a landrover? So would our little group have to break up?

And yes, booking and paying is the important thing, not what you bring.

I was quite surprised last year to see caravans and vehicles mixed but it seemed to not be a problem.

 

At Folkestone my friend had to cover his "claasic' vehicle because he was in the Ww2 field. When entering he was told to park anywhere. A official said only "mint and concourse condition" vehicles were allowed as classics and his was just a "old car", (Ok, it was a 1984 renault 5.) what a joker he was...guess he was a little man with a bit of power who just wanted to be OBEYED..

So we bought expensive  materials to cover up but the big blue German truck was left as is even though Little %$#$@ said he'd do something about that one too. And maaaany more vehicles too.

Why didn't you just go up to the UN guys for a talk?

Still I do get your point.

I'm not sure that I agree about the booking and paying and not what you bring.

I was under the impression it was a military vehicle sort of show, not a white van show ??

17 hours ago, .303fan said:

£1500 in costs.. One 109 petrol with sankey from north lincs, one 101fc ambulance from near amsterdam and a support car with trailer. Boat costs and fuel cost a lot, camping cost extra as there were 6 adults. Food costs not included.

I've never understood why people moan about the cost of getting to the show, no one is forced to attend, its your choice.

36 minutes ago, paul connor said:

I thought I would add a concluding summary to my previous posts.

 

Good Points:

Vehicles/Displays. Turn out was pretty good, there were loads of new vehicles large and small I had never seen. Also a good supply of armour being displayed. Living history was good, with some nice details. Home Front village is expanding and I really do love it there. Great effort to all concerned. I enjoyed that the best for sure.

Staff. Well after my initial run in with Mr Rude, the booking-in official, the rest seemed very helpful. I guess that one guy, who upset others, needs addressing and maybe asked to not attend in future if he has such a poor attitude. Booking in should be greeting exhibitors, as well as handing them all the programme and welcome pack, something I also did not get. Overall good, except an individual.

Public. I think other than the Saturday there was a significant drop in numbers, maybe this was the weather or the lack of a full weekend for their attendance. Saturday was clearly busier, which was good and the arena was watched by a huge crowd.

Music/Beer tents. Victory was very low in attendance the nights I walked up there, which was quite strange as it is usually very busy. Spitfire tent was quite good with a new stage, which is a nice touch. The music wasn't to my liking, but I wasn't there to watch bands and being into Metal I was fully aware I would not get Motörhead or Iron Maiden! But the addition of stage is good and the atmosphere there the Saturday night was good and seemed popular.

Toilets. We booked our own, so I cannot really comment on that. But I didn't notice many around. So for me, showers and toilets were excellent.

 

Gripes:

Mr Rude. See above and previous posts.

Bins. Where were they? Black bags left in piles all through the living history areas and stalls. This looked awful and could easily be resolved. There was a decline in the  metal drums and their placement and number was insufficient. This caused people to create small piles of rubbish in areas. Not very nice, especially with the temperature.

Nazi Fanatics. While I do not have an issue with displays personally, I did this year with a few things I saw. Firstly was Nazi tattoos. A man with a full Himler sleeve piece on his arm, somewhat concerning! more so with the Swastika on the other upper arm. Another was noticed with clear Swastikas on both arms and a Tottenkopf deaths head on his hands. While freedom of expression is something that we all support, the subjective connotations this presented was somewhat shocking, moreover when wearing uniform to support it! But, that is not to be controlled by show staff I guess, just rather sinister to witness, especially with a German fiancee.  In the back field there was one man by himself in a civilian tent with Swastika bunting and a huge Swastika flag in the doorway of his tent. I have no idea what that was for or why? But it is unnecessary and as it has no context is offensive to many.

Caravans. It was disappointing to see so many displays ruined by civilian tents, caravans, gazebos and tarpaulins, losing the 'green' feel of the show. I was very surprised so many "UN" vehicles were paraded as having history and allowed in the displays. A 2004 Land Rover discovery is not UN, and the two Citroen Berlingo vans with UN on the sides made me realise that booking in do not care what rubbish people display as long as they have paid. These vehicles and civilian displays need to be all together, not mixed with people who have made such a valid and creditable effort.

Stalls. Bit lower than normal in numbers. A shame as the two stalls I actually went there for have boycotted the show, which is a shame - mail order it is then. I was a little confused with stalls selling such items as crystal skulls and healing crystals and shoe laces? I guess it will become a local market before long with a Del Boy and a suitcase selling fax machines and wind up porcelain cats that play 'how much is that doggy in the window'?

 

 8/10.  Overall a good show, but I fear the numbers were a touch lower. Great to see some old friends whom I have not seen in a few years, and great social aspect to it all

More bins,  clear the civilian rubbish away from displays and keep it green! That's what people come to see, and monitor the area to ensure, like it was before, rules are adhered to with displays.

 

Paul

 

 

This year I took my motorhome, as I have for the last ten years, I make no effort to cover up a large piece of white plastic, that to be honest make W&P much more enjoyable,Nice toilet Nice shower,Ice in the freezer  for G&T and plenty of cold beers.

However I park in which ever field I'm instructed to, this year it was America's. I would NEVER consider trying to hide it in say MONKTONS ,BUT THEN THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SMALL HOME FROM HOME....is there. ?

On 7/24/2018 at 10:34 PM, .303fan said:

That is why we took our own food and cooker. The engel fridge used batteries but chaging those was a problem. A gen set shall be build with a 2.2 BMC diesel as base with a 2a land rover main box to drive two generators giving a few kva. 

My wife and myself can't accept the toilet fee put on price of entry while she cannot make the trip by wheelchair and a bucket got used instead why pay for something you don't use?

 Toilets will always be a issue,  the value for money feeling plays as we paid £1500 to get to the show with a 101fc and 109  with Sankey next to a crew support car. My wife is pissed on the new organiser as he called us allsorts to get in the show cheap. We shall see, we might just say no to the W&PR for ever. I do like smaller steam shows to show the vehicles and have fun. 

 

Where do you live to spend £1500 getting there.

On 7/12/2018 at 6:09 AM, ferretfixer said:

It will be sad if it does, But you may very well be right!   Finding another venue that is large enough to host a show of this size, Still located down south will be difficult! Shame about losing Folkstone, I LOVED that venue!

I know some didn't, but Human nature being what it is, you will never satisfy everyone. On every single thing connected with a show of this magnitude!..

The venue is not a problem and to be honest it does not have to be in KENT. But I must agree the Racecourse was great for a lot of people.

The problem is having an owner who cares what people think.......i will leave it at that.

4 hours ago, ferretfixer said:

Just received a website message from W&PR. You can now buy at Extra cost, VIP tickets for Toilets!!!!  Does this mean that they are not going to supply the extra toilets & excellent showers as 'The Norm' this year?  Or are we are faced yet AGAIN, with the 'opportunity' to have no choice but put our hands in our pockets?....

cant help thinking this whole show is going to end in tears,,,,,,,,

Yes if its never been registered you will need a NOVA number, the DVLA will check this for sure.

On 6/12/2018 at 5:42 PM, Richard Farrant said:

It is on the online booking form that you can bring other military vehicles for free, just pay for the first one, so if you load a transporter up or you shuttle your MV's to Beltring you can bring as many as you like, it is any extra drivers who would have to pay.

See this quote from the website:

Additional Military Vehicles
We only charge for the first military vehicle you enter, you can bring the rest of your collection for FREE .

Yes I agree and understand,I was just pointing out that it was not how it read on an earlier post that MAY have been edited.